TheSadRanger
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I didn't physically threaten anybody, telling someone to fuck off is what it is.
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Why did western rock music die completely?
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I didn't physically threaten anybody, telling someone to fuck off is what it is.
The Bloody-Nine
Member
Do you know what it isn't? Cordial.
TheSadRanger
Banned
Always playing the victim as the aggressor even in an innocuous topic.
The Bloody-Nine
Member
"Agents", "deflecting", "playing the victim as the aggressor", "I was being cordial". Absolute nutcase.
You have clearly cooked up the reason why "rock is dead" in your tiny lizard brain and thus, you will dismiss everyone else's opinion on the matter. Occasionally in an aggressive and insulting manner. So why did you bother asking in the first place.
Are you going to share the results of your reasoning with us? I can hazard a guess.
Frito_Pendejo
Member
Rock died because bands like hinder, buck cherry and Nickelback killed it. Plus rap-rock really pushed a lot of fans away. At least in my opinion anyway.
Tenaciousmo
Member
I came here thinking people would've posted recent rock groups I've never heard of. boy was I wrong.
TheSadRanger
Banned
Read my OP.
edit: I clearly ask why modern and folk rock simply doesn't exit today in the mainstream.
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Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Maybe for the musicians, but I would not agree that this also holds for the listeners. Rock / metal (I do not treat them as separate, metal is just a variant of rock for me) is my favourite music genre, but I do not think it has any bearing on my lifestyle other than what music I like to listen to.
NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
Wussy ass alternative rock killed rock.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
The music itself didn’t die it’s just that the music industry has moved on from rock. It’s still made it is just not promoted. it went underground.
Also the collapse of physical music sales. Bands used to sell full albums but when you are selling mp3s or song streams it’s a more single focused thing.
If the industry didn’t kill rock then COVID will for sure all those shuttered venues and bands w nowhere to play.
Also the collapse of physical music sales. Bands used to sell full albums but when you are selling mp3s or song streams it’s a more single focused thing.
If the industry didn’t kill rock then COVID will for sure all those shuttered venues and bands w nowhere to play.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Seether killed rock music. Fucking Seether...
Bonfires Down
Member
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Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Kinda interesting nobody mentioned Country music yet.
Rock music basically evolved into "new" Country where there's more money. So the fanbase is still there it's just different.
It's also a more welcoming scene than the hipster indie stuff that's more exclusionary by default.
Rock music basically evolved into "new" Country where there's more money. So the fanbase is still there it's just different.
It's also a more welcoming scene than the hipster indie stuff that's more exclusionary by default.
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Fret Runner
Member
Rocks final words before it vanished in to the night: Death is but a door. Time is but a window. I'll be back.
Elektro Demon
Banned
General lack of testosterone and soy ingestion in younger generations is what killed rock.
Bonfires Down
Member
Because you can’t dance to it. Also rock is too heavy for some so other genres are agreeable to more people.
Anyway, some of the stuff I listen to:
Dream Theater
Riverside
Thank You Scientist
Steven Wilson
Opeth
Pelican
Haken
The War On Drugs
Anathema
Volbeat
Anyway, some of the stuff I listen to:
Dream Theater
Riverside
Thank You Scientist
Steven Wilson
Opeth
Pelican
Haken
The War On Drugs
Anathema
Volbeat
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jufonuk
not tag worthy
Have a wank to some speed metal. Keep in time. Climax during the solo. Feel better? Rock never dies just like cobra Kai.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I don't think the people listening to Soundgarden were also listening to Garth Brooks.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Some serious talent there. Does get a bit into virtuoso jacking off but I like it.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
I know that this is pop, however it made me really happy that this sort of music is released in 2020:
And yes it's quantized.
And yes it's quantized.
And if you jack the BPM up, you have DnB beat, there are multiple people who are creating hop-hop and DnB at the same time, reusing beats (which means just drums, snares, percussion)....
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Kev Kev
Member
well said
Gojira says hello.
highrider
Banned
ok cause we all know the really tough dudes wear skin tight leather pants with teased hair and makeup 
They were trying to appeal to young girls, who used to buy their records.
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Not sure, but I remember being confused when all my friends switched to rap in the mid to late 90s. I didn't like it then, but it shits on the mainstream rap now. Most of it sounds like a dude recording while sitting in a recliner, or desperately trying to come up with their version of the Urkel dance.
