NinjaJesus
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Switch the dpad and the analog on the dual shock. Fix the dpad on the 360 and at least package it with a play and charge kit.
What aspects of the PS3 and X360 controllers would you change for next gen?
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Honestly, I would be cool with no triggers as well. They're no necessary, in fact the DS3 is worse than DS2 as a result of them.
Let it rest in your hands, don't grip it. The handles should rest in your pinky and ring fingers.
Seventy_X_Seven
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Only think I want upgraded in the DS4 is better analogs that don't wear out so quickly. Aside from that I really don't have much to complain about, unlike past gens with the original DS and DS2. I hope they keep the left analog under the d-pad also, I can't stand it the other way around but that's just me.
XOMTOR
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360 grip
PS3 Layout
Logitech Bumpers
EDIT.
.. looking at it now, nothing about the 360 controller is that great, if you've used the logitech precision, you've held the best controller ever.
The off set 360 analog sticks are stupid.
360 triggers are really good for racing games though.
Gonna have to agree with this, best damn controller I've used. It's larger and heftier than a Dualshock, the sticks have more resistance and the triggers are much better. The whole controller just feels like a higher quality product.
It could be improved by adding the Vita's d-pad and a rechargeable Li-Ion battery.
The Dual Shock needs better triggers and a longer USB cord but other than that I think it's perfect.
You can already change that in the settings.
You can already change that in the settings.
Barry Burton
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Xbox: Better D-Pad, as others have said.
Playstation: Just get rid of the Dual Shock, as others have said.
Playstation: Just get rid of the Dual Shock, as others have said.
The deadzone is actually due to software on the PS3. When I use the DS3 on my PC the deadzone is virtually non-existent
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
I don't know what it is about the 360 controller, but it gives me cramps..I'm actually okay with the Dualshock.
Might be a matter of SCE requirements then that should be overhauled with the next generation. Or their controllers tweaked so mandated such a large dead zone ISN'T necessary, it may well be the result of some games on PS1, like Star Ocean 2, having SLIGHT movement because the small dead zone they had, though on my controller that's usually fixed instantly just by doing a circle.
Actually, I had that pop up sometimes on the PS2, but usually with a slightly busted controller I think.
Think it depends on grip and the type of game played, but I generally prefer the Dual Shock just because it's one of the best general purpose controllers, maybe even THE best (at least in the DS2 incarnation) out there. The 360's specialized for games in a 3D space, and the GC controller required games be optimized FOR it.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
DS3:
- The analog triggers. They just feel so damn awkward.
- The handles should be a bit longer and slightly more ergonomical.
360:
- Actually using a d-pad (the one on the limited edition controller is almost there, but not quite)
- Reducing the weight of the wireless controller. It feels so damn heavy because of the battery pack. The wired controller feels at least a ton lighter.
That's all I have to say about them. Both controllers feel fine in my hands except for the missing ergonomy on the DS3 and the weight of the 360 controller.
Tthe WiiU Pro Controller seems to become the best controller in existence, though. But we'll see about that.
- The analog triggers. They just feel so damn awkward.
- The handles should be a bit longer and slightly more ergonomical.
360:
- Actually using a d-pad (the one on the limited edition controller is almost there, but not quite)
- Reducing the weight of the wireless controller. It feels so damn heavy because of the battery pack. The wired controller feels at least a ton lighter.
That's all I have to say about them. Both controllers feel fine in my hands except for the missing ergonomy on the DS3 and the weight of the 360 controller.
Tthe WiiU Pro Controller seems to become the best controller in existence, though. But we'll see about that.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
damn you OS X and your variety of random features ::shakes fist::OS X comes with DS3 drivers
The 360 controller is actually worse since they have one for the PC, they just make you buy a whole different one rather than allowing you to use the 360 one on the PC
No they don't? "Xbox 360 Controller for Windows" is just packaging. You do need a Microsoft-made dongle to use wireless ones on PC, but they're the same models as you use on the console.
Mikey Jr.
Member
DS3: (Love the controller. Fuck you guys who say to ditch it)
-Little bit longer handles
-The triggers really are terrible. But don't make them actual triggers like the 360. The shape of them is fine. I actually prefer using the R1/L1 buttons as shoot/aim versus using the triggers on the 360.
