Where Ya Curly Mustaches At?! Marvel vs Capcom 3 Hype Thread of Scoops!
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DAY 1!!! (If done right).
I was never a big fighting game player. I played the SF2 variations and Mortal Kombat when I was younger, but that was about it. I picked up SF2 HD Remix last summer out of nostalgia and started having a lot of fun with it...then MvC2 came out. Never played it when it was originally out, but I absolutely love it now. I imagine there are a ton of people like me out there that took the chance on MvC2 at $15 despite never being into it when it was originally released. With a renewed (increased?) fan-base, now is definitely the time to strike while MvC2 is hot.
Here are my hopes/predictions:
- I absolutely love, and prefer, 2D sprites in fighting games, but there is little doubt in my mind that the game is going to be "2.5D." I think the 2.5D look is now preferable to the majority of gamers, and I may be ignorant in saying this, but it seems like it would be less time-consuming to create a large amount of 3D characters than draw an incredible number of sprites.
- In my mind, to stay true to the MvC2 precedent, you have got to have an incredibly large roster. Dump the stupid characters than nobody uses, fill them with useful characters, and create some semblance of balance. MvC2's roster is reduced to like 20 characters if you are playing any sort of serious game, which makes a 50+ character roster useless. Maybe somewhere around 40-50 decently balanced characters.
- It's got to go big like MvC2 did. It has to have an increased level of speed compared to the typical fighter, big combos, and crazy hyper combos. And like MvC2, it has to do this while making execution relatively easy to pick up.
- Characters: As a casual fan of games/comics, I need to see the big name, recognizable characters in there. Otherwise, on a base level, I have a tough time connecting to the game. But once that is fulfilled, it would be nice to have some variety in there. Less X-men, less Street Fighters, and more of the characters from Capcom/Marvel IPs that are becoming more recognizable. I felt MvC2 did a pretty decent job of this, but there were some definite holes you could point to.
- I can't be the only one going crazy imagining what teams I would use with all the hypothetical new characters that this game could have, am I? I would have a tough time not choosing a team of Dante/Deadpool/Wesker. DMC's Vergil could be really awesome too.
I was never a big fighting game player. I played the SF2 variations and Mortal Kombat when I was younger, but that was about it. I picked up SF2 HD Remix last summer out of nostalgia and started having a lot of fun with it...then MvC2 came out. Never played it when it was originally out, but I absolutely love it now. I imagine there are a ton of people like me out there that took the chance on MvC2 at $15 despite never being into it when it was originally released. With a renewed (increased?) fan-base, now is definitely the time to strike while MvC2 is hot.
Here are my hopes/predictions:
- I absolutely love, and prefer, 2D sprites in fighting games, but there is little doubt in my mind that the game is going to be "2.5D." I think the 2.5D look is now preferable to the majority of gamers, and I may be ignorant in saying this, but it seems like it would be less time-consuming to create a large amount of 3D characters than draw an incredible number of sprites.
- In my mind, to stay true to the MvC2 precedent, you have got to have an incredibly large roster. Dump the stupid characters than nobody uses, fill them with useful characters, and create some semblance of balance. MvC2's roster is reduced to like 20 characters if you are playing any sort of serious game, which makes a 50+ character roster useless. Maybe somewhere around 40-50 decently balanced characters.
- It's got to go big like MvC2 did. It has to have an increased level of speed compared to the typical fighter, big combos, and crazy hyper combos. And like MvC2, it has to do this while making execution relatively easy to pick up.
- Characters: As a casual fan of games/comics, I need to see the big name, recognizable characters in there. Otherwise, on a base level, I have a tough time connecting to the game. But once that is fulfilled, it would be nice to have some variety in there. Less X-men, less Street Fighters, and more of the characters from Capcom/Marvel IPs that are becoming more recognizable. I felt MvC2 did a pretty decent job of this, but there were some definite holes you could point to.
- I can't be the only one going crazy imagining what teams I would use with all the hypothetical new characters that this game could have, am I? I would have a tough time not choosing a team of Dante/Deadpool/Wesker. DMC's Vergil could be really awesome too.