Rock seemed to be making a nice comeback with the indie movement around 2005, but it didn't last too long. I guess the EMO stuff that came after turned it into a joke.
Rock seemed to be making a nice comeback with the indie movement around 2005, but it didn't last too long. I guess the EMO stuff that came after turned it into a joke.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
In my own experience, it seems like the people that loved 70s rock listen to country now.
No clue where the younger Gen X crowd went to musically though.
I do think a lot of the softer pop rock that was popular in the 90s doesn't sound too far off from country music.
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Rien
Jelly Belly
Hear hear!!
Grinchy
Banned
No rock could ever compete with the brilliance of what's popular these days.
bigsnack
Member
I was going to write something similar, but I’ll just quote you.
Rock songs HAVE to be good. Good rock has almost always needed a great melody and a great riff/beat together. At some point after hip hop / rap took off, rock gave up on the good melody part, and then the casual listener gave up on the genre.
Indie focused on the melody but gave up on the beat, going for some sort of campfire singalong vibe that I didn’t resonate with at all.
Good rock needs both.
Rock music is still around, it's just not popular mainstream anymore, usually rock and metal festivals/gigs are where the main appeal is these days and that hardly gets covered on TV, etc. If you think Rock is dead (a phrase which has been touted since the 1980's) then you need to expand your own music tastes beyond of what you currently listen to which is most likely mainstream.
devilNprada
Member
Yeah only rock that's dead is the shit they played on the radio...
cryptoadam
Banned
Its hard takes time and talent.
Rapping is just rhyming some words, get some studio guy to auto tune, reverb and cover your raps up with beats. I mean you have a whole genre called mumble rap where people are barely even speaking clearly.
Its much easier to be a rapper then it is to form a band. A band has to get together practice, write songs, learn to play instruments, arrangments, practice practice practice, and then actually play in front of people. Rock music is good on the radio but its really something you feel with a group moshing out or singing together.
Now I am not saying rap is super easy. But compared to forming a rock band it is. If you have a cheap beats maker and 50$ mic you could make your own rap album, upload it to spotify,YT and if it goes viral you could be the next Drake.
Rapping is just rhyming some words, get some studio guy to auto tune, reverb and cover your raps up with beats. I mean you have a whole genre called mumble rap where people are barely even speaking clearly.
Its much easier to be a rapper then it is to form a band. A band has to get together practice, write songs, learn to play instruments, arrangments, practice practice practice, and then actually play in front of people. Rock music is good on the radio but its really something you feel with a group moshing out or singing together.
Now I am not saying rap is super easy. But compared to forming a rock band it is. If you have a cheap beats maker and 50$ mic you could make your own rap album, upload it to spotify,YT and if it goes viral you could be the next Drake.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.1
Listing alice and chains, 90s rock is a million to 1 scenario rock is a music concept, artists like gary clark jr, jack white etc. can still get in their rock zones today, plus I kinda like today's tech that some rock artists can pull off.
devilNprada
Member
Not to mention public schools continously cut programs like music which deminishes the talent pool.
bigsnack
Member
Exactly. It’s self fulfilling too because without a current artist to emulate, young kids don’t want to pick up a guitar and learn. A lot of the popular rock acts now are instrumental bands with insane amounts of technical talent. That’s basically 1% of anyone who will ever pick up a guitar. That seems a much harder mountain to climb for a 12 year old compared to trying to learn Ramones songs.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I blame Canadian butt rock.
teezzy
Banned
Wow, OP really took what should've been a fun discussion and sucked all the life out of it.
With that said, rock and metal are both still very much alive. They're just not the central focus any longer, and honestly - who cares? Why would I want for my tastes to be shared by the unwashed masses? Fuck 'em.
The genres have only gotten better since most of the overly focus tested mainstream nonsense has been pushed aside.
Plenty of metal, indie, hardcore, punk, etc.
You just need to look harder.
With that said, rock and metal are both still very much alive. They're just not the central focus any longer, and honestly - who cares? Why would I want for my tastes to be shared by the unwashed masses? Fuck 'em.
The genres have only gotten better since most of the overly focus tested mainstream nonsense has been pushed aside.
Plenty of metal, indie, hardcore, punk, etc.
