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[Zoe]

Hey wait a sec, that's me you're making comments about.

Are my legs sticks?
Are my legs sticks considering I'm tall?
Are my legs sticks compared to your ideal?
All of the above?
My legs are bigger than the dis-proportioned guys I see that bench twice what I can.

Sorry, you brought out the tiger in me. Yeah, I don't squat 3 plates, but I do pretty good for my height and weight.
And it was leg day today, so "stick" comments are demotivating (not really).

Go eat a fucking flax muffin

IMO, your legs are disproportionate to your top half. I would have expected meatier legs just from looking at your top.

 

[Shaneus]

Ah, it was you, spiders? What were your stats again (roughly)?

 

[AceBandage]

I'm blessed with being born with giant thighs and doing a lot of long nature walks when I was a kid, so my legs are pretty beefy.
I just need to work on my noodle arms now.

 

[ipukespiders]

IMO, your legs are disproportionate to your top half. I would have expected meatier legs just from looking at your top.

That's different than saying stick legs. I can only work with what I've been given. I've learned to love working legs, and I hit them as hard as I can.

Ah, it was you, spiders? What were your stats again (roughly)?

I like long walks on the beach, shiny objects, and sausages.

I hit 145-150 depending on water retention. 6ft 2 with long legs, and long arms.
Pants are 30" waist (and depending on the brand, loose at that) and 34" inseam.

I was 189 in January, with a 34" waist and my pants were getting to the point that I was thinking, shit, I'm gonna have to move to a 36".

I'm blessed with being born with giant thighs and doing a lot of long nature walks when I was a kid, so my legs are pretty beefy.
I just need to work on my noodle arms now.

Isn't there a bicep to calf proportion calculator? I need one of those tailors tapes.

 

[kikanny]

If one is just starting a ketogenic diet for the first time, how long should it take to get into ketosis? And is under 30 gm of carbs a good limit?

 

[Akim]

Am I doing this low carb thing right?

2 Hamburger Pattys with 1 slice of cheese and 2 pieces of bacon in between. 2 pieces of bacon and a fried egg on top.

 

[ipukespiders]

Am I doing this low carb thing right?

Only if you lick the plate.

 

[MThanded]

Here has been my routine for the last few weeks

1. Low carb diet(less than 50 grams a day). No processed carbohydrates. Focused on high protein, fiber full vegetables and nonfat yogurt. I try to stay away from high fat foods too.
2. I workout 5 times a week. 3 of those times I do HIIT(High intensity interval training) and the others I do 30 minutes of max incline high resistance cardio.
3. I lift 5 times a week with 2 different daily plans alternating. 12 reps x 3 sets for each exercise.

I just started going to 5 smaller meals instead of 3 to help with metabolism. Also trying out fasted before breakfast cardio(my breakfast is always a protein shake that consists of a serving of fruit, half a cup of nonfat yogurt and protein powder)

Results have been pretty boss. Its not for everyone though it's a lot of work but it works.

 

[Akim]

I just started going to 5 smaller meals instead of 3 to help with metabolism.

there is no science to this, just sayin

 

[Cosmic Bus]

Going to try giving up exercise for a week or so to see if I can even stick to simply eating low carb without my willpower faltering. If so, I'll try to ease back into a routine; otherwise... I dunno. Up until now, the combination of both has only managed to stick for 2-3 weeks at a time before I give in to the intense cravings and fall totally off the wagon for a while, leading to serious yo-yo weight loss/gain. Maybe this just isn't for me.

 

[ipukespiders]

I try to stay away from high fat foods too.

Tell me why.
(it's a trap)

 

[TheExodu5]

there is no science to this, just sayin

Wouldn't it result in smaller insulin spikes, and therefore less fat storage?

 

[MThanded]

Tell me why.
(it's a trap)

Why do I need to eat high fat foods

Here is what my eating regimen consists of

-Chicken breast
-Lean steak
-Brocolli
-string beans
-mustard greens
-Kale
-collards
-Tofu
-protein powder
-non-fat yogurt
-frozen fruit for protein shake
-almonds for a snack

I'm content with this. I also know its more important to know where you get your fats from and less about the amount. A lot of good fat foods out there.

there is no science to this, just sayin

It helps prevent overeating and lessens insulin spikes. That's good enough for me.

