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Weight Loss Before/After Thread! (with pics)

dralla

Member
Berries, om nom nom. Full of anti-oxidants and fiber.
I opened my fridge this morning and saw a big ass carton of Blackberries, it was a nice surprise.

I'm worried diet soda is slowing me down, I drink about 1.5L a day...
that's a lot of soda, it's most likely not slowing your weight loss down but it might not be the healthiest to consume that much artificial chemicals per day. Why not limit yourself to a can or two a day. You could always try naturally sweetened drinks, I talked about Sobe Lifewater Zero a few pages back, really good stuff. Zevia is a naturally sweetened soda if you want to go that route. I think you'd be fine just cutting back on the diet soda though
 

Keylime

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So when is a proper new thread going to be started up with lots of info in the OP?

I've been debating creating something like that for a bit. Not sure if there is a ton of demand for one or not, though.

I'd be down to start making one.
 

SeanR1221

Member
I've been debating creating something like that for a bit. Not sure if there is a ton of demand for one or not, though.

I'd be down to start making one.

I just think we might be able to draw in more people to eat right with a good OP.

I'm sure we could all chip in and help.
 

dralla

Member
I think it should be a "Weight Loss and General Health" thread, it would be a lot of work to get to collect all the info. How do you handle all of the different theories? What about all the before and after stories/pics from this thread?
 

dantehemi

Member
Just bought, why we get fat by taubes. Alot of people seem to be talking about this book, and I figure I have a lot to Learn so I might as well give it a read.

As far as my keto goes, I'm closing in on the 2 month mark and here are some impression (my own personal)

- I feel great, tons of energy, just feel better
- I find it easy to eat the righ foods, I don't seem to be a "carb" person....2 months haven't had any bread or rice or pasta (and I'm Italian lol)
- I am very disappointed in my weight loss up to this point, 2 months in and I haven't even dropped a jean size, and I'm not moving on the scale currently 380lbs (shouldn't I be melting the weight off at my size?)
- I think I have to start counting calories and monitoring everything I consume (something is fucking me up)
- I have to join a gym, I need to be more active

Fuck fuck fuck fuck I want to loose this weight, I know I can do it, I'm excited about it...I'm making keto my passion...in 2 months I never ate more than 30 grams of "net" carbs in a day, and that's being a high number. I'm ussaly under 20 "gross" carbs all the time....I'm really getting down about it, but I still feel good so thats still keeping me into it. I even went to my doctor to ask why I'm not loosing weight? All she could tell me is to keep with it and eventually it should start....that's what I'm gonna do.....

6'2" 380lbs how many calories should I be eating to loose weight/fat? I want to plug that info into my fitness pal and follow it to a T.

I need to loose this fucking weight!!!!!!!! Thanks guys, your the best.
 
Just bought, why we get fat by taubes. Alot of people seem to be talking about this book, and I figure I have a lot to Learn so I might as well give it a read.

As far as my keto goes, I'm closing in on the 2 month mark and here are some impression (my own personal)

- I feel great, tons of energy, just feel better
- I find it easy to eat the righ foods, I don't seem to be a "carb" person....2 months haven't had any bread or rice or pasta (and I'm Italian lol)
- I am very disappointed in my weight loss up to this point, 2 months in and I haven't even dropped a jean size, and I'm not moving on the scale currently 380lbs (shouldn't I be melting the weight off at my size?)
- I think I have to start counting calories and monitoring everything I consume (something is fucking me up)
- I have to join a gym, I need to be more active

Fuck fuck fuck fuck I want to loose this weight, I know I can do it, I'm excited about it...I'm making keto my passion...in 2 months I never ate more than 30 grams of "net" carbs in a day, and that's being a high number. I'm ussaly under 20 "gross" carbs all the time....I'm really getting down about it, but I still feel good so thats still keeping me into it. I even went to my doctor to ask why I'm not loosing weight? All she could tell me is to keep with it and eventually it should start....that's what I'm gonna do.....

6'2" 380lbs how many calories should I be eating to loose weight/fat? I want to plug that info into my fitness pal and follow it to a T.

I need to loose this fucking weight!!!!!!!! Thanks guys, your the best.

First of all, it's "lose," not "loose." Now that that's clarified, we can move on.

You probably are simply eating too much. Even if you were ingesting 0 carbs per day, it's still possible to consume too many calories. I grabbed this from the Fitness thread here on GAF to help you determine how many calories you should be getting per day:

Calories
People need calories to stay alive, even the laziest couch potato does. The barest minimum of calories that you need to stay alive—without any exertion whatsoever—is called your BMR.

