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[FunkyMunkey]

Wait.

So you´re implying that the player cannot grow to feel for npcs or care for the ingame-world if there are no cutscenes? Well, you´re 100% wrong.

No, but hating on something that does nothing but HELP with the bolded is strange.

 

[wRATH2x]

God does my asshole know.

...

Awkward.

Not in the least my lovely baboon.

 

[Vizion28]

I'm a little worried. Iwata wants this game out by the end of this year which probably means they rushing at least some aspects of the game. I rather see the game released when it is ready. Spirits Tracks had to meet a deadline and from what I've read it not one of best Zelda games.

I'm probably worrying about nothing. But if the game is delayed I wouldn't mind.

 

[[Nintex]]

I'm a little worried. Iwata wants this game out by the end of this year which probably means they rushing at least some aspects of the game. I rather see the game released when it is ready. Spirits Tracks had to meet a deadline and from what I've read it not one of best Zelda games.

I'm probably worrying about nothing. But if the game is delayed I wouldn't mind.

They've already worked four years on this game if it comes out next year than something must've gone horribly wrong

 

[Version 3.0]

I love sketchy art. It appeals to me much more than perfect lines.

Now, I will grant that the proportions are (sometimes horrifically) off, but it's mostly the colors that make it good for me. The TP pic you posted is just like one large gradient from orange to blue-green to blue-black. It's more like a blob of art than a specific thing.

Addendum: I love TP art. I think you just picked a bad one to make your point. d:

I won't argue on the technical aspects of your analysis. Yes it hasn't been gone through with photoshop ten times, or even drawn with all proper proportions etc, but for me art is about invoking a mood or feeling, and I feel that these less technical drawings convey this successfully. The poster you added is indeed well done, but really doesn't get much flowing in terms of sparking emotion, imagination or grabbing any empathy out of me for the piece. You seem pretty astute with art and I do respect your position, but I can't agree on future art from him being trash.

Well, enough about that, eh? I'll bet even with our bickering over the art, we can agree that it would be fantastic to have another cel-shaded (console) Zelda where Link looks like Link, whether that's this:

or this:

or this:

What do you say?

 

[beelzebozo]

i say that last'n is link showin' a little too much leg for my comfort

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Not in the least my lovely baboon.

I meant for everyone else.

If I felt shame... well I wouldn't post like I do.

Well, enough about that, eh? I'll bet even with our bickering over the art, we can agree that it would be fantastic to have another cel-shaded (console) Zelda where Link looks like Link, whether that's this:

or this:

or this:

What do you say?

I say the sentiment is shared by me.

I love Nintendo's take on cel-shading.

i say that last'n is link showin' a little too much leg for my comfort

Boy just ain't right.

*sips beer*

 

[selig]

i say that last'n is link showin' a little too much leg for my comfort

And first Link...is wearing skin-tight leather :lol

 

[TunaLover]

Windfall Island was a better town that all of the towns in TP put together.

That was the only one resembling a town actually.

 

[wRATH2x]

Well, enough about that, eh? I'll bet even with our bickering over the art, we can agree that it would be fantastic to have another cel-shaded (console) Zelda where Link looks like Link, whether that's this:

or this:

or this:

What do you say?

I'll take the second one. The first one kind of annoys me for whatever reason, and the last one is pretty similar to the first.

In the end I'll still choose the OOT/MM art style, I used to look through the booklets for those games all the time.

 

[WillyFive]

It would be nice to see the second one, but the third one is cooler, since the shading would look better gameplay wise, and would actually be possible for the Wii to do.

The legs are so 90's however.....

 

[[Nintex]]

Link's boots are way too large, wtf

 

[AceBandage]

Link's boots are way too large, wtf

They're adventurin' boots.

 

[WillyFive]

Link's boots are way too large, wtf

Not at all.

 

[Dascu]

Been browsing some Zelda art.

Two notes:
- I would be scared as shit if that thing suddenly emerged out of a river. It does kind of look like it's a dude in a suit though.
- Link looks awfully feminine. Short skirt isn't helping.

 

[The Technomancer]

:lol :lol :lol at those WW comics. Only 8 am by me and my day has already been made.

 

[Princess Skittles]

I'm really glad that Nintendo (typically) just does their own thing.. if they listened to feedback from "fans," we'd have RPG Maker quality plot in Zelda games.

"Ganon mass murders a village and Link has to take rage revenge."

It's just.. it's just SO painful.

:lol

 

[Scythesurge]

Been browsing some Zelda art.

Two notes:
- I would be scared as shit if that thing suddenly emerged out of a river. It does kind of look like it's a dude in a suit though.
- Link looks awfully feminine. Short skirt isn't helping.

That is scary!

 

[Empty]

Man i hope they "Mario Galaxy" this game. Do what it did to the Mario series with that game, but to Zelda this time. So, make it so it feels simultaneously fresh and nostalgic; evoking both wonder at the completely new and memories of the feeling you had playing older zelda games for the first time. Make it so that it bridges together design approaches from multiple schools in the series, yet combines them with enough of the new in its own superbly realized theme and approach, that it it's own, clear, unique, identifiable whole. Then add massive amounts of imagination and creative game design elements, while making it still feel like Zelda, polish it to perfection, add wonderful presentation, and bingo.

