Who's the best professional wrestler ever?

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Kurt Angle. His matches against Benoit were the best combination of technical ability and entertainment. The crowd didn't care who was heel or face in those matches and gave both guys standing ovations when it was all said and done. Plus in the third match it was awesome seeing them reverse out of the ankle lock into the crippler crossface and back ti the ankle lock.
 
wow not a lot (if any ?) of quote for Anglel here.. I actually think he's objectivly one of the best in history, at being charismatic, ultra skilled, a moty maker.. He had a really good match with matt morgan, come on! Even his program with Henry was good :p

Also HBK and Bret Hart obviously. The three of them are guys who know how to tell a story on the ring.
 
Overall? Flair, HBK, Stone Cold, and the Rock. Period.

I'm personally a fan of HHH too. He was fantastic as a heel and a face even though he did get pushed too hard. Jericho is also extremely underrated but hard to see since nowadays the WWE has him jobbing for Fandango who is essentially a jobber now as well.
 
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He looks like Frank Drebin here.
 
I give it a three way race between Bret Hart, Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit.

When you look at what happened to each it goes from sad to outright disappointing and WTF worthy if not tragic.
 
I give it a three way race between Bret Hart, Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit.

When you look at what happened to each it goes from sad to outright disappointing and WTF worthy if not tragic.

Only one of those guys had mic skill, as per the OP's definition.
 
Overall package is probably Austin.

I know he wasn't as a good a wrestler post neck break, but he was still entertaining in ring and his promo work was masterful. 1997 Austin is untouched when it comes to that.
 
He looks like Frank Drebin here.

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Also, Bret Hart is a really underrated promo guy. People tend to consider mic skills as coked up craziness or catch phrases. Bret had that Arn Anderson promo style of a real dude talking real shit. He wasn't flashy, didn't have a ton of catch phrases, and wasn't going to have people chanting along with him. But he was going to get across what he needed to say in the way he needed to say it with no bullshit along the way.
 
Bret Hart. The best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be.

He wore a pink costume and still managed to be awesome, think about that for a second. He managed to become a superstar while wearing a pink costume.
He's also one of the most boring main eventers in the last 20-30 years. Took him 10 years before he cut a half decent one.
 
Pretty tough call. Can go lots of ways: Randy Savage, Kurt Angle, (late career) Eddie Guerrero, 1997 Steve Austin, hmm...

Hard to decide. Those guys were fantastic to watch, but despite lacking great mic skills, Bret Hart and Chris Benoit were equally as entertaining because they could tell such a good story in the ring, and had amazing technical ability. Owen Hart had similar abilities to me as a high flyer, but never got his proper due in the main event.
 
Also, Bret Hart is a really underrated promo guy. People tend to consider mic skills as coked up craziness or catch phrases. Bret had that Arn Anderson promo style of a real dude talking real shit. He wasn't flashy, didn't have a ton of catch phrases, and wasn't going to have people chanting along with him. But he was going to get across what he needed to say in the way he needed to say it with no bullshit along the way.

I don't think you need catch phrases to be good on the mic, the overuse of them is one of my least favorite things about revisiting the attitude era. But outside of a few promos that spring to mind in WWF, I feel like he was generally uncomfortable doing them until he got to WCW. He seemed more laid back there, it's a shame that the run there was cut short and he didn't get to do a whole lot.
 
I don't think you need catch phrases to be good on the mic, the overuse of them is one of my least favorite things about revisiting the attitude era. But outside of a few promos that spring to mind in WWF, I feel like he was generally uncomfortable doing them until he got to WCW. He seemed more laid back there, it's a shame that the run there was cut short and he didn't get to do a whole lot.

Bret Hart's WCW themes are also amazoballs awesome
 
In terms of in ring ability the wrestler who always impressed me most is Kenta Kobashi.

It's a shame that cancer robbed him of two years of his career.
 
Based on the criteria in the OP, I think the first reply pretty much nailed it lol.

Ric Flair should also be mentioned (I'm sure he has been already, I haven't read the thread).

My favourites are Mick Foley (never really all that good technically, but aces charisma and mic skills) Stone Cold (same) Lita (technically great, charisma and mic skills less so).
 
