UnluckyKate
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"What If Only Black People Had Superpowers?" - Comic Kickstarter for "BLACK"
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Hollywood white washing again
I can link to Khary Randolf's DeviantArt
Is this super hero cosplay then?
Dude, your username is ironic as all fuck. Like, wow.
Well, possibly. It would depend on how the story is approached. Stories about a race of superman are very old in science fiction. What matters if the approach, using super powers as a way to tell a story about people being feared for being different is very common.
If the story had something interesting to say, or was just entertaining, people would probably be fine with it.
Teriyaki Blues
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In for 25.
I'm not ok with a comic book where part of the story is that black people are genetically superior to white people, just as I wouldn't be ok with a comic book where white race defines superiority.
Aaronology
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To be perfectly fair to TheDanger, I can understand this sentiment. His posts aren't doing him any favors, though.
If the story is well told I don't think there is a huge issue. It will still make some people uncomfortable no matter how tactful and intelligently its handled but that's on them by that point.
There are tons of stories outside of comics that deal with things such as racial genetic superiority. Hell one of the big theme's of the Dune series is breeding genetic supermen through eugenics and the like and people like the Fremen who have lived on such a harsh and dangerous planet that they've "evolved" to be much tougher, stronger, etc. than the normal human and happen to be Buddhist Muslims.
Zomba13
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This sounds interesting.
Not really. Could have super villains that have their "powers" be from science/tech. Stuff like Iron Man or Lex Luthor where they don't really have powers apart from being rich and really smart.
Not really. Could have super villains that have their "powers" be from science/tech. Stuff like Iron Man or Lex Luthor where they don't really have powers apart from being rich and really smart.
Thatonemoor
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Man this thread is going places.
On Topic: I think the concept sounds interesting, could turn out to be trash if executed poorly. Will have to look into it later.
On Topic: I think the concept sounds interesting, could turn out to be trash if executed poorly. Will have to look into it later.
You realize this is the reality we are currently living in? Replace comic book with...the world.
Forearm Star
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Was wondering if this thread would go to shit...
soundscream
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Dude seems to have some personal issues with race, or might be a bit naive. Or a combo of both. But not his first time.
Is my dumb joke insensitive? I'm sorry if it is, wasn't my intention.
Apology accepted, just be careful with that type of stuff. Like, really careful.Is my dumb joke insensitive? I'm sorry if it is, wasn't my intention.
michaelius
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Sounds cool that's the diversity in media we should support not swapping genders and races of existing heroes by fake reboots and successors.
Don't you mean Michael Jackson?
As for your reference, did Psylocke switch again? Yeah, she was originally white, tho the character has been Japanese since the 90's. At least she was the last time I read comics.
We just can't win, man.
They're an isolationist nation. People from all over the world visit Wakanda, many of them scholars and scientists, politicians rarely, superheros from time to time, villains almost never.
But you don't have to do more than take a cursory glance at real world history to figure out why any African country doing well for itself might not want anything to do with the rest of the world.
The first time I heard of black face was two or three years ago when it was shown on German tv and some people on twitter said it was racist but the channel defended themselves and then the discussion just went away.
Again, sorry.
I'm just saying fiction where the oppressed race is superior doesn't help racism or equality, it only aids segregation, that is my opinion.
We're going to force you to read it anyway. There's nothing you can do to stop it.
He just seems very off key overall. That black friend thread he posted in the context of his posts so far in this one are hilarious.
You woke my righteous fury up.
They should also teach about how Seneca Village was destroyed to make the most famous park in the country if not world.
Angelus Errare
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That's how it always is, it's the fake "progressiveism" America loves patting itself on the back for.
- Marginalize groups of people from media
- Said people ask for inclusion in media
- Get panties in a wrinkle about PC or ruining the creative vision and other such nonsense
- Suggest marginalized groups make their own content.
- Group makes own content
- Cue cries about segregation and double standard and if they did it it would be a problem.
- Insert nonsense about not seeing color/utopia/"we're all equal/human".
Repeat the cycle ad nauseam.
It affects black people the most because Americans want to be Black as in they want to consume everything that is black, but they don't want the black people that come with it. They want us to be seen not heard, which is why these same complaints aren't levied against Asian Americans or Latino Americans who do their own thing.
It opens up a lot of interesting avenues for story telling though. It's basically been the X-Men's thing for half a century. The people the world fears will be the bigger (wo)men and protect them even if they're feared and hated. The character synopsis on the page sound pretty similar.
There's nothing wrong with using race in fiction to tell an interesting story. The best fiction often tells us something about how the author sees the world.
Would you mind listing some examples of these works you feel support segregation and don't help with the idea of equality?
I never read much of Black Panther really so my knowledge on him and Wakanda isn't great. Was just curious how this was handled in the comics especially knowing Marvel wasn't always the most tactful about race relations.
DontBeThatGuy
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I bet he's "colorblind", doesn't' see race, and if we just ignored it, all these issues would just go away.
Thelonelykoopa
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I have no idea how this comic book will go. Did they always have super powers or did every black person woke up with them suddenly. Are the super powers useful and or world conquering(ie superman levels) or are they really not that strong and is just an reason for them to be discrimated against. What about mixed race individuals; are issues like people trying to have sex with them so their children have super powers going to be discussed?Does this take place in a simlar universe to ours?is their a kryptonite? This could be interesting social commentary or absolutely awful.
LookAtMeGo
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If your concerned about increasing segregation, this comic should be the least of your concerns. Its a fucking comic. Oh no! White people get left out of having super powers in a comic book. Its not fair! I wonder how many people that get upset over this voice their concerns over the issues black people face on a daily basis in real life. I'm willing to bet not a whole lot. But you leave white people out of having super powers in a comic and they'll shout at the top of their lungs about the injustice being served. Just my opinion.
Messofanego
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Megaton!
Hope it's as amazing in execution a diversity push as Ms Marvel/Kamala Khan.
Hope it's as amazing in execution a diversity push as Ms Marvel/Kamala Khan.
So the X-Men?
They make billions and billions and billions of dollars a year?
Coffee Dog
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Kind of? He's either a racist or someone who can't stop reiterating racist talking points. We don't need to coddle him.
Gordon Shumway
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ShadowSwordmaster
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And it's only the first day.
The world is just trying to catch up to nerds since we rule the world now.
Messofanego
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Good point.
The same reason people were obsessed with them 60 years ago.
family_guy
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If you're not black you can still buy and enjoy the book.
Captin Quacker
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this is the punchline that gets me
they want dam near everything to do with black culture minus the people
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