JonnyAvacado
Neo Member
Segata Sanshiro said:
This is completely right. Having gone through all of those eras, every one of those examples follows suit.
corrosivefrost
Member
Wishlist (not including most returning from previous roster... [Strider, Ryu/Ken/Akuma, etc.]):
Dante
Nero
Talbain
Demitri
Deadpool
Dante
Nero
Talbain
Demitri
Deadpool
sixteen-bit
Member
Why should the game be more complex?DRock said:Bring back 6 buttons
I loved TvC's contextual "light, medium, hard" approach much better than MvC1
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Oh I just realized they really have no excuse to bring Thor this time around. Spiderwoman also.
lol at well balanced 40-50 characters prediction. That aint happening.
lol at well balanced 40-50 characters prediction. That aint happening.
sixteen-bit
Member
Tekken 6 with it's relatively balanced 44-character roster says such a thing is feasible, but yeah I dunno about a vs. game. It's nice to dream though.Raging Spaniard said:
Balance talk in a MvC thread? Thats like talking about Sonic color eyes!! :lol
MvC2 was a failure on the competitive scene due to his poor balance amirite?
SF III: 3rd Strike was a failure on the competitive scene due to his poor balance amirite?
Balance is overrated bitches!
MvC2 was a failure on the competitive scene due to his poor balance amirite?
SF III: 3rd Strike was a failure on the competitive scene due to his poor balance amirite?
Balance is overrated bitches!
BurritoBushido
Member
Dante and the Gym teacher from Rival schools and I am set
sixteen-bit
Member
this is pretty true.Fersis said:
If they aren't going to make an attempt at balance, I agree with you that I'd love for Capcom to just go all out with the number of characters.Draft said:
But if they are going to go with a more moderate amount of characters, It'd be nice to have some semblance of balance so that the roster isn't effectively halved if you want to play a serious game. There is a pretty large percentage of the MvC2 roster that I've never seen anyone use because those characters are so bad. I don't mind there being "tiers", but compress those tiers so that a greater amount of characters are actually usable.
sixteen-bit
Member
so you want 100 characters with 2D artEYEL1NER said:
i guess they could always reuse some more Alpha and Vamipre sprites
jecclr2003
Banned
_dementia said:
Dont tell me you think MvC2 is "complex"....
Raging Spaniard
If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
_dementia said:
Tekken 6 doesnt have a lot of new faces though, and the system wasnt toootally different. For this game theyre kinda starting from scratch, and its hard to make a lot of new characters, have a large 40+ roster, and keep it balanced.
sotodefonk
Member
hell yes, MvC2 is probably the fighter I played the most on arcades, its incredibly fun in versus mode with friend and/or random people at arcades.
I just hope it has a good online without lag and Im sold
I just hope it has a good online without lag and Im sold
Was TvC not 2.5D with a whole bunch of filters/effects on top? That's awesome too.EYEL1NER said:
But realistically if it was all 2D with sprites, I'd hope they started making them 3 years ago or it'd never get done.
Draft said:
This. I like these kinds of opinions being thrown around in this thread. MvC was so awesome, the competitive scene clung to the game regardless of how "balanced" it is.
sixteen-bit
Member
Don't tell me you think MvC2 is simple.jecclr2003 said:
EYEL1NER
Member
You know what? I'll be honest, I can't say that I wouldn't want that._dementia said:
MvC3 for me would be 2D, more characters, slightly better balanced (I don't want a perfectly balanced fighter, but I don't want all the Capcom characters to suck ass compared to Marvel either), alternate costumes (if they reused sprites, then I guess that would be a problem for them, but that is my dream), more/different moves.
Give me MvC2 with more new characters and I'm a happy man.
Though if we did get 2.5D or 3D, that has always been my dream, is choosing Spiderman and having a selectable Scarlet Spider or plain-clothes Photographer Peter Parker costume or picking Ken and choosing Alpha-version with long hair. Maybe for Wolverine, get the Onslaught-era feral Wolvie with the bandanna and jagged bone claws. Alt costumes have been my dream since MvC2 came out on the Dreamcast, but after seeing the alts in SFIV, I can't believe they would be too awesome. "Hey look! You can pay 160 MP for a Spidey alt where he wears a fedora. A FEDORA!!!" Lame.
Host Samurai
Member
I would rather it be Shonen Jump over Marvel but ill take it 
I want 70+ characters, 2d (it will be 2.5), and dont give a damn how unbalanced it is. If I want balanced than Ill play SSF4, I want madness here.
Fighters that should be in
The Killer7 ( all as one character)
Nemesis
Gene
Haggar
Virgil
I want 70+ characters, 2d (it will be 2.5), and dont give a damn how unbalanced it is. If I want balanced than Ill play SSF4, I want madness here.
