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"What If Only Black People Had Superpowers?" - Comic Kickstarter for "BLACK"
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Shamrock7r
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Comic industry still 20 steps ahead of other visual mediums in diversity
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Every. Time.
Creator wise, but character wise they do 10x better than most would think
No. In this story, black people are still an oppressed group. The Nazi's were oppressors. His view isn't malicious, it's idiotic, and you're not doing yourself any favors arguing on his behalf.
Kid Kamikaze10
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God I hate that comparison. It's a massive disservice to both X and MLK, especially Malcolm.
Shamrock7r
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Definitely. Not everything sticks but they try
Kid Kamikaze10
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If we're talking away from the Marvel/DC side of things? Yeah, sure.
Shamrock7r
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Even Marvel and DC have made many efforts to diversify their main superhero line of comics
Really? Thank god for infinite crisis.
They definitely have my attention, here's hoping they nail the execution.
Also, this thread reminded me of the lameness that there is STILL no proper way to purchase Static Shock on DVD/Bluray, and the character still isn't around in comics nowadays IIRC (I think there MAY have been a question of rights issues to be fair, though). Though in a positive note, this prompted me to check Amazon, and apparently the classic Static stuff IS getting a much needed reprint finally!
Also, this thread reminded me of the lameness that there is STILL no proper way to purchase Static Shock on DVD/Bluray, and the character still isn't around in comics nowadays IIRC (I think there MAY have been a question of rights issues to be fair, though). Though in a positive note, this prompted me to check Amazon, and apparently the classic Static stuff IS getting a much needed reprint finally!
A Link to the Past
Banned
I'm really annoyed by the fact that I can't afford to contribute!!
(does anyone wanna contribute for me? It was my birthday yesterday :VVV)
Because making black people and only black people super-powered works to create an analogue between X-Men, inFAMOUS, etc. which both tell stories of marginalized people (except instead of non-white, gay, or trans, they're superpowered). In doing so, it might create an understanding through these connections. It's also a metaphor for being black in America, where many people identify you as being dangerous simply because of the colour of your skin, and in this case, you're dangerous because you're superpowered. If the roles were reversed, we wouldn't see a reverse situation - white people would be superpowered, therefore superpowers would be acceptable. Any white superpowered criminal is not representative of all white people, because why would any white person choose to associate with that person?
(does anyone wanna contribute for me? It was my birthday yesterday :VVV)
Because making black people and only black people super-powered works to create an analogue between X-Men, inFAMOUS, etc. which both tell stories of marginalized people (except instead of non-white, gay, or trans, they're superpowered). In doing so, it might create an understanding through these connections. It's also a metaphor for being black in America, where many people identify you as being dangerous simply because of the colour of your skin, and in this case, you're dangerous because you're superpowered. If the roles were reversed, we wouldn't see a reverse situation - white people would be superpowered, therefore superpowers would be acceptable. Any white superpowered criminal is not representative of all white people, because why would any white person choose to associate with that person?
May I ask what magical place that isn't racist are you from?
xKilltheMx
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Somewhere in europe where all europeans claim there is no racism.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Probably France which has a disproportionately high Muslim prison population
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Lol Austria
Everyone, it's in your best interest to just ignore him. He's shown before that he doesn't want to understand anything about race relations or context, he just wants to complain.
im not here to gain favors and be friends with everyone. im also not here to dogpile on someone just because hes naive. (not idiotic)
idiotic would be catigorizing someone, just because he doesn't have the same view on things, with something malicious (for example a racist)
but what do i care, go on with dogpiling on someone who has no ill intent and thinks we are all the same (if what he says is the truth).
I said his view was idiotic. His "opinion." His argument. I didn't comment on him as a person or his intent.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Ah
So he's a race baiter
(also I love your avatar lol)
What he's doing is expressing an opinion and, when told many times how wrong he is, and when given reason after reason as to how wrong he is, he doubles down. He chooses to ignore any perspective that does not align with his own, regardless of how uninformed and ignorant his own perspective truly is.
Coffee Dog
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There's nothing wrong with dogpiling on dumb ass shit
if he has any sense he'll realize that what he did was wrong and learn from it. if not, he'll keep saying dumb shit and get ignored/banned. shaming works
Does Uber count as that?