They might not quite deliver on that, but i'm looking forward to seeing what they do make, and of course the reactions and meltdowns that will inevitably follow the showing. I'm personally not too worried, the series is so consistently excellent, that whatever they do with this next console entry, i'm sure it will be a real pleasure to play.

 

[AceBandage]

I'm really glad that Nintendo (typically) just does their own thing.. if they listened to feedback from "fans," we'd have RPG Maker quality plot in Zelda games.

"Ganon mass murders a village and Link has to take rage revenge."

It's just.. it's just SO painful.

:lol

And Link said "No Gannon, you are the ghost." And Gannon became a ghost.

 

[Dascu]

I'm really glad that Nintendo (typically) just does their own thing.. if they listened to feedback from "fans," we'd have RPG Maker quality plot in Zelda games.

"Ganon mass murders a village and Link has to take rage revenge."

It's just.. it's just SO painful.

:lol

Or even worse, making you play as Zelda or something. I don't want to play as some stupid girl!

Spoiler

Just kidding in case it wasn't clear!

 

[selig]

Man i hope they "Mario Galaxy" this game. Do what it did to the Mario series with that game, but to Zelda this time.

So, take everything from previous games and make it into the best? That happened with TP already. I want something new. The Mario-series will have the same problems now that we got 2 Galaxy-style games.

 

[Hot Coldman]

:lol Those Wind Waker comics are great.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

So, take everything from previous games and make it into the best? That happened with TP already. I want something new. The Mario-series will have the same problems now that we got 2 Galaxy-style games.

Oh please ...

 

[Nachkebia]

Been browsing some Zelda art.

http://i.imgur.com/tLikY.jpg[/IMhG]

Two notes:
- I would be scared as shit if that thing suddenly emerged out of a river. It does kind of look like it's a dude in a suit though.
- Link looks awfully feminine. Short skirt isn't helping.[/QUOTE]

id hit it

 

[selig]

Oh please ...

Im not saying that TP is the best Zelda-game, but it took everything from past games and polished it. Which was exactly its mistake. It felt like a very constructed game instead of a lively experience. Worked better for Mario due to the Mario-franchise´s random nature in terms of level design, not so much for Zelda.

 

[Haunted]

- Link looks awfully feminine. Short skirt isn't helping.

You know, there's a reason why so many Link cosplayers are female. :lol

 

[Empty]

So, take everything from previous games and make it into the best? That happened with TP already. I want something new. The Mario-series will have the same problems now that we got 2 Galaxy-style games.

No, as Galaxy did more than just that. TP forgot to fuse taking the best from the previous games with totally new elements, like how Galaxy used the space theme for brilliant gravity puzzles and the planetoid hopping level design that helped make it feel very fresh.

 

[wRATH2x]

You know, there's a reason why so many Link cosplayers are female. :lol

I feel weird.

 

[Nostalgic Nightmare]

Well, enough about that, eh? I'll bet even with our bickering over the art, we can agree that it would be fantastic to have another cel-shaded (console) Zelda where Link looks like Link, whether that's this:

or this:

or this:

What do you say?

Indeed, bickering and opinions aside, I would take any of those be it more realistic or cel shaded. It's funny, I can remember being young and trying to draw that exact first picture of link you posted.

 

[Why would you do that?]

I have no idea why I didn't realize this before, but...

You know how Mario was designed with the limitations of the hardware in mind? With only 3 colors, overalls, big nose, and a mustache so that you could see his arms, shirt, face, and whatever?

Link was also designed like that. Arms are separate color from his body, his head is the same color as his body, only 3 colors, shield has his colors, etc...

 

[Azelover]

I love reading about people's expectations, if it's anything like what people are imagining then Nintendo will fail because they can't live up to everybody's wishes. The only way they could succeed is by going with a completely new direction, but without taking away the mythos, and I think they know it.

I'm still thinking semi-flat polygoned art style or slight variations with old link is gonna be the thing that unites everyone.

 

[Twig]

Im not saying that TP is the best Zelda-game, but it took everything from past games and polished it.

Except the overworld, which is basically the biggest problem with it.

Well, and the slow beginning, but that's attributable to Nintendo's idiotic tendency to assume its players are complete morons. Hopefully the Guide shit will allow them more freedom to challenge players, like it did with Galaxy 2. I:

Well, enough about that, eh? I'll bet even with our bickering over the art, we can agree that it would be fantastic to have another cel-shaded (console) Zelda where Link looks like Link, whether that's this:

or this:

or this:

What do you say?

YES PLEASE

(any and all (though you do realize the second piece is by Terada just like the stuff you criticized before, right? d)

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I love reading about people's expectations, if it's anything like what people are imagining then Nintendo will fail because they can't live up to everybody's wishes. The only way they could succeed is by going with a completely new direction, but without taking away the mythos, and I think they know it.

I'm still thinking semi-flat polygoned art style or slight variations with old link is gonna be the thing that unites everyone.

