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Wii 2 (Project Cafe): Officially Announced, Playable At E3, Launching 2012 [Updated]
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sonikokaruto
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God dammit!
Can't sleep and this thread ain't helping eiter
Can't sleep and this thread ain't helping eiter
ThoseDeafMutes
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DieH@rd said:
Best case scenario is 4GB. Realistic case scenario is 1-2.
Tarin02543
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I've been thinking, is there any possibility that the controller screens will be 3d?
This way they can market current generation graphics with 3d added.
This way they can market current generation graphics with 3d added.
EatChildren
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bananas said:
1GB would be adequate, even if they could do better. 512MB would be so stupid. RAM is so damn insanely cheap, even by Nintendo's standard, and in the right hands very useful. Sticking another 512MB in there would cost them next to nothing and give developers so much more to work with.
If it's 512MB it will cement Nintendo as either completely oblivious or utterly ignorant of giving their system the kind of future protection it probably needs, and it will come back to bite them.
The 3DS seems to have quite a bit more RAM than expected though, so who knows.
I think regarding the performance of the console and the potential of what many might consider to be sub-par specs (though this looks slightly unlikely), people should look to the smartphone space. As with everything the key is what Nintendo is going to do with the software, just like Apple released a phone last year yet all of the companies are comparing their phones to it. Arguably it's still the best phone on the market. Unfortunately Sony didn't do this, and suffered big time.
I know this is kinda obvious, but I think it's important.
I know this is kinda obvious, but I think it's important.
which1spink
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If the 800x500px info is true, I guess this is where the 20 extra pixels go:
Death Dealer
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ThoseDeafMutes said:
4GB with an R700 GPU would be a ludicrous waste. Best case is 2GB, which is still likely to be total overkill, realistically 1GB.
Disorientator
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E3 2011
RETRO STUDIOS unveils FZERO HD running on Project Cafe.
BELIEVE
RETRO STUDIOS unveils FZERO HD running on Project Cafe.
BELIEVE
Igor Antunov
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Tricore power pc cpu clocked @ 5ghz per core
1gb video gddr5 + 2gb ddr3. total = 3gb ram
4890 equivalent gpu.
1 Terabyte harddrive
Holographic disc drive with backwards compatibility for dvd. Maximum capacity of 1st generation holographic discs = 100gb.
BELIEVE
If this thing can stream 800x500 to 4 different screens at once....it could then pull off 3200x2000, right?
1gb video gddr5 + 2gb ddr3. total = 3gb ram
4890 equivalent gpu.
1 Terabyte harddrive
Holographic disc drive with backwards compatibility for dvd. Maximum capacity of 1st generation holographic discs = 100gb.
BELIEVE
If this thing can stream 800x500 to 4 different screens at once....it could then pull off 3200x2000, right?
The handheld lines were all a generation apart. The fact that the competition continuously release extremely powerful hardware doesn't mean Nintendo is holding back. That was their philosophy from the get go.bananas said:
The Wii is the only console that really held back on power.
AzureNightmare
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FYI, an R700 GPU is actually 2 RV770s combined. it is the solution used in the Radeon HD 4870X2
Disorientator
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GABDEG said:
It's NINTENDO.
It doens't work that way I'm afraid.
I'll try this again: do we even know if this will have a standard HDMI output? And if so, won't that be a huge factor on what's possible on the mobile screens? I can't phantom this machine processing an HD image and still having the power to render up to four different images to the mobile screens. Just doesn't sound feasible to me. I wouldn't be surprised if this was mobile screens output only.
bananas said:
Wii is really the only time they were severely underpowered. Their handheld progression was pretty reasonable. GBC -> GBA -> DS -> 3DS is right in line with NES -> SNES -> N64 -> GCN. Sony just happened to pop in with more powerful handhelds to make the DS and 3DS look bad.
abstract alien
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Wouldn't 1GB still be cutting it thin, considering its going to have to stream content in some form in a possible 4 different places simultaneously? Just asking, as I'm not savvy when it comes to this, but it does sound like the absolute bare minimum...EatChildren said:
Death Dealer
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AzureNightmare said:
And that had 1GB per GPU. So that's the upper, upper limit of what they would need for vram with a console-ized single chip design from that family. 1GB unified should be good enough, or some odd split ratio which Nintendo seems to like to use like 640MB of vram and 384MB for system.
Igor Antunov
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Ok it just occured to me, if it's going to be running 4 instances of a game simultaneously on the 4 controller screens, and maybe even on the tv itself, then it will have to have 4b of RAM minimum.
And it will need a beefy cpu. 4 player split screen always results in graphical poo on current consoles. I don't think they will poo up the game if you intend to just play it on your controller.
So I'm throwing out my old specs. These rumous are based on the dev kits or just made up so they can safely be ignored. I suspect it will feature:
Quadcore power pc cpu clocked @ 6ghz per core
1gb video gddr5 + 4gb ddr3. total = 5gb ram
5850 equivalent gpu.
1 Terabyte harddrive
Holographic disc drive with backwards compatibility for dvd. Maximum capacity of 1st generation holographic discs = 100gb.
BELIEVE
And it will need a beefy cpu. 4 player split screen always results in graphical poo on current consoles. I don't think they will poo up the game if you intend to just play it on your controller.
So I'm throwing out my old specs. These rumous are based on the dev kits or just made up so they can safely be ignored. I suspect it will feature:
Quadcore power pc cpu clocked @ 6ghz per core
1gb video gddr5 + 4gb ddr3. total = 5gb ram
5850 equivalent gpu.
1 Terabyte harddrive
Holographic disc drive with backwards compatibility for dvd. Maximum capacity of 1st generation holographic discs = 100gb.
BELIEVE
DeFiBkIlLeR
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AzureNightmare said:
Lol...they aint gonna be able to put an equivalent one of those in a $200-$300 console, the power and cooling requirements would be far too much, even with a modified 2011 die shrink.
A 4870x2 uses about the same amount of power as ATI's current monster GPU, the 6990.
A custom 4850/4870/4890 performance class GPU with a die shrink and a few extra DX11 feature set effects added is about the best you can expect.
Kind of like the Nvidia GPU in the Xbox1 , which had Geforce 2 performance, but had Geforce 3 effects bolted on.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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Oh man can't wait to see the games.
HD Fzero and starfox gonna sweet!
HD Fzero and starfox gonna sweet!
Igor Antunov
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JoeFenix said:
A 4870x2 is in the same league as a 5850 at lower resolutions.
RAM is dirt cheap.
Clocking up a power pc cpu design is easy and relatively trouble free, it's a simplistic architecture. xbox360's cores ran at 3.2ghz in 2005. This would have to be significantly faster unless they wanted it to underperform and cripple their system. A doubling is not out of the question.
The only wishful thinking on my part is the holographic drive, granted i have no idea, i doubt that they will use a blu ray drive. It will be proprietary.
And also the storage im guilty of fluffing up, realistically i guess 512gb would be too much, hdd drives are cheap but not that cheap. Maybe 320gb.
Bottom line, make it a unified system on a board and it's going to be a monster. They just need to handle the memory correctly, making sure there are no drastic bandwidth bottlenecks.
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