You just need to look harder.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
they turned into more specific genres that don't exactly sound good/work for radio. like prog rock, retrowave, metal, power metal, etc. normal rock just turned into Pop somewhere along the way.
diffusionx
Gold Member
It didn’t die completely, and it is important to remember that we don‘t choose the popular music, despite the name, it is chosen for us. Once rock was a chosen genre, now it is not.
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Old Retro
Member
Many genres are trash nowadays or shadows of their former selves. Maybe it's a generation thing? 
I listen to a lot of radio, really always have but moreso recently. It shocks me to hear hear shitty, mumble/autotuned rap and think, someone consciously thought to write and produce it, then release it thinking somebody out there would like it. Same with scratchy ass rock songs coming out.
But every once in a while, a good track or album will be released in rock or rap.
I listen to a lot of radio, really always have but moreso recently. It shocks me to hear hear shitty, mumble/autotuned rap and think, someone consciously thought to write and produce it, then release it thinking somebody out there would like it. Same with scratchy ass rock songs coming out.But every once in a while, a good track or album will be released in rock or rap.
Bridges
Member
Rock ain't dead, like others here said it's just not promoted anymore. There are still some acts putting out albums with mainstream appeal like:
Rap and pop music are far easier to make and far easier to market. It's also a lot easier to keep a single person around that gets their beats from producers as opposed to convincing three to five dudes to write and perform well together and not eventually grow to hate each other.
It is not true that "we have heard all there is to hear from guitar/bass/drums/vocals" it's just that anything unique or innovative within the format does not appeal to the kids who care more about "vibes" in their music than meaning or originality.
Rap and pop music are far easier to make and far easier to market. It's also a lot easier to keep a single person around that gets their beats from producers as opposed to convincing three to five dudes to write and perform well together and not eventually grow to hate each other.
It is not true that "we have heard all there is to hear from guitar/bass/drums/vocals" it's just that anything unique or innovative within the format does not appeal to the kids who care more about "vibes" in their music than meaning or originality.
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Kev Kev
Member
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exactly. in a way, i feel rock, and honestly all music, is better than its ever been bc we have access to so much more. ive never listened to so much music in my life, i honestly feel spoiled by it. and theres like an endless supply of it w spotify and pandora and the internet. theres so much more accessible rock/metal in the world now than there has ever been.
additionally, all the kids coming up now with all these streaming services are going to be listening to rock/metal all day, getting inspired and coming up with fantastic music as they get older. music is in such an awesome place rn that im just baffled at anyone who any of it is "dying"
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teezzy
Banned
I couldn't agree more
Kev Kev
The amount of music I have access to is overwhelming to be honest. Between Spotify and Bandcamp alone... I feel like I have an emulator with a full ROM set. Beats going out to stores and blind buying CDs so much.
I rarely venture outside of rock/metal and I have too much to select from.
In fact, I'm not even entirely sure I could tell you what songs are popular right now. When's the last time I turned on MTV or the radio?? How do people even consume pop music? Makes little sense to me when everyone has control to discover their own niche. I'm nearly 30 - why would I know that shit?!
OP listed a bunch of old ass boomer grunge/post-grunge bands
Music has moved on. For the better. That's the point of art forms. They evolve.
This isn't the 90s anymore grandpa, and fuck me, but we're better off for it.
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Kev Kev
The amount of music I have access to is overwhelming to be honest. Between Spotify and Bandcamp alone... I feel like I have an emulator with a full ROM set. Beats going out to stores and blind buying CDs so much.I rarely venture outside of rock/metal and I have too much to select from.
In fact, I'm not even entirely sure I could tell you what songs are popular right now. When's the last time I turned on MTV or the radio?? How do people even consume pop music? Makes little sense to me when everyone has control to discover their own niche. I'm nearly 30 - why would I know that shit?!
OP listed a bunch of old ass boomer grunge/post-grunge bands
Music has moved on. For the better. That's the point of art forms. They evolve.
This isn't the 90s anymore grandpa, and fuck me, but we're better off for it.
____
How about Dilly Dally?
How about Superheaven?
Maybe Teenage Wrist?
Slow Crush too!
Fuck, even Men I Trust!
Not testosterone-fueled enough? Take Portrayal of Guilt for a spin!