Freezie KO
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First they intentionally leak their new console, and then they do a stealth conference right under GAF's nose. That wily Nintendo!
Stephen Colbert said:The Wii succeeded because of motion controls. It's success was held back by poor graphics. I don't think anyone can argue that a Wii at $249 with both motion controls and better graphics wouldn't have sold much better.
The Gamecube in 2002/2003 was discounted to $99 and still selling at a profit.
From all indications, the Wii was a overclocked gamecube with a new control interface.
So given that, there was a decent amount of room for Nintendo to make the Wii more powerful, while still selling it at a profit. They probably could have used a dual core configuration of the Gamecube's cpu and gpu and wound up with a console capable of 720p, priced it at $249 and still sold it for a profit.
Had they done that, I contend that they would have made more money in the long run for all the reasons before...
appealing to both casuals and to core gamers
having much longer legs
getting more multiplatform titles
not peaking two-three years into the console and then rapidly losing sales and never recovering the earlier sales since.
Freezie KO said:First they intentionally leak their new console, and then they do a stealth conference right under GAF's nose. That wily Nintendo!
Sadist said:http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/04/26/nintendo_million_sellers/
NSMB Wii almost at 22 million and Donkey Kong CR at almost 5 million.
That's a big call. 80 million in the next 2 years?agrajag said:Doubtful. At the rate they've been selling, it'll take them another five years to catch up. By that time both Wii and Wii2 would have sold a combined 160 million units, I'd wager.
mj1108 said:Next up: Stealth reveal....then stealth release.
indedd lol.Krev said:So all this time we were wrong about the time of the meeting.
Hilarious.
Freezie KO said:I can't wait to find out on Twitter that Project Cafe was released last holiday season.
Chuck Norris said:That's a big call. 80 million in the next 2 years?
I'd say 30 million from 360 the way it is selling faster than ever, and PS3 yet to drop to a mass market price.... Seems a little more likely.
Stephen Colbert said:So given that, there was a decent amount of room for Nintendo to make the Wii more powerful, while still selling it at a profit. They probably could have used a dual core configuration of the Gamecube's cpu and gpu and wound up with a console capable of 720p, priced it at $249 and still sold it for a profit.
Kandinsky said:indedd lol.
jufonuk said:probably been guessed at (haven't had time to look through all the pages) but ono was talking about the 3DS connecting to project cafe meaning SSFIV on project Cafe?? of SSFIV:AE?
ohhh SSFIV:AE on cafe...3DS downloads extra characters? that's it 3DS SSFIV:AE then?
jufonuk said:probably been guessed at (haven't had time to look through all the pages) but ono was talking about the 3DS connecting to project cafe meaning SSFIV on project Cafe?? of SSFIV:AE?
ohhh SSFIV:AE on cafe...3DS downloads extra characters? that's it 3DS SSFIV:AE then?
Wii sales have bottomed out, and will bottom out even further now that the next gen system has been announced. Isn't it the worst selling system in every territory now?confuziz said:But you are expecting 0 sales for the Wii. I think that seems a little less likely.
Chuck Norris said:Wii sales have bottomed out, and will bottom out even further now that the next gen system has been announced. Isn't it the worst selling system in every territory now?
NopeChuck Norris said:Wii sales have bottomed out, and will bottom out even further now that the next gen system has been announced. Isn't it the worst selling system in every territory now?
Chuck Norris said:Isn't it the worst selling system in every territory now?
Stephen Colbert said:The Wii succeeded because of motion controls. It's success was held back by poor graphics. I don't think anyone can argue that a Wii at $249 with both motion controls and better graphics wouldn't have sold much better.
So given that, there was a decent amount of room for Nintendo to make the Wii more powerful, while still selling it at a profit. They probably could have used a dual core configuration of the Gamecube's cpu and gpu and wound up with a console capable of 720p, priced it at $249 and still sold it for a profit.
Chuck Norris said:That's a big call. 80 million in the next 2 years?
I'd say 30 million from 360 the way it is selling faster than ever, and PS3 yet to drop to a mass market price.... Seems a little more likely. That works out to an average of 1.25 million world wide per month. Very doable if Holiday sales continue to be huge.
Chuck Norris said:Wii sales have bottomed out, and will bottom out even further now that the next gen system has been announced. Isn't it the worst selling system in every territory now?
tablets - will be widely spread but thinks for better gaming response need buttons so won't have machines without buttons
freddy said:Wtf is this thread about? Has any info been released yet? All I can see is people arguing about shit that was thrashed like a dead horse years ago.