Here’s how you calculate your BMR. First, measure your bodyfat percentage, either with calipers or with a special scale. Suppose it’s 10%. Calculate your lean percentage by subtracting your bodyfat percentage from 100—in this case, that would be 90 %. Now multiply your lean percentage with your weight in kilos. If you weigh 80kg, that would be 72kg. Finally, multiply this number by 21 and add 370. This is your BMR, which in this case would be (72 * 21) + 370 = 1882. (If you don’t know your bodyfat percentage, you can also use online calculators.)

Now, if you exercise, you need to take in more calories than your BMR, of course. How much more? That depends upon the amount of calories burned.

If your activity level is moderate, you daily caloric requirements will be roughly 1.5 times your BMR (physically undemanding work + regular gym visits).

If your activity level is high (professional athlete, hours of training each day), then your daily needs are as much as 1.8 or even 2 times your BMR.

If you want to lose weight, you should reduce your intake of calories to 80 or 90% of your daily required intake. If you want to gain muscle, you should up your intake of calories up to 110 or 120% of your daily required amount (don’t expect to gain muscle by merely going to the gym and lifting weights—you gotta eat too!).
 
Is it ok to pig out in one day ex: big mac fries

I've been dieting already and doing 6 days jogging with some P90x

A cheat meal (or even an entire cheat day) are important to help maintain your sanity. Most diet plans encourage them. Just be careful to not overdo it. Also, it can be very difficult to get back on track with your diet the next day, so just be aware of that.

One more thing: if possible, try to eat our cheat meal directly after your workout so most of the carbs will be used for muscle repair rather than be stored as fat.
 
So GAF, im about 5ft 6 5ft 7 and just under 200 lbs iv always been pretty built and im fairly strong got large shoulders ect but im looking to lose weight this year, iv put a little on over the holiday period and im not liking it at all.

Im not against changing my eating habits at all or exercise i can do at home, (not really a gym guy or a runner)

Any advice, Simple food plans ect i can start with? Im cutting fast food soda and sweets out of my diet altogether.

Water, Fresh Juice and Milk is what ill drink but i need advice on food
 

Piecake

Member
So GAF, im about 5ft 6 5ft 7 and just under 200 lbs iv always been pretty built and im fairly strong got large shoulders ect but im looking to lose weight this year, iv put a little on over the holiday period and im not liking it at all.

Im not against chaining my eating habits at all or exercise i can do at home, (not really a gym guy or a runner)

Any advice, Simple food plans ect i can start with? Im cutting fast food soda and sweets out of my diet altogether.

Water, Fresh Juice and Milk is what ill drink but i need advice on food

just drinking water would be even better, and if you need a flavored drink, just drink some green tea. I'd avoid juice since its basically fruit flavored sugar water
 

dantehemi

Member
I would really suggest the keto diet, alot of guys can help you get started. But from what I understand it goes like this
- no more than 20 "net" grams of carbs daily
- you want to aim at a 65/30/5 fat/pro/carb balance with you calories.
- while some say calories don't matter, I'm finding out that they do, so find whatsright for you and follow that 65/30/5 ratio
- drink lots of water
- try to have a green veggie with every meal. (that's a personal one of mine) but I think it helps alot

If you have any question, alot of these guys are great on here and will help you alot!!

Also If you want to do some reading I have Tons of links I can sen you, I have been making keto part of my life for the last 2 months... I think it's great, you really feel great doing it
 

BlueSteel

Member
I can do that, Recommended foods ? Should i cut carbs altogether?

Depends, will you actually be able to withstand the first few weeks of adjustment, in which you will feel super tired? I wasn't going full keto last time I dieted and I still hated the feeling.

Calorie restriction is pretty much what I'd suggest. I'd highly recommend lifting, but if you really are averse to them you could always do body-weight workout (some gymnastic exercises,handsands, planche holds, hollow holds, one legged squats etc) to stimulate your muscles. Most of this won't actually burn calories really, but it will help overall fitness,
 

dantehemi

Member
I would really love a keto-OT a place us guys can go to discuss just keto, show off some food porn with recipes, compare meal plans and provide suport for those who are just starting out and feeling that keto flu and are thinking of stoping. Also get some technical info in there and some workout plans people on keto are trying and how there body reacts to them, I have tons of links of some essential reading and I'm sure we have more than enough people who are doing keto along with us that can contribute in a positive way..

