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Weight Loss Before/After Thread! (with pics)
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Butt... busting brownie?
FallingEdge
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lots of hamburgers.
low carb isnt everything. the brownies are only 55 calories a serving if the women on facebook are right.
dr oz sucks though. he's like oprah, he show is nothing more than a long commercial. nearly all of his advice is based on product placement and because of that a lot of it is bullshit.
Obviously it's not the be all end all, but the majority, if not all, of those women on stage were obese. Research shows a lower carb, high fat diet is much easier for people like that to stick to.
The brownie could be 2 calories, it's still not some magic, ass reducing food.
Since we're on the "high fat" topic, what do you guys think are the best oils to use in cooking your foods? Conventional wisdom has been that animal fats = bad, plant oils = good. Looking into things more for myself has seemed to indicate that vegetable oils are pretty bad for you, canola oil a little better, olive oil good but can't heat to high temps, and animal fats I'm unsure about. I've heard good things about coconut oils, what about peanut oil? I'd have to think that animal fats would be better for us in that we have been consuming them as a species forever. We didn't consume vegetable oils because we didn't have the tech to even produce them until recently.
Also, what are the dangers of trans fats?
Also, what are the dangers of trans fats?
to the audience that eats up that show it is. oz is pandering to the same audience that buys into the bullshit 10 minute workouts that will get you ripped in 3 weeks.
Price Dalton
Member
The more saturated the fat, the better its resistance to heat. So, ghee, coconut oil, beef tallow, and palm oil are all good. Butter's okay for medium heat, but the milk proteins burn pretty easily.
Olive oil is actually okay for medium-heat cooking. The polyphenols in the extra virgin stuff protect the fats from getting damaged.
And yeah, stay away from vegetable oils.
Thanks for the input. So lard/manteca would be considered a good oil? Obviously, in moderation. Not drinking the stuff, but if I have to cook with oil at a high heat, is that a good one?
FallingEdge
Member
Biggest problem when trying to initially set up a diet imo.
Underestimate how much you eat, overestimate how much you burn, and how many calories are needed to lose fat.
Underestimate how much you eat, overestimate how much you burn, and how many calories are needed to lose fat.
a quick google search shows a lot of women think they burn 1000+ calories doing it. i wonder if it's advertised as burn up to 1000 calories a workout. looking at the videos i would be surprised if one workout burned 500 calories.
Sounds more like a high-fiber brownie to me.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Heh, even in P90X Tony says Plyo burns around 600 or so, no way Zumba is 1000.
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Considering this calculator shows that you'd have to be CRANKING at 89% of your max heart rate for an hour straight just to burn 681 calories...means absolutely not.
There is zero percent chance that anyone is working that hard from Zumba. Those people look happy and cheerful...not drowning in agony and sweat.
There is zero percent chance that anyone is working that hard from Zumba. Those people look happy and cheerful...not drowning in agony and sweat.
Yep, I don't count my lifting sessions or my cardio in there. I just multiply my bmr by 1.5 and then subtract 500 to get my cals. 1.5 because I lift heavy 3x per week and do LISS 4-5 times a week.
Considering this calculator shows that you'd have to be CRANKING at 89% of your max heart rate for an hour straight just to burn 681 calories...means absolutely not.
There is zero percent chance that anyone is working that hard from Zumba. Those people look happy and cheerful...not drowning in agony and sweat.
And I could see that from Insanity. A lot of people have used heart rate monitors to measure their heart rate, and burning 600 calories in an hour of Insanity is definitely possible if you're killing it the whole time. But I agree, my wife does Zumba, and while I know your heart rate is elevated some, I've never seen her or anyone on there collapse because they can't do any more. I'm usually drenched in sweat, my wife usually has a "sheen" of sweat. Haha
Above all you gotta get that diet in check and deal with those fast food temptations.
simple dont eat fast food. just because your gf eats it doesnt mean you need to. if you cant get past that then you dont really want to lose weight.... or you could swallow some tape worm eggs.
yeah i do insanity too. they claim up to 1000 calories on the max workouts and i imagine you could burn that providing youre fairly fat and some how you can keep up a decent pace. that shit is hard as hell. SeanR1221 should recommend that facebook girl try one of the videos to see what a real workout feels like.
My basic assumption of my cardio calorie burning is "failure to care." Just ultimately works out better for me that way.
Googling got me this:
800+ seems to be the target number for every glowing recommendation for it.
I'm on my second time through and in week 4, so recovery week. But the max workouts are around an hour, right? 1000 seems a bit ambitious, and if you're overweight, you won't be able to finish those. 600 seems like a safer estimate of what you'd burn at the most. 400 calories is what I usually estimate on the first phase, except for the recovery day which is only a 20 minute workout.
I dont worry about calories while working out anymore. I work out because of body composition and how much more stable of a person I am when I do. I'm a totally different person when I'm working out versus when I'm not. Much more prone to be depressed and sad, emotional, etc when I'm lazy and dont work out.