ROFL
yes, it does.
who publishes this dreck?! (we all know who would buy this)
edit: the illustrator name. xDDD i can't.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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By the way, this is the thread that got TheDanger sent to the kid's table
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1163828
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1163828
Where do the literal hundreds of years oppression of black people fit in your context argument?
Hes not naive. He's aggressively ignorant. He said something about a double standard between whites and blacks in another thread. Several people laid before him in clear terms why it shouldnt be considered a double standard (can't recall the specific issue) and he continued to basically repeat "but but X is what I believe so I'll go with that even if it has no basis in reality."
February is already delivering...
...in spades
YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
Or the X-Men for the first twelve years of its existence, in which there were no non-white mutants.
Or the Legion of Super-Heroes where for the first eighteen years, there were no black people with super powers. Blue and orange, sure, but not black.
But this is just over the line, apparently.
Coffee Dog
Banned
exactly
there are different standards for different races. What is okay for one race to say may not be okay for another race to say. White supremacy is something that can't be encouraged in any way because it actually results in physical harm to people and has for hundreds of years.
detective gaf doing the good work
Nazis aren't suppressed in their book.Does Uber count as that?
Faynwulf
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Apparently the face of a white supremacist.
edit: People should read the comic before they judge it by the cover.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Hey, it was only a month ago. No need for insults-_-
Actually, the artist Canaan white is black
Apparently the story isn't pro-Nazi like it might seem but I can't bring myself to buy it.
Coffee Dog
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Well to be fair, this is something entirely different. It wears its racial elements on its sleeve and has made clear that the racial makeup of the book is very much intentional and key to the stated goals of the book, as opposed to simply having an all white cast for no real reason.
lol sssssssh
It's ok . I'll never buy Spiderman Loves Mary Jane nor MJ lovea Spiderman.I don't want to accidentally change my world view or something.Actually, the artist Canaan white is black
Apparently the story isn't pro-Nazi like it might seem but I can't bring myself to buy it.
nowhere, i think in his view is basicaly: products we create for the future (including media) should be equal to everyone. he disconnects what happened for the sake of gaining equality. now he sees that the other side is portrayed as the pinacle of dna. which in itself is nazirhetoric.
you guys aren't looking at his point of view and hes not looking at your point of view.
(i do understand what he is trying to say tough, we learn that we are all equal in school, it gets hammered in since our childhood... we germans (and [austrians] fucked up if you can remember)
like i said, i think hes just naive because of the disconnect he makes. not malicious, nor racist.
basically his view.
-we are all qual, media where one race is portrayed as better and the other as evil, shouldn't exist
your view.
-we were opressed for hundreds of years and are still opressed in a mostly white world with mostly white media.
hope this is coherent :S
well, can't say i've seen that coming
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
This isn't my thing personally, but anyone actually getting upset about this should step back and examine themselves
A Link to the Past
Banned
But he's consistently rejecting all explanations. We can't have equal media before we have equal society. Further, the genetic superiority situation is all moot. I've seen legitimately unintelligent white people - like, "dropped out of high school, have a poor understanding of proper English, can't do basic math" white people - refer to Obama as if he was of subhuman intelligence. So pretty much, that superpower that a black person has, to a white person is actually just a really elaborate gun and reason enough that that black person is simply too dangerous to live in white society. They don't care about genetic superiority - and often in these stories they're characterized as freaks or mutants rather than the advancement of humanity.
Angelus Errare
Banned
So covert vs overt.
This actually looks really interesting.
Coffee Dog
Banned
In their respective exclusions of diversity, yes, though I think that's unfairly reductive of how each of those stories use the races of the cast. X-Men isn't in any way about being a white person, despite having a white cast; BLACK is very clearly about being a black person and addresses the black experience in america.
SmackDaddy
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TheDanger, you are not a supporter of equality based on your posts. Get it through your thick skull and move on.
What a dope idea. I'll check it out when it gets made
What a dope idea. I'll check it out when it gets made
Panthalassic
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It's a webcomic, so you can check it out first if you want. Publishing is super important to artists though, so even though I'm all caught up, I'm definitely going to support Mildred in her work.
Also gotta support my fellow Caribbean folk
Cizeta-Moroder
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IrishNinja
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this sounds interesting, and whatever analog they use for FOX on there is gonna be a hoot, too
fam, who's in your avatar this time? phew
fam, who's in your avatar this time? phew
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