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Subs aren't a charity. You guys look over their 2023 list and tell me what should have been aggressively bid on.
That's kind of horseshit isn't it. The Talos Principle 2 and Plucky Squire would be high value releases to bid on and they can get their deal that affects their stock. Most of the hype built for a game are usually from these deals anyway so the fact that they don't have it makes their games more obscure. The problem is that they are not putting in high enough bids anymore (and not just at DD) because who would have thought they'd rely less on indies once they had their own big first party games. Not some indie developers it seems:
I doubt they want to put either of these on subs. They will likely be breakout hits.
Writing is on the wall and not just for indies.
With more first party games in the pipeline for MS, third party deals on gamepass probably won't be as lucrative.
Third parties who signed deals with MS congratulations, you've helped MS train the xbox user base not to buy games.
So you've helped crater your sales on xbox and now won't get a massive handout by MS.
What you're saying doesn't make sense though. You're saying they don't have anything worth aggressively bidding on and then when presented with games that could be aggressively bidded on you say they're worth too much. They would put anything on a sub if the price is right those are two releases that could have very agressive bids. Massive deals worth a lot.
The topic is not all black and white. The headline also mentions they aren't getting good offers, but then text I just quoted shows they did get big offers and turned them down. It requires a tiny shred of nuance to understand. Pretty simple stuff. They want to gamble on high sales for those two games since those are their two biggest games.
GAF told me that if developers accepted the deals then it obviously meant they were good enough. Looking forward to a bright subscription future that totally doesn't undervalue gaming as a whole.
It's also killing their perception for when they do go to playstation.Writing is on the wall and not just for indies.
With more first party games in the pipeline for MS, third party deals on gamepass probably won't be as lucrative.
Third parties who signed deals with MS congratulations, you've helped MS train the xbox user base not to buy games.
So you've helped crater your sales on xbox and now won't get a massive handout by MS.
So you've helped crater your sales on xbox and now won't get a massive handout by MS.
All subscriptions kinda do that, but MS certainly had the bigger hand in starting the trend and "forcing" others to adopt it to some extend to compete. Loss leading is just a great strategy, like organizing a mass suicide but planning to pull out at the last minute.
But NOTHING I would have spent money on. Cult of the Lamb my daughter played for a while until her friends moved on to something else. Even she wasn't begging me to buy that game.
Well, that also depends on the game and the consumer's preference. For example, I bought the medium once it came to PS5 (got the physical version at around $30), a title which was given to both Xbox and PC gamers for free through Game Pass day 1. And this is just one example, I've purchased probably over two dozens GP games, because I like to support the devs and also own these titles instead of renting them, and preferably in physical format.
Well I think a lot more playstation gamers would buy the games if they were closer to the price of a month of gamepass when they come to playstation.
Yeah, I guess that's true. An almost one year old game which was also on GP being ported to a different platform and then the publisher offers it at launch price.. that's a tough sell indeed, even for me. But if it's something I'm interested in I'll add it to wishlist and grab it later down the road when it receives a decent discount (30-40%).
It's really not that concerning. Devolver is just having a slow period due to delays and multiple uninteresting titles.
Why?? Devolver at least is a top tier publisher for indies. The indie gaming industry will suffer if these two pubs go under..
Not that surprising that they’re down, but MS need GP to be strongly trending up for a while yet, don’t they?You mean sales and subscriptions are down post covid highs of 2021?
Why the hostility to such a good publisher?
Now I’m not sure if you do have these other platforms to play these same games and if you do, do you play those games on gamepass and just purchase on PlayStation? Is that what’s going on?
it's a good deal in the interim period where stuff is being figured out. like that brief time when Netflix had EVERYTHING and was charging a pittance. Now they rely mostly on their own homegrown garbage only and raise prices constantly, and you need to sub to 3 other shitty services to get access to everything and it comes out to basically the same price as cable except it's all disorganized and crappy.
I try them on GP PC, if I like them I buy them on PS5 or Switch preferably on disc/cart.