Zoe
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I keep a record of how many calories I burn on the elliptical so I can keep track of my progress. Though I normally do the "heart rate" program, so it's kind of moot.
I don't really care how much I burn in group exercise, but I am a little curious about it. I'll probably get a calorie counter one of these days.
I don't really care how much I burn in group exercise, but I am a little curious about it. I'll probably get a calorie counter one of these days.
Zoe
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Thyroid testing should be part of your yearly physical.
I haven't drunk full sugar Soda in years. If I have Soda I have a drink called Diet Rite, it pretty much has nothing in it but tastes nice. The worst "junk" food I have would be like a muesli bar. Don't eat chips, a small bit of chocolate, nothing high in fat, high in sugar, ect.
I don't really care for water, though I should drink more. I wanted to find some flavoured water but it seems Australia doesn't sell ANY no sugar kinds. Stupid.
yeah max workouts are an hour. hour and a half on the days where they add abs or fitness test in there. 1000 calories is definitely ambitious but maybe possible if you're a fat exercise savant. like you i usually estimate only 400-500 calories each workout. i figure aim lower and if you burn more it's a bonus.
i just started phase 2 last night... i can already tell my legs will be destroyed by the end of this. i thought it was kinda weird that some of the dudes were dicking around in the back of the Max Interval Circuit video.
its some thing i plan to get tested soon. im thinking it could be one of the reasons i feel tired when waking up even after a good sleep.
I've been getting salads at fast food places if I have to.
Or just eat a burger. Fries and Soda are just empty calories.
Destroyed, but improved at the end. I don't think it ever gets easier, but if you go back and do some of the earlier workouts at the end, you'll see how much you've progressed. And yeah, none of the people doing the workouts can do 100%. Shaun T definitely can't, he's way too bulky. He usually just does a couple minutes and then walks around and encourages everyone else, then jumps back into it. I figure if I take as many breaks as the people do that are doing the program then I'm doing pretty well. Hardest part is to take a gulp of water and jump back into it. I always feel like I need 5 more seconds.
I was listening to one of Jimmy Moore's podcasts recently and one of the guests, a nutritionist or doctor I believe, was talking about her patients response to being put on a paleo diet. She talked about certain patients feeling better and generally getting healthier but not losing weight due to eating so poorly for so long, resulting in becoming highly insulin resistance. Unfortunately I forget which episode it was but she said the weight will begin to come off in time, you can't reverse years of damage over night. This might be it but I'm not sure, either way this is a good listen. It'a about the long term effects of the high-carb/low-fat diet we're on - http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/...the-high-carb-sad-diet-dr-cate-shanahan/13456
Yeah a couple of the people struggle quite a bit in some videos. I think out of all of the people tanya? (the asian girl) is probably the closet to being able to do the workouts fully. She's a machine and crazy fast.
I agree with you on the water breaks. Deciding on a couple extra breaths of air or a mouthful of water is hard to make.
I plan to go through insanity a second time after im done. I lool forward to revisiting phase 1 again. Pretty enjoyable workout IMO. I thought it might get tedious but the workouts are so intense time goes by fast.
Price Dalton
Member
Yeah, lard's pretty good.
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Deleted member 17706
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Lots of carbs in milk, but if you don't drink too much you should be fine.
Haha yeah Tanya seems like the co-leader of the workouts along with him. He's always coming to her and out of all the women, she seems to consistently kill the workouts
and she's the only one with fake boobs
If you end up under the carb limit, then yes..if not, then no.
I shoot for no more than 20g so I definitely don't touch milk and instead drink heavy cream.
criesofthepast
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Congratulations on the weight loss, but disagree with your advice.
Telling people to eat less sounds lot like telling them to ignore their hunger. You found success doing that, but did you feel satiated by your meals? If not, that's a problem in my opinion.
I can't really comment any further without knowing what kinds of foods you ate, but for a lot of people out there, simply eating less probably isn't the answer. A lot of people really need to change what it is they eat.
So, pretty much drive on... And eventually the results will come? I can see this being true... I have always had bad eating habits when it came to the wrong foods. I bet I have that resistance...thanks alot for that...I'm gonna keep on going strong!
Don't think this post will get much love but it's something to think about: http://freetheanimal.com/2012/02/synthesis-low-carb-and-food-rewardpalatability-and-why-calories-count.html
criesofthepast
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Yup getting those portion sizes down is very important. over eating is why you got fat in the first place and continuing to do so will only slow your weight loss and once you ween off the diet you'll balloon up again. You'll feel hungry while your body adjusts to the correct portion sizes but those feelings will go away.
man of science
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So I finished reading Good Calories, Bad Calories and it is fascinating. Even more so than Why We Get Fat. The last chapter on hunger and satiety was eye opening, though perhaps too short.
It's too bad how very difficult it is to discuss the low Carb approach to diet considering it goes against what is believed almost universally (that it's the fat that's bad for you).
It's too bad how very difficult it is to discuss the low Carb approach to diet considering it goes against what is believed almost universally (that it's the fat that's bad for you).