Dude. There's NO WAY I'm going to get a Zelda game that's basically like Zelda NES where Link is thrown into an environment with no hand-holding and you can complete the dungeons in any order. All I really care about is that the game's structure and gameplay changes. Something that doesn't feel like a rehash from all the 3D Zeldas...........well, MM was the creative 3D Zelda game.

 

[upandaway]

Dude. There's NO WAY I'm going to get a Zelda game that's basically like Zelda NES where Link is thrown into an environment with no hand-holding and you can complete the dungeons in any order. All I really care about is that the game's structure and gameplay changes. Something that doesn't feel like a rehash from all the 3D Zeldas...........well, MM was the creative 3D Zelda game.

Shh don't tell him! He's supposed to think you're a retard who declares ridiculous expectations seriously without any regard to their possibility of happening.

For a while now people have been knocking other people in the thread of setting themselves up to this HUGE disappointment. But these people are just posting about their dream game, not actually expecting any of it.

Edit: sorry I had a rough couple hours

 

[Twig]

Shh don't tell him! He's supposed to think you're a retard who declares ridiculous expectations seriously without any regard to their possibility of happening.

For a while now people have been knocking other people in the thread of setting themselves up to this HUGE disappointment. But these people are just posting about their dream game, not actually expecting any of it.

Edit: sorry I had a rough couple hours

Exactly.

It's amazing how few of the naysayers understand this!

I have no doubt I will probably enjoy whatever game they release. That doesn't mean it's my dream game.

 

[Tathanen]

: D

 

[Boney]

Some people seem to forget that the only 3d Zelda's that really have the same structure is OoT and TP. Go play WW and tell me it's the same exact structure.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

Posting my favorite from the Wind Waker 4-koma thing:

 

[snesfreak]

I can remember being young and trying to draw that exact first picture of link you posted.

I used to do that too.

 

[The Lamonster]

I feel weird.

 

[Varjet]

Some people seem to forget that the only 3d Zelda's that really have the same structure is OoT and TP. Go play WW and tell me it's the same exact structure.

WW is OoT with a boat.

 

[Dascu]

WW is OoT with a boat.

It mixed it up a bit.

OoT was 3 dungeons for 3 stones > 5 dungeons for 5 sages > final dungeon.
WW was Forsaken Fortress > 2 dungeons for 3 stones > Forsaken Fortress repeat > Tower of Gods > 2 dungeons for 2 sages > triforce quest > final dungeon.

It takes a while before you actually get into your first real dungeon. Then once you get all 3 pearls, there's a lot of stand-alone dungeons and areas (like old Hyrule Castle) before you get to the next set of big dungeons. Then of course the Triforce quest which was a whole different kind of beast.

 

[Varjet]

It mixed it up a bit.

OoT was 3 dungeons for 3 stones > 7 dungeons for 7 sages > final dungeon.
WW was Forsaken Fortress > 2 dungeons for 3 stones > Forsaken Fortress repeat > Tower of Gods > 2 dungeons for 2 sages > triforce quest > final dungeon.

So basically it has less dungeons and the triforce quest. Awesome.

 

[Boney]

It mixed it up a bit.

OoT was 3 dungeons for 3 stones > 7 dungeons for 7 sages > final dungeon.
WW was Forsaken Fortress > 2 dungeons for 3 stones > Forsaken Fortress repeat > Tower of Gods > 2 dungeons for 2 sages > triforce quest > final dungeon.

It takes a while before you actually get into your first real dungeon. Then once you get all 3 pearls, there's a lot of stand-alone dungeons and areas (like old Hyrule Castle) before you get to the next set of big dungeons. Then of course the Triforce quest which was a whole different kind of beast.

So basically it has less dungeons and the triforce quest. Awesome.

The structure is still shaken up. You're expecting to get 3 dungeons for the 3 pearls and the storm comes and goes overly dramatic. Forsaken Fortress 2.0 and Tower of the Gods right away in succesion. And of course the triforce hunt can be started right away.

Sure some of the shakes up are because of some rushed content, and of course it has to share similarities, because that's what Nintendo feels makes Zelda, Zelda.

But it can't be argued that it did things different, and really well made changes until triforce hunt.

 

[Dascu]

So basically it has less dungeons and the triforce quest. Awesome.

I'm not arguing that it has better design than OoT (well, it does.), but just responding to your statement that it has the same design, which isn't true.

Oh, seems I made a small mistake. OoT only has 5 dungeons for teen Link, not 7.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Decent looking women, but I'd dump either one's ass if they dressed up like Link. :lol

 

[Prime Blue]

All of the 3D games so far followed the overworld-dungeon-overworld-dungeon scheme. The only fundamental difference between them is that OoT and TP constantly take your hand in the beginning and want to show you how to play. TWW didn't have this at the start as much, and MM to an even lesser degree – they both feel more like you're thrown into the game.

 

[The Lamonster]

Decent looking women, but I'd dump either one's ass if they dressed up like Link. :lol

You have eleven thousand posts on a gaming message board.

 

[methodman]

Decent looking women, but I'd dump either one's ass if they dressed up like Link. :lol

Exactly. Link wearing tights? I always liked the Link with no tights, if my bitch wearing tights gtfo.