 

[MThanded]

Here is the site of a buddy of mine. http://www.jimgetsslim.com/?page_id=29

I am doing a very similar routine and I would say the results are pretty in line with it. Amazing stuff he went from this

to this in 52 weeks.

I am seeing amazing results on a very similar plan.

 

[Domino Theory]

Wouldn't it result in smaller insulin spikes, and therefore less fat storage?

3 meals > 5-6 meals for body recomposition, fat loss and controlled blood sugar.

If you think about it, it's common sense, really. By having 5-6 meals throughout the day, you're having a shorter period of time between meals which means your insulin levels are staying up for longer periods of time compared to < or = to 3 meals where you have HOURS of downtime in between where your blood sugar isn't high and insulin isn't active.

I have 1 meal a day twice a week, 2 meals w/ a snack here and there the other five days.

 

[MThanded]

3 meals > 5-6 meals for body recomposition, fat loss and controlled blood sugar.

If you think about it, it's common sense, really. By having 5-6 meals throughout the day, you're having a shorter period of time between meals which means your insulin levels are staying up for longer periods of time compared to < or = to 3 meals where you have HOURS of downtime in between where your blood sugar isn't high and insulin isn't active.

I have 1 meal a day twice a week, 2 meals w/ a snack here and there the other five days.

Everyone I know personally who has lost or is working on definition eats 5-6 meals a day. Interesting. Could just be a coincidence but they all say before switching the meals up it was not working as well. To each their own I guess.

Heres another one of my buddies

http://www.unbiasedhealth.com/p/about-dr-o.html

 

[TheExodu5]

If you think about it, it's common sense, really. By having 5-6 meals throughout the day, you're having a shorter period of time between meals which means your insulin levels are staying up for longer periods of time compared to < or = to 3 meals where you have HOURS of downtime in between where your blood sugar isn't high and insulin isn't active.

But by eating small meals, your insulin doesn't spike as much? I wouldn't say anything is particularly common sense in this case.

 

[MThanded]

I lost 30 pounds last summer essentially doing paleo diet and 5 times a week workouts. No 5 meal stuff. I'm willing to try it out for a while. Not saying its the end all be all but a lot of people I know have had increased success when they switch to 5 meals.

 

[TheExodu5]

I lost 30 pounds last summer essentially doing paleo diet and 5 times a week workouts. No 5 meal stuff. I'm willing to try it out for a while. Not saying its the end all be all but a lot of people I know have had increased success when they switch to 5 meals.

I'm snacking in between meals now...I think it's helping a lot just because I tend to not overeat nearly as much during my main meals.

My snacks still tend to be a bit sugar heavy though...afternoon snack is almonds + a few small squares of 85% dark chocolate. Evening snack is a bowl of raspberries. I need healthy veggies that I can easily munch on raw...

 

[BertramCooper]

The whole 5-6 meals a day thing worked really well for me at first, when I was still trying to get my constant cravings in check.

But once my body adjusted and I was no longer constantly craving food, I went back to 2-3 meals a day.

 

[MThanded]

I'm snacking in between meals now...I think it's helping a lot just because I tend to not overeat nearly as much during my main meals.

My snacks still tend to be a bit sugar heavy though...afternoon snack is almonds + a few small squares of 85% dark chocolate. Evening snack is a bowl of raspberries. I need healthy veggies that I can easily munch on raw...

I keep a tub of steamed broccoli in the fridge usually. I go through a costco sized bag of broccoli a week.

 

[elrechazado]

Am I doing this low carb thing right?

2 Hamburger Pattys with 1 slice of cheese and 2 pieces of bacon in between. 2 pieces of bacon and a fried egg on top.

needs more butter on top

 

[Shaneus]

If one is just starting a ketogenic diet for the first time, how long should it take to get into ketosis? And is under 30 gm of carbs a good limit?

Give it 4-5 days of <20g. I think 30 might be okay, but just to be safe, shoot for 20. You'll feel lethargic and pretty out of it for a week or two, but if you supplement with fish oil and multivitamins it should negate some of that. After that period, you'll actually feel *more* energetic, despite having minimal carbs. Yay keto!