Fighters that should be in
The Killer7 ( all as one character)
Nemesis
Gene
Haggar
Virgil
ShockingAlberto
Member
I think MvC2 is complex but I don't think it was ever intended to be that way.
hitsugi
Member
Raging Spaniard said:
thanks
and to those that posted a TVC vid of wong vs whoever with Tatsunoko - you swear I haven't seen other vids of that game. I live in LA and see matches like that in person and you are kidding yourselves if you think it's as fast or fluid as Marvel. That is all.
jetsetfluken
Member
Well a rumor is better than nothing. Hopefully after seeing MVC2 PSN/XBLA success, someone started talking.
Zero, Carnage, MMZ Zero please. (I actually composed a large list years ago, but doubt I have it still. Brain-dead right now.)
Zero, Carnage, MMZ Zero please.
(I actually composed a large list years ago, but doubt I have it still. Brain-dead right now.)DJ Lushious
Member
It's also a staggeringly broken game, too.RoboJ said:
hitsugi
Member
DJ Lushious said:
there's balance at the top.
the game would have been dead a long time ago had people not continued to rediscover the potential within those characters at the top. everyone thought sent/storm/aa would be it for the game until Yipes pushed MSP to a different level and swept everyone off their asses.. then Christ Schmidt innovated even further.
the things that are "broken" in MVC2 are what make the game fun.
diztrukted
Member
honestly, i don't see any reason this wouldn't be 2.5d done in a sf4 style. only thing hindrance would be having the large number of fighters in MvC2 which I'm sure could be added later via DLC or dare I say it (Hyper Marvel vs Capcom 3: Incredible All-Stars) :lol
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I may as well toss in my character wishlist. Dante seems like a no brainer, seeing as he's the main character of one of Capcom's biggest franchises at this point.
DMC: Dante
RE: Wesker, Nemesis, Leon, steroid mutant Chris XD
Onimusha: Samanosuke
Megaman: Zero, Dr Wily
Phoenix Wright: Phoenix, Ms. Von Karma (she even has a weapon already!)
Marvel: Blade, Nightcrawler, Carnage, Phoenix, Deadpool
Also, I'd be totally fine with 2D gameplay similar to MvC2 but 3D graphics like SF4.
DMC: Dante
RE: Wesker, Nemesis, Leon, steroid mutant Chris XD
Onimusha: Samanosuke
Megaman: Zero, Dr Wily
Phoenix Wright: Phoenix, Ms. Von Karma (she even has a weapon already!)
Marvel: Blade, Nightcrawler, Carnage, Phoenix, Deadpool
Also, I'd be totally fine with 2D gameplay similar to MvC2 but 3D graphics like SF4.
Im still calling bullshit on that. MvC2's perceived fast pace is due to the fact that that both sides are constantly calling out assists so there is a lot of things going on the screen at once. TvC has more of a 1v1 feel to it, but the characters don't move any slower, and they sure as hell don't move any less fluid.hitsugi said:thanks
and to those that posted a TVC vid of wong vs whoever with Tatsunoko - you swear I haven't seen other vids of that game. I live in LA and see matches like that in person and you are kidding yourselves if you think it's as fast or fluid as Marvel. That is all.
Man, that is an awesome suggestion.Host Samurai said:I would rather it be Shonen Jump over Marvel but ill take it
I want 70+ characters, 2d (it will be 2.5), and dont give a damn how unbalanced it is. If I want balanced than Ill play SSF4, I want madness here.
Fighters that should be in
The Killer7 ( all as one character)
hitsugi
Member
Threi said:
look, it's apparent that you aren't a huge fan of Marvel.. and I'm not big on Tatsunoko. Now, yes it's true that MVC2 has 3 characters on screen at... most times, but there's more to it than that.
You can call bullshit on whatever you'd like to, but the TVC roster lacks options that certain Marvel characters have (triangle jumps, sentinel), thus - these characters can and DO move faster than anything in Tatsunoko.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3_n-d01PpY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GKI8sVA4wo
This is going nowhere. And yes it is apparent you aren't big on TvC. I will just say that IAD and the dash glitch in TvC has you controlling the speed of your character's movement all the same.hitsugi said:
You say the speed of the characters are faster, I say thats a load of crap. I'm not in the mood to post vids to try to validate/disprove opinions.
The point is both games have different playstyles, but to call TvC clunky because of that is asinine at the very least. That is akin to calling the mainline SF series slow and clunky because they play different.
"God's Beard!"
Member
It's not a fighter, it's a real-time strategy game. Troop management, resource collection, upgrade paths, it's got it all.GuardianE said: