Topher
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I'm aware. I'm talking about internally inside the studio.
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What do Japanese gamers think of Intergalactic? Let's find out
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I'm aware. I'm talking about internally inside the studio.
Generic
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Woke is when lesbians exist.We still have people saying that TLOU2 is not WOKE… Imagine when they receive “indirect messages” or maybe they know, but they don’t want to see their favorite devs being attacked or maybe they are part of the movement.
InterMusketeer
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She doesn't act the part though. Her partner tells her that planet is incredibly dangerous and she doesn't give a fuck. No hesitation, no carefulness, just cocky smugness like an overconfident (and IMO insufferable) teenager. Then she plays a CD and blasts off with a smirk on her face.
Doesn't really set the stage for an emotional and gritty story, but maybe that contrast is intentional as part of the story. But the trailer itself doesn't communicate that at all.
LordOcidax
Member
If you don’t know what the WOKE movement is by this time, i am not going to lose my time with you…
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
Exactly... And make the unique games that you had on PS1 and PS2... Ps3 too.
That is a lesson that it is not what they want, but their audience that must be heard and available.
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LordOfChaos
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In fairness the toxicity was always just human and got unfairly singled out.
Take that in non-reciprocated domestic violence, women are the perpetrators in more than 70% of cases. It's just usually that they can do less damage, but it's not that they have more control to not do it.
Generic
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I know The Last of Us 2 sold 10x more than Stellar Blade.
VulcanRaven
Member
They say in the description that she gets stranded on the planet. Probably because of the overconfidence.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
Based on this premise there is no such thing a a 'strong woman'.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
I would buy it for 15 dollars or less and used.
I'm not going to give my money directly to Druckmann.
If it's good... I doubt it... Otherwise, I'll send it to hell like The last of us part 1 remake and God of war Ragnarok...
I have a PS5, but that doesn't mean I'm going to buy toxic games like Spiderman 2.
winjer
Gold Member
I don't think these modern feminists understand what it is to be a strong men.
They don't understand that a strongmen is someone that works to be better, to provide for his family, to help and protect, to teach and help grow.
I bet most modern day feminists had really bad fathers, abusive, rude and violent. So now that they are adults, that is what they think is a strong man, because that is what they knew when growing up.
Without a proper male role model, they can't understand what it is to be a real man, a gentlemen, a responsible adult.
LordOcidax
Member
The last Pokemon sold 3x than TLOU2 and is a piece of shit technically… That’s doesn’t means is a technical marvel because sales… It sold X amount is not a good defense strategy…
InterMusketeer
Member
Sure, but the argument was that she was some kind of battle hardened veteran which would explain her appearance. That's obviously not the case.
GermanZepp
Member
Understandable. But you have to consider lots of folks like myself who love videogames and have a ps5 were looking forward for some new exclusives. ND is famous for solid gameplay and top notch production values. Even if I totally despise tlou2 story I'm able to tell they put a lot work into it. So granted, they know their craft.all u guys need to chill ur asses.
We dont know anything about the game yet. take it for what it is, if you want to not give a shit about it, thats fine as well.
But hating a product that nobody is forcing u to consume, really isnt worth it.
Play something else, i have alot of fun with PoE2 right now
Wish u all the best, the mental state of some people in here seems to have taken a big hit with that game.
This feels like consciously forced. 'We at ND are liberals and you gonna eat it in our game, we don't make beautiful characters for you chuds, incels and Trump voters, women are not here to be pleasing you'.
I have no doubt there is gonna be some dialog lines a la bigot sandwich.
And the trailer does not bring something else to the table to discuss cause there is no gameplay, no glimpse of mechanics, you don't know if is multiplayer , if it is coop. We had being left with a bald girl who is rendered uglier than the real life model and lots of clichés.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
Member
They've likely had zero father figures in their lives.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Oh someone at the studio will go on an unhinged rant attacking gamers if this game bombs
Drell
Member
Have you met any lesbian in real life? Because I do, and I can swear they are all respectable ordinary women, who do not need to look like men to exist.
reinking
Gold Member
I am trying to figure out how we know this game is woke based off of the small trailer that was released. We see a bald chick that might be lesbian. Is that it? Is that what makes an entire game woke these days?
It very well could be all kinds of woke and it could fail big time. I am fine with that because gamers will have spoken with their wallets. The more agenda driven games that fail, the quicker studios figure out it is not working. However, I haven't really seen evidence that this game is work other than it has a bald female main character. We have had this in movies, TV shows and games in the past that were not pushing a political agenda.
That, or maybe they got me I am already woke....
It very well could be all kinds of woke and it could fail big time. I am fine with that because gamers will have spoken with their wallets. The more agenda driven games that fail, the quicker studios figure out it is not working. However, I haven't really seen evidence that this game is work other than it has a bald female main character. We have had this in movies, TV shows and games in the past that were not pushing a political agenda.
That, or maybe they got me I am already woke....
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Imru’ al-Qays
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Corporate wokeness/DEI is a union-busting strategy that's spiraled out of control. Every sector of the economy with a predominantly young and highly educated workforce is extremely vulnerable to unionization drives due to supermajority support for unions among younger workers.
Diversity initiatives are a proven countermeasure to unions because they destroy class solidarity by replacing the predominant us/them dynamic in the workplace (workers vs bosses) with an infinite number of race/gender/sexuality dynamics that need management-supplied referees to resolve (in management's favor, obviously).
