These XIII whine threads are funny.
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Vanille basically had the same thing.
I dunno I thought both Jude and Leia were mature for 15 really. I never really understood why they were 15 though. Medical school at 15, really? LolDamn i mixed him up with milla :/
Still applies as he's in graduate school, even if time is accelerated in the series.
Leia acts like shes 5.
"Gods" as a plot are rather weak, yes. But I think if you go back through your knowledge of FF, it was also the backbone of most FF plots. VI, VIII, X, and XII all relied upon the fact that the human badguy was wrestling power that appeared as a result of these god characters.
So IMO the Fal'cie/Cocoon plotline could have been the backdrop for a perfectly normal FF game... but the motivations of the villain characters, and the hero characters, was totally botched in execution. The actual plotting itself was, as you imply, totally nonsensical and unengaging. The gods stuff is fine as a backstory, but the actual plot points should be far more human and relatable.
Still, I think they had a competent scenario design that might have been a great sandbox for a better writer. I wish they had better writers.
Its like people in this thread didnt even play the game.
YES she is annoying as hell like most of the games cast, but there is a reason.
I found Snows shounen hero crap to be much more grating.
I agree to a certain extent, however sexualizing a game doesn't need to rob a character of their common sense and maturity. If Lighting was regularly fucking some character in that game - they could have done it while keeping her "strong" characterization.
Also, sexuality sadly is being define as giggling at the camera paired with orgasm sounds when running and falling,
I love this for some reason. :lol(...) If I see John Doe from a culture that believes that doing cartwheels every time he has to make a tough decision, I may not like it, but that shouldn't factor if he's a badly made character for doing the same thing 50+ times throughout a gameplay.
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Except Rikku didn't make a bunch of sex noises while operating Machina Maw.These XIII whine threads are funny.
Vanille basically had the same thing.
What's so true? How can you tell who played the game or not? If someone else played the game and didn't read the datalog or love the game as feverishly as the groupies did, does that mean he or she didn't really play the game?So true!!
The sad thing is FF is a series that shouldn't need this drivel to sell. Japan really needs to sort this "we NEED at least one sexualised female for this game to sell" way of thinking. Sure, they get a sale from 'that' type of audience, but they also alienate as many as it attracts.
I really wonder how many people actually buy a game cause it has a "sexy" female protagonist. Like, really? I was a horny teenager once but I never said " I don't have much interest in this movie. Oh man, there os a sexy female in it? Let's goooooooo"
I just can't imagine this being a huge audience, which incidentally might be the reason why I don't work in marketing anymore.
I really wonder how many people actually buy a game cause it has a "sexy" female protagonist. Like, really? I was a horny teenager once but I never said " I don't have much interest in this movie. Oh man, there os a sexy female in it? Let's goooooooo"
I just can't imagine this being a huge audience, which incidentally might be the reason why I don't work in marketing anymore.
True. Though I don't blame players for hating the character as often there is a young woman who acts like that for no discernible reason in jrpgs. I do get tired of female characters acting like idiotic children because the Japanese writer thinks it's endearing. It's probably one reason I like Lightning more than most despite her not being the most well realized character.There's a storyline reason for it.
She is bottling up the bad events of her life by acting like that.
Exactly.
Yep.
Unpopular Opinion Time:
I disliked Lightning ten times more than Vanille. She's a boring, stuck up, humorless bitch.
You would be surprised how many people think like that. It is quite sad.
You would be surprised how many people think like that. It is quite sad.
Unpopular Opinion Time:
I disliked Lightning ten times more than Vanille. She's a boring, stuck up, humorless bitch.
The hate this game gets from people who either never played it or tried to enjoy it as little as possible is ridiculous.
Unpopular Opinion Time:
I disliked Lightning ten times more than Vanille. She's a boring, stuck up, humorless bitch.
Maybe she's 19 for the localized version. Does anyone know if its the same in the Japanese version?
It also may be her way of subconsciously dealing with traumatic events.
McLovin said:Maybe she's 19 for the localized version. Does anyone know if its the same in the Japanese version?
Her way of dealing with trauma is to point a loaded gun at kids head and have the gun possibly misfire? Really?!
Guns just don't 'misfire' like that, not these days anyhow. most only fire if you pull the trigger itself.
XIII and its sequels suffered from a terrible localization.
because that's what the fans like even if they don't say it, makes her seem "accessible"
common characterization trick in these kinds of things
I'd say 13 suffers more from shoving everything into datalogs than localization really.
So...you believe that contrary to the damning evidence proving the opposite (sales, reviews, fan comments) - we all secretly like this character due to her accessibility? No offense, but I think that mindset is part of the problem with Square Enix and many JRPG games today. FFXIII on the whole has zero characters that I would define as accessible, most are barely tolerable.
Vanille is an appealing & cute character that is no more shallow than 99.8% of RPG characters and FF13 is the best Final Fantasy game since 7 for all but the most jaded nerds.
Vanille is an appealing & cute character that is no more shallow than 99.8% of RPG characters and FF13 is the best Final Fantasy game since 7 for all but the most jaded nerds.
Yeah, these.
And also I think it's gets extra creepy when you put her in an English voice. At least, to be frank, many Japanese women do act in a childish manner, so at least her speech pattern isn't totally alien in her native language. But give her an Aussie accent and it just comes across at the most bizzare grown up Pippi Longstocking who makes orgasm squeal noises as she moves around.
.....Also, she is hot and fuckable.I actually like Vanille. I didn't find her to be so bad of a character. She is a little to happy for her own good, but there is a reason for it.