why dId Sony abandon all of their first party RPG ips?

I'm really hoping GG use this fresh RPG air to rise above mediocrity and deliver a system seller.

Also, the long rumoured 1st Party FF-Killer JRPG has been in the works for a while now, right? I'm not even sure what the credentials behind that being real are though.
 
Someone ought to direct this question at Yosp

It needn't be JRPG specifically. With the amount of IPs Sorny possesses, I have always pondered if they can make one of them switch genres to be RPG.

People keep mentioning this mysterious "new" IP by GG but after their somewhat downward spiral in quality after KZ2, it makes me wonder whether they can actually make a decent WRPG.
 
If I had to guess, it's because they really didn't need to make a special effort to get first-party exclusives after the Playstation 1 because at that point Sony was the best platform for them by default in terms of home consoles. At the time of the PS1's release, they weren't as established as they currently are.
 
Wasn't Legend of Dragoon hyped as being a FF killer in the 90s? I think I remember that anyway. Didn't exactly work out well for Sony.
 
YuriLowell said:
JRPGs just dont sell that well anymore.
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That's not a mark against the genre. It's a mark against the state of the genre which in many ways is a bit stagnant (much like I feel about FPS). If there's a truly great and innovative JRPG pushed by Sony, I think it could do pretty well for itself.
 
Sony tends to abandon IPs for the most part.

It's the reason Sony Smash didn't to do well. The fans don't really a connection to those characters.
 
From an casual view of the titles listed in the OP, Sony ceased bothering because the games Sony was attempting to Clone with their "Original" IPs became less popular.
 
orthodoxy1095 said:
That's not a mark against the genre. It's a mark against the state of the genre which in many ways is a bit stagnant (much like I feel about FPS). If there's a truly great and innovative JRPG pushed by Sony, I think it could do pretty well for itself.
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What does this even mean? The bold statement doesn't really mean anything.

Look at any FF thread, all you get are players wishing it as more like in the past. Ff15 is trying a different combat and most of the complaints amounts to "lol, but I want the shit I played 20 years ago". Why you change ff.

Anyways, they are just as many innovative JRPG as they are innovative WRPG or FPS or open world games. The problem is the market doesn't want them and so most of them end up not leaving Japan.
 
entrement said:
Sony tends to abandon IPs for the most part.

It's the reason Sony Smash didn't to do well. The fans don't really a connection to those characters.
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We'll other them the fact that they used characters that have no real identity tied to PlayStation like Big Daddy's and Dead Space guy.
 
orthodoxy1095 said:
That's not a mark against the genre. It's a mark against the state of the genre which in many ways is a bit stagnant (much like I feel about FPS). If there's a truly great and innovative JRPG pushed by Sony, I think it could do pretty well for itself.
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I certainly think you make a good point about the stagnant nature of JRPGs. The large number of releases on console have been Idea Factory or NIS type games. I know some people enjoy them, but they are low budget games that certainly don't sell a huge amount.

Most JRPGs are made for handheld/mobile and can be made on a small budget. I am surprised Sony didn't try to release more in the genre on the Vita though. Perhaps they would have eventually had the system not bombed.
 
None of them sold enough to warrant further development?

funkystudent said:
Because SCEJ spent the last 8 years making Locoroco and Patapon and tossing money and people down The Last Guardian pit.
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Patapon and LocoRoco were two of the best games on PSP and probably did proportionally better than an RPG would have.
 
OuterLimits said:
Most JRPGs are made for handheld/mobile and can be made on a small budget. I am surprised Sony didn't try to release more in the genre on the Vita though. Perhaps they would have eventually had the system not bombed.
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God, they just recently released Oreshika 2. What with people neglecting that game and asking why they are abandon JRPG genre?
 
ReaperXL7 said:
I have been taking some time go back through many of the older games and consoles that I have owned over the years and thinking about their libraries and the one constant is that all of my favorite systems became so because of the RPGS that were available on them. Sega was my primary console in those old days and the only reason I ever really bothered with Nintendo was for RPGs and the occasional Capcom/Konami game mostly.

So when I think back to the reasoning behind my ending up with PlayStation when I did it was largely due to all of the amazing RPGS that came or were coming to their systems. It could easily be argued that most of the better known games were third party but that did not stop me from loving many of the first party RPGS that Sony had brought to the table.

A few examples of some of Sony's owned RPG IPs

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Great OP!

Can't believe there is no big japanese RPG (I don't mean Bloodborne) in development at Sony. And damn, Legend of Dragoon sold over 1 million in NA alone. They had a damn good internal JRPG team at SCE (LoD) with former FF6 devs and what happened? Gone!

Even Nintendo has an internal JRPG studio with Monolith for the RPG fans. And Sony? Nothing!
Unbelievable!
 
I'd love to see a lower scale Wild Arms reboot as a downloadable title. A high end collaboration with Level 5 would also be amazing. It was a good series and deserves better, and I think there's enough of a market out there for either appraoch.
 
OuterLimits said:
Wasn't Legend of Dragoon hyped as being a FF killer in the 90s? I think I remember that anyway. Didn't exactly work out well for Sony.
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If anything Legend of Dragoon should be seen as spiritual successor of Legend of Legaia of some sorts. I always felt the same vibes coming from both games.
 
Damn. I cry whenever I remember Legend of Legaia. I made a few friends because of that game. Shame it never went past LoL2.
 
Gruco said:
I'd love to see a lower scale Wild Arms reboot as a downloadable title. A high end collaboration with Level 5 would also be amazing. It was a good series and deserves better, and I think there's enough of a market out there for either appraoch.
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I think a Wild Arms XF 2 so to speak would be well within the means of a small indie studio.
 
FusionCode said:
Why would they want to kill a franchise that was exclusive to their console?
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They were hyping it up as rivaling FF. You could tell when playing LOD that it was trying to clone FF. I actually liked the game but it definitely felt like a very generic FF ripoff.
 
This is not isolated to their RPGs; SCEJ abandoned more IPs from the PS1/PS2 era than the total IPs they had during the whole PS3 gen. I find it hard to believe that it all comes down to the Japan focus on mobile, because this started before that shift. SCEJ just seems really disorganized and wasteful. Cerny and Shu need to clean the tub and get some of those teams back on old IPs for the PS4.
 
eyeball_kid said:
This is not isolated to their RPGs; SCEJ abandoned more IPs from the PS1/PS2 era than the total IPs they had during the whole PS3 gen. I find it hard to believe that it all comes down to the Japan focus on mobile, because this started before that shift. SCEJ just seems really disorganized and wasteful. Cerny and Shu need to clean the tub and get some of those teams back on old IPs for the PS4.
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They just reformed the whole Japan studio last year as far as I know. IF we want to have any of the old IPs, it should be next year where we will hear about them, not now.
 
Damn Verendus promised us so many Megatons...

Final Fantasy 7 Remake
Big Secret JRPG from Sony Japan
New Brawler for the Ps4
Sega/Sony Game Exclusive
Sega/Capcom Game Exclusive


if they all turn out to be true, he will be a Legend !
 
nbnt said:
I feel like this is going to be the "secret PS3 game" of this gen. I highly doubt that Sony is working on such a project.
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Guerrilla Games are. And thankfully, I'm glad, especially when they were stuck making nothing but Killzone games for the last decade.

And it's coming to PS4.

canedaddy said:
Yeah, everything went to crap in Dark Cloud 2.
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Huh? Dark Cloud 2 was way better than the first one was.
 
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