Stephen Colbert said:There was barely anything revealed at the investigator's meeting
Spike, like I said, the Gamecube was being sold for a retail price of $99 by Christmas of 2002, while still eeking out a small profit for Nintendo.
In 2006 (a full four years later), they could have easily used that same gamecube gpu and cpu in atleast a dual core configuration, probably even a triple or quad core configuration, and still managed to keep the costs of the console under $200, and sold it retail for $250.
They would have wound up with something signficiantly more powerful, capable of 720p and without breaking the bank.
Stephen Colbert said:What exactly is there to discuss?
Literally not working (ie not detecting heart rate etc) or just people don't see the appeal of it?Stephen Colbert said:It sounded like they couldn't get the vitality sensor working with more than 80% of the population, so they scrapped it for now, till they can get it to be usable by more people.
Is that how you guys are interpreting it too?
Stephen Colbert said:There was barely anything revealed at the investigator's meeting
Spike, like I said, the Gamecube was being sold for a retail price of $99 by Christmas of 2002, while still eeking out a small profit for Nintendo.
In 2006 (a full four years later), they could have easily used that same gamecube gpu and cpu in atleast a dual core configuration, probably even a triple or quad core configuration, and still managed to keep the costs of the console under $200, and sold it retail for $250.
They would have wound up with something signficiantly more powerful, capable of 720p and without breaking the bank.
szaromir said:Literally not working (ie not detecting heart rate etc) or just people don't see the appeal of it?
Freezie KO said:Literally not working. That's what the Twitter feed of the conference made it sound like. As if they don't want to release it until it's a reliable product for 99% of the population, rather than 80%. Maybe we're just living with 20% zombies?
Mael said:So now on top of not knowing what the hell you're talking about on the business side you actually show that you don't know what the hell you're talking about on the tech side?
protip :
IBM power pc is what's powering the GC/Wii,
the dual/quad core version of that processor is actually powering the 360 (along with another branch that lead to the Cell).
Seriously drop it now, there's no shame in letting this thread die until we get new info.
Stephen Colbert said:Again, you're ignoring the facts.
It is a fact that the Gamecube was being sold for a mere $99 just an year or two into it's life.
It is a fact that the Wii launched at $249, a full four years later, with an overclocked version of what's in the game cube.
Basic math dictates that they could have roughly doubled the transistor count, or hell just stuck dual GC cpus and GC gpus in the thing , and still kept the cost under $200. That is at the bare minimum, given the four year gap, they probably could've done a hell of a lot more than that.
Claiming that Wii couldn't be anymore powerful than it was and manufactured for less than $249 or even $199 is just outright delusional. The components in it are a hell of a lot cheaper than that.
manueldelalas said:The Dreamcast 2 notion is incredibly stupid.
You fail to realize that neither the PS4 nor the Xbox 3 will get a quantum jump in graphics. This was true from the Saturn/N64/PS1 to the Dreamcast/GCN/PS2, the graphics were so bad in that day, that you could notice the difference between Dreamcast/PS2 graphics; but now there isn't much ahead to jump in graphics; an updated Xbox360 or PS3 or Stream Cafe is the best you'll get with current technology.
Developers won't bleed money so you can see the hair inside the nose of the main character... If 2D peaked with NeoGeo, 3D peaks here;
Uh, I thought the Gamecube dropped to 99 dollars on september 2003??Stephen Colbert said:Again, you're ignoring the facts.
It is a fact that the Gamecube was being sold for a mere $99 just an year or two into it's life.
It is a fact that the Wii launched at $249, a full four years later, with an overclocked version of what's in the game cube.
Basic math dictates that they could have roughly doubled the transistor count, or hell just stuck dual GC cpus and GC gpus in the thing , and still kept the cost under $200. That is at the bare minimum, given the four year gap, they probably could've done a hell of a lot more than that.
Claiming that Wii couldn't be anymore powerful than it was and manufactured for less than $249 or even $199 is just outright delusional. The components in it are a hell of a lot cheaper than that.
Wolves Evolve said:This is now a mental health issue. Please stop.
Stephen Colbert said:You've been added to my ignore list. I suggest you do likewise rather than repeatedly troll my posts.