-I guess concave sticks would be ok, but not a deal breaker for me.
-Little bit longer handles
-The triggers really are terrible. But don't make them actual triggers like the 360. The shape of them is fine. I actually prefer using the R1/L1 buttons as shoot/aim versus using the triggers on the 360.
-I guess concave sticks would be ok, but not a deal breaker for me.
Baconsammy
Banned
360 - better dpad (Vita's is the gold standard now). Everything else about it is perfect. The absolute best controller on any console
PS3 - Dump it and copy the 360's controller and add the Vita's dpad to it.
PS3 - Dump it and copy the 360's controller and add the Vita's dpad to it.
The two things I would change about the 360 controller would be making the D-Pad better (along the lines of the DualShock 3's) and make the triggers wider. Do those two things and I would actually consider it pretty close to perfect. Maybe make the analog sticks slightly longer, but that's not really a huge priority to me.
As for the PS3 controller...I've always had issues with the Playstation controllers, I've never really liked how damn close the analog sticks are to each other. I also wish the analog nubs were concave instead of convex. Also, make the controller itself more ergonomic, it's a bit awkward to hold if you have bigger hands. Fuck it, as long as I'm listing things, give it some more heft, I feel like it's going to fall apart if I sneeze too hard.
As for the PS3 controller...I've always had issues with the Playstation controllers, I've never really liked how damn close the analog sticks are to each other. I also wish the analog nubs were concave instead of convex. Also, make the controller itself more ergonomic, it's a bit awkward to hold if you have bigger hands. Fuck it, as long as I'm listing things, give it some more heft, I feel like it's going to fall apart if I sneeze too hard.
Forceatowulf
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DS3:
Triggers
Tighter sticks
That's it honestly... I think that controller is damn near perfect with those additions.
And I really don't want them to switch the D-Pad for analog stick. Just fuck that noise.
Triggers
Tighter sticks
That's it honestly... I think that controller is damn near perfect with those additions.
And I really don't want them to switch the D-Pad for analog stick. Just fuck that noise.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
....What
A friend told me ages ago that it wouldn't work with the wireless ones and I sort of believed him simply because I never could get it to work on my pc. Stupid me. I wonder why it wouldn't work now.
I still stand by the dualshock needing it for DS4
Yes yes yes. Triggers are essentially useless. Give me a DS2 with bluetooth and I'd be set.
What doesn't work is connecting through USB via the recharging kit and using it that way, and that's one of those things I want changed. And in that regard you could be partially right anyway: I managed to have two wireless receivers, but one broke (somehow) and without those to get an official one you'd need to buy either a PC-branded wireless controller or a wireless headset that uses that receiver, and given the flakiness of the receiver a wired controller is probably the best option anyway.
This more or less. I HATE the fatness of xbox controllers. I know it's great for some of you with your sausage fingers, but my lady-fingers can't stand it.
Also, I really would love to see the batarang controller make a return. That thing looked great, and I still hate all the naysayers. DAMN THEM
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
I'd actually like future controllers to be 'breakapart' into one section for each hand. Or just be two seperate sections. Like having two PSMove navigators I guess.
The wiimote + nunchuk is so comfortable to use, it seems backwards to be forcing us to hold our hands together again.
The wiimote + nunchuk is so comfortable to use, it seems backwards to be forcing us to hold our hands together again.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I'd put a good D-pad on the 360 pad.
I'd make the DS3 a 360 pad.
Everyone wanting a built-in rechargeable battery in the 360 pad is insane. The ability to use AAs is one of the best things about the 360 pad.
I'd make the DS3 a 360 pad.
Everyone wanting a built-in rechargeable battery in the 360 pad is insane. The ability to use AAs is one of the best things about the 360 pad.
DeadFalling
Member
Haha yeah I switch my 360 controller between the console and my PC all the time.
DeadFalling
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double post
Baconsammy
Banned
HawksWinStanley
Member
Amen.