Based on the criteria in the OP, I think the first reply pretty much nailed it lol.

Ric Flair should also be mentioned (I'm sure he has been already, I haven't read the thread).

My favourites are Mick Foley (never really all that good technically, but aces charisma and mic skills) Stone Cold (same) Lita (technically great, charisma and mic skills less so).
I think you're being unfair to Austin. Before his neck break he was one of the best wrestlers in North America.
 
Kenta Kobashi. If we're talking people who are still alive and not retired...that's a much harder choice. Daniel Bryan? Kota Ibushi?
 
Kurt Angle, his matches with HBK, and Chris were amazing. And he had some of the most hilarious promos on TV. This is all based on his wwf work.
 
I don't think you need catch phrases to be good on the mic, the overuse of them is one of my least favorite things about revisiting the attitude era. But outside of a few promos that spring to mind in WWF, I feel like he was generally uncomfortable doing them until he got to WCW. He seemed more laid back there, it's a shame that the run there was cut short and he didn't get to do a whole lot.

I think Bret was competent enough on the mic and his perceived lack of personality was more to do with the wild characters surrounding him in WWF. However, I agree that he really did seem uncomfortable cutting promos. He was even worse before the Hitman character, a complete black hole of personality. I've watched old Bret & Owen matches from the 80's, in Stampede and around the world, and it always amazed me that Owen wasn't a bigger deal. He connected with the crowd so effortlessly, as a heel or a face, whereas Bret barely acknowledged the crowd's presence and got no reaction from his by-the-numbers promos.

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Kenta Kobashi. If we're talking people who are still alive and not retired...that's a much harder choice. Daniel Bryan? Kota Ibushi?

It's got to be Hiroshi Tanahashi for me - he's a big draw, hugely popular and charismatic and has put on more 4-5 star matches this year than anybody.
 
Kurt Angle, his matches with HBK, and Chris were amazing. And he had some of the most hilarious promos on TV. This is all based on his wwf work.
His stuff with Austin when they were both heels was amazing. Especially the miniature cowboy hat!

It goes without saying he is probably one of the most technically gifted too.
 
My official answer is HBK, but there are some to me who just stand out in certain areas. Stone Cold for just his overall craziness, and The Rock for being a dynamite on the mic in his day.
 
Going with Bret Hart also. He's the sole reason I became a huge wrestling fan in the late 90's, especially during the Hart Foundation 2.0 era. But HBK would be a close 2nd.

Absolutely nothing will ever come close to their feud. They were the Ken & Ryu of their time.
 
Randy Savage, when you take into consideration the total package. He has the look, the mic skills, the strength, the athleticism, the brawling, the aerial game, the wrestling, the charisma, the character, EVERYTHING. And he excelled as a face and a heel. And he was super popular. HBK, Bret Hart, Bryan, Flair, Dynamite, Steamboat, none of these guys are elite at EVERYTHING listed above. Savage is the perfect wrestler, find a flaw, I dare you
 
In terms of wrestling ability, without question it's Bret Hart. The match between him and Stone Cold, where Austin went over, might just be the best example of professional wrestling ever.
 
Chris Jericho.

He's the complete package when it comes to wrestling. Charismatic, amazing mic skills, can play both a face and heel to perfection, and most of all, one of the best in ring performers. He can do anything, from fast paced lucha to brawls to a slow technical match.
 
Chris Jericho.

He's the complete package when it comes to wrestling. Charismatic, amazing mic skills, can play both a face and heel to perfection, and most of all, one of the best in ring performers. He can do anything, from fast paced lucha to brawls to a slow technical match.

Sure, but have you seen his pectoral muscles lately?
 
I hope a lot of people listen to the stone cold podcast, so many great guests and insights into the business from Kurt, Xpac, Wade Keller, Colt, Nash and a lot more.
 
Flair was the most ass wrestler to watch I swear. This has to be between The Rock, HBK, Bret Hart, Undertaker and Austin.


Out of those guys, I think the one who had the most well rounded talent was HBK.

My favorite would be Bret hart though, because I care more about the technical wrestling side.
 
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