Maybe I'll get one up and running if I get a chance, I suck at borders and graphics, so it won't be a pretty OT... But it will have all the info people need to get started an learn this great way of living!!! What do you guys say? Good idea?
 
A cheat meal (or even an entire cheat day) are important to help maintain your sanity. Most diet plans encourage them. Just be careful to not overdo it. Also, it can be very difficult to get back on track with your diet the next day, so just be aware of that.

One more thing: if possible, try to eat our cheat meal directly after your workout so most of the carbs will be used for muscle repair rather than be stored as fat.
Thanks. Note taken
I'll do this cheat meal for dinner after P90x and make sure to eat low cal before this big meal
 

Domino Theory

Crystal Dynamics
Just bought, why we get fat by taubes. Alot of people seem to be talking about this book, and I figure I have a lot to Learn so I might as well give it a read.

As far as my keto goes, I'm closing in on the 2 month mark and here are some impression (my own personal)

- I feel great, tons of energy, just feel better
- I find it easy to eat the righ foods, I don't seem to be a "carb" person....2 months haven't had any bread or rice or pasta (and I'm Italian lol)
- I am very disappointed in my weight loss up to this point, 2 months in and I haven't even dropped a jean size, and I'm not moving on the scale currently 380lbs (shouldn't I be melting the weight off at my size?)
- I think I have to start counting calories and monitoring everything I consume (something is fucking me up)
- I have to join a gym, I need to be more active

Fuck fuck fuck fuck I want to loose this weight, I know I can do it, I'm excited about it...I'm making keto my passion...in 2 months I never ate more than 30 grams of "net" carbs in a day, and that's being a high number. I'm ussaly under 20 "gross" carbs all the time....I'm really getting down about it, but I still feel good so thats still keeping me into it. I even went to my doctor to ask why I'm not loosing weight? All she could tell me is to keep with it and eventually it should start....that's what I'm gonna do.....

6'2" 380lbs how many calories should I be eating to loose weight/fat? I want to plug that info into my fitness pal and follow it to a T.

I need to loose this fucking weight!!!!!!!! Thanks guys, your the best.

http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

Are you having grains as your daily allowance of carbs? Are you eating nuts (very calorie dense)? Are you having hidden carbs (such as 'low carb bread' and all those other garbage substitutes)? There's always an explanation for stalling weight loss.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
I would really suggest the keto diet, alot of guys can help you get started. But from what I understand it goes like this
- no more than 20 "net" grams of carbs daily
- you want to aim at a 65/30/5 fat/pro/carb balance with you calories.
- while some say calories don't matter, I'm finding out that they do, so find whatsright for you and follow that 65/30/5 ratio
- drink lots of water
- try to have a green veggie with every meal. (that's a personal one of mine) but I think it helps alot

If you have any question, alot of these guys are great on here and will help you alot!!

Also If you want to do some reading I have Tons of links I can sen you, I have been making keto part of my life for the last 2 months... I think it's great, you really feel great doing it

I really don't know what to say. What are the specific foods and drinks you are consuming?

I convinced a coworker of mine, who was apparently at 360 pounds in August of last year, to read Wheat Belly and Why We Get Fat. A week later, the dude had completely changed his diet (swore off grains and sugar) and started eating right. Before the change, he was eating sandwiches and burgers pretty much every day along with large amounts of soda. He dropped weight insanely quickly. I checked in with him last week and he's apparently already down to 280 pounds.
 

dantehemi

Member
Are you having grains as your daily allowance of carbs? Are you eating nuts (very calorie dense)? Are you having hidden carbs (such as 'low carb bread' and all those other garbage substitutes)? There's always an explanation for stalling weight loss.

2 months and I haven't eaten any grains whatsoever. My only carbs come from broccoli, romaine lettuce, eggs, bacon, almonds, walnuts, salad dressing, and the odd 1 or 2 grams of carbs from a hotdog, sausage, feta stuffed jalapeño peppers, etc... I don't use any type of substitutes, I mostly eat meats with broccoli and cheese.


My basal metabolic rate is, 2741 cals.
So I should be eating much less than this, correct?
 

dantehemi

Member
I really don't know what to say. What are the specific foods and drinks you are consuming?

I convinced a coworker of mine, who was apparently at 360 pounds in August of last year, to read Wheat Belly and Why We Get Fat. A week later, the dude had completely changed his diet (swore off grains and sugar) and started eating right. Before the change, he was eating sandwiches and burgers pretty much every day along with large amounts of soda. He dropped weight insanely quickly. I checked in with him last week and he's apparently already down to 280 pounds.

It's really bothering me. Here is a list of foods I have eaten in the last 2 months.

Different cuts of steak
Ground beef
Chicken
Bacon
Chicken wings (non breaded, non fried, no sauce)
Cheddar cheese, blue cheese, feta cheese
Romaine lettuce
Bacon bits (real bacon)
Broccoli
A couple different types of dips and spreads (1-2 net carbs per serving)
Almonds
Walnuts
String cheese
Jalapeño peppers stuffed with feta cheese
Sausage
Kielbasa
Beef jerky
Small to moderate amounts of diet soda
Water lots of water
Tuna
Olive oil
Butter
Ceaser dressing
Greek dressing

Might be missing 1 or 2 foods, but this is pretty much the only foods I have eaten in the last 2 months. As you can see they are all very low to non existence carbs
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
It's really bothering me. Here is a list of foods I have eaten in the last 2 months.

Different cuts of steak
Ground beef
Chicken
Bacon
Chicken wings (non breaded, non fried, no sauce)
Cheddar cheese, blue cheese, feta cheese
Romaine lettuce
Bacon bits (real bacon)
Broccoli
A couple different types of dips and spreads (1-2 net carbs per serving)
Almonds
Walnuts
String cheese
Jalapeño peppers stuffed with feta cheese
Sausage
Kielbasa
Beef jerky
Small to moderate amounts of diet soda
Water lots of water
Tuna
Olive oil
Butter
Ceaser dressing
Greek dressing

Might be missing 1 or 2 foods, but this is pretty much the only foods I have eaten in the last 2 months. As you can see they are all very low to non existence carbs

Nothing looks too suspect. Some people have problems with dairy, so you might try cutting that for a bit and see if anything changes. Also, depending on what the dips and spreads are, it might be a good idea to remove them.

Finally, there is a possibility that the diet soda is causing you to eat more. There's been speculation about that in the past. I'd recommend cutting it if you can.

Maybe try focusing on whole foods with only basic seasonings for a while to see if that helps you? Stuff like non-processed meats, vegetables, simple salt, pepper, butter, etc.

My basal metabolic rate is, 2741 cals.
So I should be eating much less than this, correct?

I'm a firm believer that basal metabolic rates and their calculations are bullshit, and that counting calories is not the way to go, but that's just me.

I think it's a much better idea to eat until you start feeling full, then stop. Don't prepare things based on their caloric values and force yourself to eat despite being full (or starve yourself because of some arbitrary caloric limitation you set upon yourself). Eat quality whole foods until you feel full. Don't eat for fun or when you're not actually hungry.
 

dantehemi

Member
Maybe try focusing on whole foods with only basic seasonings for a while to see if that helps you? Stuff like non-processed meats, vegetables, simple salt, pepper, butter, etc.

I think you might be on to something, I will change accordingly, give it a month and see what happens from there. Thanks alot for your help
 

Not a Jellyfish

but I am a sheep
Starting a P90x/Insanity Hybrid tomorrow morning, suggestions for healthy snacks or just things to munch on would be awesome.

What is everyone's favorites?
 

AiTM

Banned
It's really bothering me. Here is a list of foods I have eaten in the last 2 months.

Different cuts of steak
Ground beef
Chicken
Bacon
Chicken wings (non breaded, non fried, no sauce)
Cheddar cheese, blue cheese, feta cheese
Romaine lettuce
Bacon bits (real bacon)
Broccoli
A couple different types of dips and spreads (1-2 net carbs per serving)
Almonds
Walnuts
String cheese
Jalapeño peppers stuffed with feta cheese
Sausage
Kielbasa
Beef jerky
Small to moderate amounts of diet soda
Water lots of water
Tuna
Olive oil
Butter
Ceaser dressing
Greek dressing

Might be missing 1 or 2 foods, but this is pretty much the only foods I have eaten in the last 2 months. As you can see they are all very low to non existence carbs

You must be doing something off to not lose any weight doing keto for 2 months, esp at your weight. Watch all of those cream based sauces, trying using spices instead. And like someone mentioned, try doing less of the dairy. And maybe start walking some. And you should probably write down the amount of calories you are consuming every day and track it.

I realize how frustrating it is to plateau, or not get results, esp when you feel like you have been doing the right thing. The best way you can look at it, is where do you want to be one year from now. Imagine your first real goal line is Jan 1st, 2013. Just keep doing the right thing and its only a matter of time until weight comes off. The fact you have stuck on this style of diet for two months faithfully is an accomplishment in itself. Start reading up on exercise and get started on that. Everyone plateaus, and everyone messes up, I think the people who are successful at getting the body they desire is that they learn not to make those things the end all be all, and learn to get right back up and keep at their goals.
 