RevolverFox44
Banned
Proper triggers on the Dualshock. Change the body a little to make it look more modern and a bit more ergonomic, but not enough that it loses its recognizable shape or allow it to be mistaken for a 360 pad at a glance. Keep the internal battery, the button layout and leave the analog stick placement as-is, where they belong.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
The revised Saturn controller D-pad and the D-pad on the Genesis 6-button are easily better anyway. SEGA could use the money.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Okay, thats what I originally thought. The 360 controllers should just have a straight USB connection or connection via bluetooth. Especially since the wireless receivers are more expensive then they should be and don't come with the system/controllers.
Haha yeah I switch my 360 controller between the console and my PC all the time.
Stop trying to confuse me!
hikarutilmitt
Member
I'll bite:
360:
-rechargeable as-is instead of needing batteries or a pack
-better d-pad
-slightly lighter
PS3:
-d-pad from the Vita
-L2/R2 more like actual triggers or at least flat on the bottom so I don't put it down wrong and accidentally hit one/both of them
That said, I prefer the sticks be in parallel, whether it's like the DS3 or the WiiU PC. The sticks being convex vs concave I don't care too much on, but I prefer the feel of the DS3 sticks to the 360's as well.
Otherwise, every controller should be rechargeable out of the box, not have shitty buttons and possibly support the current gen controllers when possible (I don't see this being an issue with the PS4 and WiiU).
360:
-rechargeable as-is instead of needing batteries or a pack
-better d-pad
-slightly lighter
PS3:
-d-pad from the Vita
-L2/R2 more like actual triggers or at least flat on the bottom so I don't put it down wrong and accidentally hit one/both of them
That said, I prefer the sticks be in parallel, whether it's like the DS3 or the WiiU PC. The sticks being convex vs concave I don't care too much on, but I prefer the feel of the DS3 sticks to the 360's as well.
Otherwise, every controller should be rechargeable out of the box, not have shitty buttons and possibly support the current gen controllers when possible (I don't see this being an issue with the PS4 and WiiU).
I'm fairly sure that patent has expired? Which is partly why they changed their Dpad designs around the time of the DS.
Anyway, assuming that neither company is going to make a split controller with a pointer standard:
360: shape is fine, but all the components suck. Buttons should be flat and matte, stick shouldn't grind, give it a functioning D pad etc. Make it rechargeable too.
DS3: scrap it completely. Start again with the GCN pad as a base, but make the shoulder (z) buttons more comfortable, change the buttons lay out I guess, have a proper second stick, have a proper size d pad (and don't make it one of the spongy pieces of shit that Sony normally use)
Trent Strong
Banned
The left analoge stick on the 360 controller is too high.
Yes please plus IR cameras on both nunchucks
The 360 pad is pretty much perfect. Just an improved dpad would be nice. No problems otherwise.
With the dual shock 3, I'd love for it to be heavier. It feels way too light and breakable for me right now. Hate that. Also, the triggers are total garbage. Praying Sony ditches those for PS4.
With the dual shock 3, I'd love for it to be heavier. It feels way too light and breakable for me right now. Hate that. Also, the triggers are total garbage. Praying Sony ditches those for PS4.
Sony:
Concave triggers
Move the PS Home button up... it's too cramped between the analog sticks
Concave analog sticks
Wish they'd ditch the segmented design of the d-pad
Microsoft:
USB rechargeable design
Nintendo-quality d-pad
...not much else; really love this controller
Nintendo:
I heard the Pro controller's bumpers don't have any sort of click, which baffles me. Please fix that!
Concave triggers
Move the PS Home button up... it's too cramped between the analog sticks
Concave analog sticks
Wish they'd ditch the segmented design of the d-pad
Microsoft:
USB rechargeable design
Nintendo-quality d-pad
...not much else; really love this controller
Nintendo:
I heard the Pro controller's bumpers don't have any sort of click, which baffles me. Please fix that!
Rickenslacker
Banned
Just turn everything into the Classic Controller Pro (with clickable sticks I guess) and I'm gravy.
Krappadizzle
Member
Had anyone ever played with the first person shooter controller on OG Xbox? That was awesome, it had all the button on the back of the controller where your fingers naturally rest so you never had to take your thumbs off the sticks. I'd love to see a revolution of that.
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