So guys, I think I'm at a point where I should start actively exercising (as opposed to my brisk lunchtime walks). Where should I start? I'm thinking the basics... doorway pushups (I occasionally do these anyway, great for opening your chest out and pushing shoulders back), crunches/situps and bicep curls. Anything else that can be done around the home?

 

[AceBandage]

I think the difference between lots of small meals and fewer large meals would be pretty minimal either way.
Your body is still consuming roughly the same energy in both cases, just in different intervals.
The biggest deciding factor here would probably be activity. If you are at an inactive job or don't get regular exercise, lots of smaller meals would probably be bad, since you're just consuming energy when you don't need it.

Give it 4-5 days of <20g. I think 30 might be okay, but just to be safe, shoot for 20. You'll feel lethargic and pretty out of it for a week or two, but if you supplement with fish oil and multivitamins it should negate some of that. After that period, you'll actually feel *more* energetic, despite having minimal carbs. Yay keto!

So guys, I think I'm at a point where I should start actively exercising (as opposed to my brisk lunchtime walks). Where should I start? I'm thinking the basics... doorway pushups (I occasionally do these anyway, great for opening your chest out and pushing shoulders back), crunches/situps and bicep curls. Anything else that can be done around the home?

You can get a chin up bar pretty cheap. Kettle Balls are also good since they allow for a pretty large range of cardio.

 

[elrechazado]

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/meal-timing/#more-22211

found this interesting on multiple meals. from this and dozens of other things I've read, the verdict seems to be "there is no real evidence that this does anything" beyond psychology.

 

[Shaneus]

You can get a chin up bar pretty cheap. Kettle Balls are also good since they allow for a pretty large range of cardio.

I have one of those chin up bars but my arms are weaksauce. I'll start using it once I get some upper body strength happening, though.

 

[MThanded]

To each their own. All the people I know who have switched meals during their plans have had increased success.

 

[AceBandage]

I have one of those chin up bars but my arms are weaksauce. I'll start using it once I get some upper body strength happening, though.

In that case, pushups and crunches are probably your best bet.
You can probably do other light cardio like shadowboxing as well.
I know it took me a while before I was able to do pullups, but this is actually perfect.
If you start doing pushups when you're heavier, you actually gain more strength since that's more weight.

To each their own. All the people I know who have switched meals during their plans have had increased success.

Probably has more to do with not feeling as hungry throughout the day, causing you to overeat when you do have a meal.
I like to snack on stuff when I'm home, though I think it's more out of boredom than anything.
=/

 

[The Take Out Bandit]

Woohoo!

Found a good walking route where I work. It takes about 45 minutes and involves lots of moving between floors and stair usage.

I can get a nice sweat going if I push, but I try to keep below boiling since I'm at work and don't want to become onion guy.

I'm going to do some more exploring and see what floors I can access without keys / clearance and extend it.

Feels good man.

 

[MThanded]

Probably has more to do with not feeling as hungry throughout the day, causing you to overeat when you do have a meal.
I like to snack on stuff when I'm home, though I think it's more out of boredom than anything.
=/

Personally the way I prevent that is buy not buying any foods that are really bad snackable foods. Especially foods I know I like a lot.

 

[TheExodu5]

Personally the way I prevent that is buy not buying any foods that are really bad snackable foods. Especially foods I know I like a lot.

Another solution: always keep water nearby!

 

[MThanded]

Another solution: always keep water nearby!

Yeah i actually drink a ridiculous amount of water.

 

[ch0mp]

Wouldn't it result in smaller insulin spikes, and therefore less fat storage?

Smaller spikes more often.

 

[TheExodu5]

Smaller spikes more often.

Well that's what I mean. Logically, you'd think it would equal the same thing in the end. It depends if insulin spiking vs food consumed is a linear relationship or not.

 

[Akim]

lol my brain is full of fuck

 

[Gary Whitta]

Had a checkup with my doctor today. My BP was 120/70 which is the best it's ever been by far, I used to be borderline high for a long time. Getting my bloodwork soon, keen to see how my lipids are!