The problem for management is that the costs of maintaining these DEI bureaucracies, both in terms of actual salaries and in terms of effect on the attractiveness of the end product, lower competence of workers, etc has increased to the point that it's probably cheaper to just let your workers unionize. But corporate America hates unions more than it hates woke, so expect this stuff to hold on until it becomes truly untenable.
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HeisenbergFX4
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You obviously haven’t been to a WalMart in the Midwest
This is part of the problem, though.
If the game was releasing with in 1 year, we've have a more solid indication of what the game is offering.
However, since so many companies insist on revealing games years in advance, we can only go by what is initially presented.
Maybe they're testing the waters, before they decide to make changes.
Maybe they are up their own buttholes thinking enough people will cream themselves over announcements of mysterious new product.
Ma-Yuan
Member
Honestly for me it looked like a cheap stupid copy of Guardians of the Galaxy. Just focusing on the main actress is dumb for criticism but i assume this character type wont fly in east or South east asia and well not in the west as well which makes it an incredible stupid business decision.
Senua
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Topher
Identifies as young
I am trying to figure out how we know this game is woke based off of the small trailer that was released. We see a bald chick that might be lesbian. Is that it? Is that what makes an entire game woke these days?
It very well could be all kinds of woke and it could fail big time. I am fine with that because gamers will have spoken with their wallets. The more agenda driven games fail the quicker studios figure out it is not working. However, I haven't really seen evidence that this game is work other than it has a bald female main character. We have had this in movies, TV shows and games in the past that were not pushing a political agenda.
That, or maybe they got me I am already woke....
This is all based entirely on the character design and the fact that it is Naughty Dog, at this point. As I've said before, I don't really have a problem with the character, but I don't love it either. Is this dripping with woke-ism? No, I don't think so. But that is being extrapolated from what is being presented and the overall trend in gaming to make women look more masculine.
You obviously haven’t been to a WalMart in the Midwest
Was about to say.....head to downtown Atlanta and you'll see plenty of lesbians who clearly want to look like men. Not "all" by any stretch, but.....well, you just know when you see them.
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Giallo Corsa
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You're absolutely right about the course correction thing, this has been in development for 4 to 5 years and...it shows, things/average user's mindset has changed since then.
You know what would be the easiest, less time and money consuming method for them ?
Being able to actually customize the hairstyles/brows/make up etc etc and maybe tweak the face model a little bit.
Then again, this is ND we're talking about and Druckman's ego is so big that they won't do that even if they can.
I'm not one to engage in "woke" politics about games but, I think that this will come to bite them in the ass if they don't do even some minor course correction - the fact that they turned off the comments section on their own YT channel says it all really, they KNEW this was coming after the various furores of the past few months (Concord/DA Veilguard etc etc).
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RoboFu
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VulcanRaven
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vpance
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I have nothing against this character but...
Remember when everybody hated the redesign of Cole in Infamous 2 and Sucker Punch ended up changing it back to the original before the release?
Infamous 2's Cole Redesign Shows the Pros and Cons of Player Feedback
Fan backlash from an Infamous 2 trailer caused Sucker Punch Productions to redesign its main hero, which shows how much power players have.gamerant.com
ND should take the L and do the same....
I vaguely remember that. Got damn we loved our bald MCs back then didn't we.
Western dev logic: female beauty = weak, feminine traits = weak, woman = every being that says it belongs to that demographicA Japanese strong independent female character
And this is not attacking the actress doing the mocap for Space Aang from Avatar, because she's objectively pretty, it's just her hair, but that's her body and her choice, her character though, doesn't look quite like her, it's the same case with Aloy and her mocap actress, devs rough up the models to be more like female dudebros or something
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Wolves hunt in packs
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I am trying to figure out how we know this game is woke based off of the small trailer that was released. We see a bald chick that might be lesbian. Is that it? Is that what makes an entire game woke these days?
It very well could be all kinds of woke and it could fail big time. I am fine with that because gamers will have spoken with their wallets. The more agenda driven games that fail, the quicker studios figure out it is not working. However, I haven't really seen evidence that this game is work other than it has a bald female main character. We have had this in movies, TV shows and games in the past that were not pushing a political agenda.
That, or maybe they got me I am already woke....
Agree, I'm against all this woke nonsense and the Hogwarts Legacy situation was one of the low points i've ever seen in gaming, but also not rushed to dislike anything starting a woman, the MC isn't the coolest but not awful imo, don't see any forced agenda, but how could i from a short trailer, i can totally understand people not liking the MC design btw, but i need to see more before judging.
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near
Gold Member
A mod finally had enough of mibu's passive aggressive replies. Intergalactic is breaking people over a teaser trailer lmao.
Plague Doctor
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Drell
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Sorry I don't live in america.You obviously haven’t been to a WalMart in the Midwest
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The Fartist
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Nickolaidas
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Here? Or RetardEra?
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
lol what?
I will even give you some extreme examples. lol
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
How about woman in the special forces around the world!
The Fartist
Gold Member
Do those exist?
Hypereides
Member
Goes to show the west wasn't the only side that had an apprehensive and perplexed reaction.
In any case, if the deal goes through, Hulst better keep his fingers off From Software, Acquire and Spike ChunSoft. Someone on the Japanese side of things needs to be manage them.
I get the feeling, that with the way things are going, a PS organizational reshuffle/restructuring is near and they will turn the ship around eventually.
In any case, if the deal goes through, Hulst better keep his fingers off From Software, Acquire and Spike ChunSoft. Someone on the Japanese side of things needs to be manage them.
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