AiTM

Banned
Have you already seen a doctor?

Every doctor I have brought low carb up to has a glaring look of disapproval. They will tell him he needs to eat low fat, eat fruit and vegetables, and do cardio.

My doctor even seem to not approve of me weight training, wanted me to be doing treadmill instead.
 

Zoe

Member
Why would he go see a doctor? He'd probably just get prescribed a low-fat grain-based diet and some statins.

Because anyone who is severely unhealthy and is looking to make a drastic lifestyle change should visit the doctor regularly to make sure there's nothing wrong?

My gynecologist endorses the paleo diet, BTW. I believe she's accepting new patients.
 

Keylime

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I'm honestly appalled that doctor's are not up and up on the latest nutritional studies and data. The fact that I think I know more about nutrition and exercise than my doctor just shouldn't be the case.

It just creates a scenario where you wonder how much else they have no idea what they're talking about...only now they are cutting you up or feeding your drugs based on those bad assumptions or thoughts?

When the trust breaks down there, it breaks down everywhere for me.
 
I'm honestly appalled that doctor's are not up and up on the latest nutritional studies and data. The fact that I think I know more about nutrition and exercise than my doctor just shouldn't be the case.

It just creates a scenario where you wonder how much else they have no idea what they're talking about...only now they are cutting you up or feeding your drugs based on those bad assumptions or thoughts?

It's more a problem of how that shit works. Oh hey, 5 minute physical when to have 50 more patients to see today?

Don't expect them to really get anything from them...
 

AiTM

Banned
I'm honestly appalled that doctor's are not up and up on the latest nutritional studies and data. The fact that I think I know more about nutrition and exercise than my doctor just shouldn't be the case.

It just creates a scenario where you wonder how much else they have no idea what they're talking about...only now they are cutting you up or feeding your drugs based on those bad assumptions or thoughts?

When the trust breaks down there, it breaks down everywhere for me.

Honestly I just think its old Doctors. My Doctor is probably in his 50s or 60s, and that means he probably went to Med school in what, the 70s? Think about how much has changed since then. They learn what they learn, and know what they know. Not all are like this obviously, but there have been so many changes in the past 30 years it must be hard to keep up with all of the info. Besides, low fat does work if stuck with. There are a million ways to lose weight, some are just much more efficient than others.

I remember when I went to talk to my doctor about Propecia (slight hair thinning around temples), and I swear to God he pulled out his cell phone and read off of their website. I knew much more than him on it. It got me thinking what else does this guy just read from the pharmaceutical company. Then again maybe my Doctor just sucks.
 

andycapps

Member
Whole foods deli counter. I've seen it at Sam's Club. Other folks have recommended Walmart.

I was there late last night and didn't see it. Checked the whole meat section, though I didn't check the deli. Maybe that's where it was hiding out. I was really wanting some for this Saturday morning breakfast too. Of course, being Walmart and late at night, there was nobody around for me to ask. Hate that store.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
Because anyone who is severely unhealthy and is looking to make a drastic lifestyle change should visit the doctor regularly to make sure there's nothing wrong?

My gynecologist endorses the paleo diet, BTW. I believe she's accepting new patients.

I disagree with that sentiment. Doctors aren't infallible, especially in the field of nutrition. No reason to put your trust into one, especially when your lifestyle change is simply to stop eating a bunch of garbage.

Then again maybe my Doctor just sucks.

He probably does, but so do a lot of other doctors.

It's not realistic to expect doctors to be well-versed on everything regarding human health. Most doctors probably have a specialty they are passionate about. For everything else, they just follow whatever official guidelines they are given. You're almost certainly better off doing your own research at that point.
 

Zoe

Member
I disagree with that sentiment. Doctors aren't infallible, especially in the field of nutrition. No reason to put your trust into one, especially when your lifestyle change is simply to stop eating a bunch of garbage.

I'm not saying that he should go to the doctor to get nutrition advice.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
I'm not saying that he should go to the doctor to get nutrition advice.

What are you saying then? Why should he go to the doctor if his lifestyle change is simply changing the way he eats?
 

Zoe

Member
What are you saying then? Why should he go to the doctor if his lifestyle change is simply changing the way he eats?

Because he might have some medical condition that's impeding his progress. And huge changes to your lifestyle can exacerbate that.
 
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