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Wii 2 (Project Cafe): Officially Announced, Playable At E3, Launching 2012 [Updated]
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Hiro said:
you guys! I have a friend who's uncle works at Nintendo. he said the Stream will have a 1TB holographic drive IN THE CONTROLLER! someone alert IGN!
thehillissilent
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I'm not saying it won't have a local HDD. However, having a Bluray drive makes more sense due to the amount of avaiable storage space. You also get to store better quality video and sound as well.manueldelalas said:
CoffeeJanitor
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I just cannot see Nintendo giving a big HDD, regardless of how much it makes sense to do soStevePharma said:
Microsoft will start the 'Xbox Next' viral this E3.Neiteio said:
Microsoft unveils Xbox 720 at X12 in February 2012
Nintendo will actually launch the Cafe... at E3 2012 with some rushed launch titles and shoddy ports
Don Mattrick walks on stage, says "$299"
Black hole appears
Earth collapses with Saturn
Always-honest
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they still have the name NINTENDO..Xdrive05 said:
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Kung Fu Grip said:
except no one was talking about that stuff. we were talking about controlling Pikmin with a pointer vs a gamepad.
manueldelalas
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I don't get the discussion about the streaming... streaming MGS4, Crysis or Angry Birds is exactly the same for the controller, it just acts as a receiver of a video, just like what OnLive does.
If the console is powerful (as reports indicate), then it just needs to run the game in the controller's screen resolution, and then stream it via Wi Fi or something to the controller, it's not that hard...
If the console is powerful (as reports indicate), then it just needs to run the game in the controller's screen resolution, and then stream it via Wi Fi or something to the controller, it's not that hard...
Saint Gregory
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Your thoughts sound very much like what Iwata has been saying for two years now. In several interviews he seemed to be talking about how families have less time for gaming because Nintendo was battling against TV programs but I always assumed he was bringing that up to support the need for handhelds as it never occured to me that he was thinking about consoles.EatChildren said:
It would also need to run that resolution to 4 controllers simultaneously. I have a feeling we're looking at a pretty powerful console here.manueldelalas said:
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Always-honest said:
And THAT'S what really matters here. People know Nintendo made the Wii, and they'll know Nintendo is making whatever their next system is called too.
Always-honest
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and the DS and the 3DSbrochiller said:
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So I guess Super Street FIghter IV will be hitting the platform with 3DS connectivity (as Ono prophesied).
Vinterbird
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[Nintex] said:
There's no way Microsoft is not gonna do a E3-Fall launch structure. They won't go 12-18 months tease period.
Baron Aloha said:
Iwata said after April 2012. Kinda sad since I was expecting a November 2011 launch.
Baron Aloha
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Playable at E3? Games likely easily ported from PC/360? So is anyone else not buying that they are waiting until 2012 to launch this thing?
I see some people saying they wouldn't launch it because 3DS just came out but the GBA->GCN gap was even smaller (assuming this is launching in November).
I see some people saying they wouldn't launch it because 3DS just came out but the GBA->GCN gap was even smaller (assuming this is launching in November).
CoffeeJanitor
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Ooooookay.Kung Fu Grip said:
You're really cool dude. Really cool.
badcrumble
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It's been patently obvious for a while now that Microsoft's launch strategy for their next console is to pair it with Halo 4 as a launch title - hence the use of titles like Halo 3: ODST, Halo: Reach, and the rumored CEmake to keep things trucking along until then.
manueldelalas
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As I said, PCs uses DVDs, and PC games have better sound and video quality than anything Blu Ray gaming based. The console will most likely have a HDD that will enable you to install and download stuff, and Nintendo will not make each console more expensive just so the two guys with a 52'' screen and 7.1 setup can notice a minimal difference in quality.thehillissilent said:
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Xdrive05 said:
I can't fathom the though of a person not know who Nintendo is. I just can't
CoffeeJanitor
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Nah, earlier I was saying that launching in '11 wasn't going to happen and that '12 made the most sense, but you win some you lose some rightHiro said:
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EatChildren said:
This makes a certain degree of sense, but it still has the same two fundamental problems that make me wonder what Nintendo is thinking: it cannibalizes a huge percentage of 3DS' usage (do the Japanese really not use handhelds at home at all?), and potentially throws out motion control as a major feature of the system. And it still doesn't exactly fit with Iwata's earlier comments about creating unique experiences that are only possible on one large, shared screen.
Always-honest
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ask them: "What is Nintendo?"Xdrive05 said:
because there are even better ways. I guess. When you think of it, it hasn't been used THAT much.. While tocuh controls on the Ds and i-phone seem highly succesfull.Father_Brain said:
[Nintex] said:
I'm with you this far only.
I am curious to see how long will it take Nintendo to cut its teeth on HD games. Early days of this generation showed us it's not an easy transition. I think it will be crucial that early Cafe HD games look as good or better than PS3/360 current quality games. Then again, this is Nintendo, and they will have some new feature as the centerpoint, and graphics will again be way down their priority list.