FWIW my doc definitely approves of low-carb, he said it's a great diet to live by. The only warning he gave was to avoid eating bacon with nitrates because of the cancer risk. My local market sells organic bacon without nitrates, I think I'm gonna switch to that.

 

[oatmeal]

<3

 

[Buckethead]

I had those a month ago, I did not care for them.

Tasted like Munch-Em's without that nice grease taste.

 

[TheExodu5]

I had these last week and I thought they were pretty good:

Serving Size 1oz (28g/about 22 pieces)
Calories 150
Total Fat 8g 12%
Saturated Fat 1g 5%
Trans Fat 0g 0%
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Sodium 125mg 5%
Total Carbohydrate 14g 5%
Dietary Fiber 2g 8%
Sugars less than 1g
Protein 5g

Surprising amount of protein. Still not carb light, but not a terrible snack.

 

[Gary Whitta]

Hmm that's a lot of carbs for 1oz. All in all I'd rather have the same weight in almonds or mixed nuts.

 

[oatmeal]

I had those a month ago, I did not care for them.

Tasted like Munch-Em's without that nice grease taste.

I enjoy them. The serving size is massive (68 pieces, i usually have 38 (1 cup) and call it a day).

Great snack to munch on like chips.

 

[Xelinis]

Am I doing this low carb thing right?

2 Hamburger Pattys with 1 slice of cheese and 2 pieces of bacon in between. 2 pieces of bacon and a fried egg on top.

You make Low-Carb-GAF proud.

 

[Shaneus]

Does anyone have a good hamburger recipe that tastes really nice? I think I'm officially over buying the pre-made ones from my butcher and want something that tastes nice, not something that skimps on flavour by keeping the carbs down.

For some reason I think I've heard soy sauce is good? I have some garlic and chili flakes I can add as well, but if there's something I can use to sweeten the meat up a bit without carbing the fuck out of it, that would be awesome.

 

[ipukespiders]

The only warning he gave was to avoid eating bacon with nitrates because of the cancer risk. My local market sells organic bacon without nitrates, I think I'm gonna switch to that.

That is simply not true.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3407406

Great thread (ctrl F "nitrates")

 

[bodyboarder]

I just had a look at the back of the ketchup bottle, so much sugar

 

[jts]

Hi guys, long time no see!

I've been on a bit of a plateau lately, but it's more like a slow descent than anything else, really. Currently @ 74kg (163lbs). Goal is 150lbs, started at 225 on the Jan 1st.

I'm no longer obsessed with checking my weight daily and I don't fret if I'm with friends and take a meal that I shouldn't. I'm already comfortably below the BMI limit that defines my weight as normal.

Fucking old clothes fit again, I look younger and better than I have in the last 4/5 years. I just feel great overall.

I don't want to feel like I did it already, because there are still ways to go to reach my goal weight and lose the small gut I have, plus I want some body recomp. But yeah

Hugs guys, thank you all and keep going strong. This thread was life changing for me!

 

[J Tourettes]

I have one of those chin up bars but my arms are weaksauce. I'll start using it once I get some upper body strength happening, though.

Try supporting your legs on a chair or stool for some assisted pull ups, they definitely help.

 

[Zinga]

Put on weight during the school holidays (one of the downsides of being a teacher...) so jumping in this thread to lose a few kilos and for moral support to keep me going. Lost nearly 20 kilos last year and got myself fit by going to the gym 3 times a week, so my confidence is pretty low atm due to slipping and putting on weight again, but I know once I get some success again I will feel much better about myself.

Weight: 80kg
Goal: 74kg

Wish me luck guys

 

[AceBandage]

Does anyone have a good hamburger recipe that tastes really nice? I think I'm officially over buying the pre-made ones from my butcher and want something that tastes nice, not something that skimps on flavour by keeping the carbs down.

For some reason I think I've heard soy sauce is good? I have some garlic and chili flakes I can add as well, but if there's something I can use to sweeten the meat up a bit without carbing the fuck out of it, that would be awesome.

Blue Cheese + Worcestershire Sauce.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

That is simply not true.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3407406

Great thread (ctrl F "nitrates")

Now that's interesting! I've been avoiding nitrates, too, but I'll have to take a look at this.