Who's the best professional wrestler ever?

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Someone needs to make a chart to gauge the wrestlers in this thread. Also, when doing so, disqualify the Rock, because it's not him.
 
If you watch any wrestling documentaries, most other wrestlers usually say HBK. If you grew up in that era, I don't see how you couldn't say either HBK, Hart, Perfect, or Benoit.
 
If you watch any wrestling documentaries, most other wrestlers usually say HBK. If you grew up in that era, I don't see how you couldn't say either HBK, Hart, Perfect, or Benoit.

Benoit didn't really have charisma, he just made up for it with sheer intensity. Perfect blew his opportunities to be at the top. It's sad really, that guy had limitless potential.
 
Benoit didn't really have charisma, he just made up for it with sheer intensity. Perfect blew his opportunities to be at the top. It's sad really, that guy had limitless potential.

Just my opinion, but Benoit didn't need charisma. He was that good. Why I can't agree with people who say Jericho because he clearly lacked that super level of skill (which he practically copied from Benoit minus his overseas experience) but made up with it his insane antics.
 
Macho Man is simply iconic. Mick Foley and CM Punk are fellow masters of the art who have fallen just short of Savage. The Rock and Austin rule the crowd but were at best on the peripheral of great in-ring moments, and Dwayne Johnson has overshadowed The Rock. Kurt Angle and various others have great technical skills and are hugely entertaining but fall a bit short.

But when people think pro wrestler they think Macho Man.

Austin was a great technical wrestler before the injuries. Especially in WCW where he put on some great tag and singles matches.
 
Benoit didn't really have charisma, he just made up for it with sheer intensity. Perfect blew his opportunities to be at the top. It's sad really, that guy had limitless potential.

Benoit did have charisma, he just didn't have speaking charisma. He absolutely had physical charisma.

Mr. Perfect was never given a real chance as Hogan was the dominant guy. He didn't blow any opportunities because he was never going to be the top guy in the 80s or early 90s, and by the time Hogan was gone, he was coming off his back injury and was a much lesser wrestler going forward. You might as well say that Ted Dibiase blew his opportunities or something.
 
I wouldn't call him the best ever, but Roddy Piper is surprisingly underrated. He was one of the best on the mic (if not the best) and he was a really sound wrestler.
 
I love Chono and his attitude. But he was the third best of the 3 musketeers.

Jumbo Tsuruta would be my pick.

Chono wasn't quite the same after his neck injury. I also thought his body of work as a face in the early 90s was probably the high point of his career, match quality wise.

Good to see another Jumbo fan. I hadn't really appreciated him properly until a year or two ago, as I never bothered to check out much Japanese wrestling from the 70s and 80s. Jumbo was undoubtedly one of the top wrestlers in the world at that time, though.
 
For overall package? Ric Flair, maybe, or Randy Savage, or Eddie Guerrero, or Shawn Michaels. Stone Cold Steve Austin pre-neck injury is a hell of a total package.

But most of the greats are ones that are good in most areas and excel in one or two.
 
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If only for his Twitter feed. I'm convinced he doesn't write the stuff himself, but given what he's like i can guarantee he definitely says every word of it.
 
Considering the total package aspect I'm thinking it has to be Shawn Michaels.
Yet I can't help myself, I'm going with Kane The Undertaker.
 
Maybe it's just me but I don't remember HBK being good on the mic at all. When I think of his charisma it was in the ring, not verbally. HBK's promos were memorable because of all the double meaning wink wink nudge nudge stuff.

Pretty tough call. Can go lots of ways: Randy Savage, Kurt Angle, (late career) Eddie Guerrero, 1997 Steve Austin, hmm...

Hard to decide. Those guys were fantastic to watch, but despite lacking great mic skills, Bret Hart and Chris Benoit were equally as entertaining because they could tell such a good story in the ring, and had amazing technical ability. Owen Hart had similar abilities to me as a high flyer, but never got his proper due in the main event.
I hated Owen for a long time because when he was doing the high flying stuff he had an awkward style with tons of mistimes and botches. I was weird to me when I read Mick Foley's book that he said Owen did that shit on purpose as a joke.

Randy Savage, when you take into consideration the total package. He has the look, the mic skills, the strength, the athleticism, the brawling, the aerial game, the wrestling, the charisma, the character, EVERYTHING. And he excelled as a face and a heel. And he was super popular. HBK, Bret Hart, Bryan, Flair, Dynamite, Steamboat, none of these guys are elite at EVERYTHING listed above. Savage is the perfect wrestler, find a flaw, I dare you

Drawing power. Hogan being a fixture during Savage's title reign was a black mark on him, though to be fair in that era nobody could draw like Hogan. Savage is my pick but that does stand out.
 
I think Macho Man has to be up there. He's basically everything you THINK of when you think of a wrestler - great look, weird personality, colorful costumes, rambling (yet strangely coherent) promos, an iconic voice, beautiful woman by his side, and the in-ring ability to do almost anything.
 
Purely on what went down in the ring, Benoit was my favorite. Considering that I always preferred the performance in the ring over what occurred outside it (especially when it could get really lame at times, predictable face-heel turn cycles, tag team break ups, awkward persona disposing/transformation), that made him my favorite (probably tied with Jericho).
 
I can't say that there's one guy who trumps all but these guys were my favorite growing up.

Stone Cold Steve Austin
The Rock
Kurt Angle
HBK
Eddie Guerrero
Chris Jericho
 
I'm not quite sure why, but I'm impressed at how diverse the selection of favorites is in this thread. Wrasslin' seems to have something for almost everybody to enjoy.
 
The best guy of this current era is Brock Lesnar though. His in ring and out of ring charisma are the best of this generation and if the WWE didn't have him on a leash he would be the best at controlling the crowd and cutting promos. The guy cut some great promos in the UFC before and after fights.
 
Eddy Guerrero or Jushin Liger.

It's so subjective- I vote Eddy because he was one of the greatest technical wrestlers, and one of the greatest mic workers ever, and could do any match (which is why Flair isn't the best- just one of the best)

No idea how Liger's mic skills are in Japan, but he's probably the greatest ring technician in history, and was one of the greatest high fliers until the brain cancer.

Surprised no one mentioned Vader yet- he's not the top for me, but he's top 10 all-time. Deserves more love.
 
If Brock hadn't left in 2004 and stayed with wrestling this whole time, I think he'd be the best ever. For real best ever. His rate of improvement from 2002-2004 was incredible. Just his rate of improvement from April 2002 to November 2002 was insane. Then he takes 8 years off and is somehow even better. He was easily a top 5 in the world when he left and that was really only after 2 years of full time wrestling.
 

Yeah loved them both

+1 He could fly high with other luchas, grapple with the best and knew how to work his character from every angle.

RIP Eddy(laughing so hard when this happened)
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Honestly for me it was Chris Benoit.

pre-murder that is.

of course, he was awesome
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Mis hermanos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MJid1jx7qAQ#t=2066

Probably the most tearful moment in wraslin.
 
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