StickSoldier
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Ah hell, I thought they would do something like this. I wish they released a bit more info. Wonder what the chance is that they will show it off at the meeting tomorrow.
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at least they kinda confirmed that it won't have a Q1-Q2 launch. I can't see them doing a Q3. that would be odd.
thehillissilent
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You do realize that PC games don't usually play off the disc like most consoles games and that the data is uncompressed onto the harddrive when installed? Also, there are other various factors regarding video/sound quality such as graphics hardware. Anyway, i won't argue anymore with you. Using DVDs next gen is stupid except for BC.manueldelalas said:
EatChildren
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Saint Gregory said:
Pretty much. I think a lot of people (myself included) forget that Nintendo's business is all about gaming. It's a unique business position for them to be in. Their primary source of revenue is gaming. Their business was built on gaming. Every product they produce is about gaming. Regardless of any other media options they supply, it still comes down to one thing; gaming.
Thus it is and always will be in the company's best interest to secure as many people gaming with Nintendo products as possible, and the best way to do that is to push more people into gaming, and encouraging the public perception that gaming is 'normal' and part of every day life. Wii did it by expanding the audience, and the 3DS is attempting to do it by providing people with a new accessory that doesn't replace any existing accessories.
Cafe will be all about not just getting more people gaming, but getting people gaming more frequently and without restrictions. Think about e-shop titles. What if two people in the same house could play seperate smaller downloaded titles on their own controller in seperate rooms? Two people using the same system in different ways at the same time.
I really think this will be their angle.
Father_Brain said:
If the 3DS could be used as a controller or a place to stream content they could integrate the 3DS into a Cafe home quite easily. As for the motion controls, I have no idea. I like the idea of a tablet, because I know it works, but I hate the idea of losing the pointer and motion controls.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
I agree with this. I have a 57 inch TV and I would love it if that TV displays a scoreboard in HD while I hunch over and look at a 6 inch tablet. It will be as exciting as this
Don't mind me though, I also go to restaurants and order a steak, but only eat the garnish, and I also really enjoy Marvel Vs Capcom 3 online solely because I didn't want to watch the fight, just name cards dry humping each other.
CoffeeJanitor
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Pretty sure they've been using HD assets in their games for a while. Check out the Dolphin thread.AndyD said:
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Luckyman said:
and we are back to conflicting rumors. awesome
THE:MILKMAN
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Luckyman said:
They seem to claim the 3DS has 512MB ram. I thought it had 128MB?
What's almost as interesting as the rumours themselves right now are the topics not being addressed by the speculation. For example, how much RAM does Project Cafe have? With the 3DS packing 512MB, we would expect more: at least 1GB. And what about onboard storage: iOS-style flash RAM, SD card support or onboard HDD? Assuming an optical drive, is it DVD or Blu-ray based? Can movies be streamed across to the controllers too?Luckyman said:
When did this happen?
DimmuBurgerKing
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From The Dust said:
Especially anyone who was ALIVE during the 80's and 90's. The name was synonymous with video games.
Xdrive05 said:
There's no way in my mind they would put out a system with a '2' or 'HD' in the name, making it a sequel diminishes the significance of the console and the console before it, and HD has far too many specific things associated with it and is becoming a meaningless buzz word, they wouldn't want to be so attached to it.
We're more likely to get "Super Wii" or some completely new made up nonsense word. Since it's "Project Cafe", perhaps something fancy and french sounding.
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THE:MILKMAN said:
It has 128MB. They're wrong.
Seeing as it will most likely be backwards-compatible with Wii, it is possible that both the Wii remote and tablet controllers will be encouraged as input methods for this system.
Expanding upon somebody else's idea of players setting traps in a party game with the main player(s) on the big screen: the main player(s) could be using the Wii remote to interact with the screen, whilst the other players are using the tablet devices.
The tablet controller will be great for games like Mario Kart, where it can be used as a wheel and an alternative to split-screen. For Pokémon Stadium, you can easily select your moves without an opponent seeing what's next. For games like Zelda, it can be used as a dungeon map and inventory.
I'm not sure how it could benefit a game like Wii Sports, but for New Super Mario Bros. it could provide a nice close-up on your area of the screen, without stretching and expanding to accommodate all of the other players. This way, people wouldn't die after getting "lost" off the screen.
Expanding upon somebody else's idea of players setting traps in a party game with the main player(s) on the big screen: the main player(s) could be using the Wii remote to interact with the screen, whilst the other players are using the tablet devices.
The tablet controller will be great for games like Mario Kart, where it can be used as a wheel and an alternative to split-screen. For Pokémon Stadium, you can easily select your moves without an opponent seeing what's next. For games like Zelda, it can be used as a dungeon map and inventory.
I'm not sure how it could benefit a game like Wii Sports, but for New Super Mario Bros. it could provide a nice close-up on your area of the screen, without stretching and expanding to accommodate all of the other players. This way, people wouldn't die after getting "lost" off the screen.
Dr.Palutena
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nintendo have been breaking into our houses at night and upgrading the ram in our 3dses.Exuro said:
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