Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012

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filler said:
The 3DS bombed?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think they had initially good sales at launch even if it came out a bit lower than the estimates. They have since had poor sales of mainly software but also handhelds.
 
Plinko said:
Except this isn't Nintendo "keeping up with the joneses" in any way, shape, or form. That's not even close to what is happening here.

that's pretty much all it is. trying to attract the "core gamer" where the "core game" is someone who wants to play call of duty, and call of duty knockoffs with thumbsticks (because m+kb is too hard lol!)

like the 3DS the Wii U looks and sounds like a hardware revision. like the 3DS it is (or will be) underpowered compared to other consoles of the same gen, though in its defence at least it'll be more powerful than a one year old fucking cellphone

it'll also be more expensive than the PS3/360 and have far worse online and a bunch of downgrades like he 3DS

and of course it lacks immediacy of the wii, kinect or the original DS. doomed
 
Sipowicz said:
that's pretty much all it is. trying to attract the "core gamer" where the "core game" is someone who wants to play call of duty, and call of duty knockoffs with thumbsticks (because m+kb is too hard lol!)

like the 3DS the Wii U looks and sounds like a hardware revision. like the 3DS it is (or will be) underpowered compared to other consoles of the same gen, though in its defence at least it'll be more powerful than a one year old fucking cellphone

it'll also be more expensive than the PS3/360 and have far worse online and a bunch of downgrades like he 3DS

and of course it lacks immediacy of the wii, kinect or the original DS. doomed

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Sipowicz said:
i'm guessing the wii u is going to bomb spectacularly. think worse than the 3DS, for much the same reasons as the 3DS

nintendo trying keep up with the joneses never works out well
I'll save two slices of humble pie for you. Your first slice will be eaten sometime in January.

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Sipowicz said:
that's pretty much all it is. trying to attract the "core gamer" where the "core game" is someone who wants to play call of duty, and call of duty knockoffs with thumbsticks (because m+kb is too hard lol!)

like the 3DS the Wii U looks and sounds like a hardware revision. like the 3DS it is (or will be) underpowered compared to other consoles of the same gen, though in its defence at least it'll be more powerful than a one year old fucking cellphone

it'll also be more expensive than the PS3/360 and have far worse online and a bunch of downgrades like he 3DS

and of course it lacks immediacy of the wii, kinect or the original DS. doomed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpFg52bpzZM&NR=1
 
nintendo is a company that peaks and troughs. we've had the peaks this gen and they were wonderful

now it's time for the troughs
 
I really like the idea of having the tablet on a stand on the table and playing a game with the wiimote+nunchuck and having the tablet be a secondary screen. It'd probably work as inventory or whatever but you would point at the tablet to access a seperate menu. Real time weapon change! Or what if it was a constant comlink to a NPC that was navigating you, or you could monitor two seperate missions at the same time and swap between the computer controlled player on the tablet screen and what you're controlling on your TV, essentially swapping locals, positions, and characters instantaneously across a single level.
 
Sipowicz said:
nintendo is a company that peaks and troughs. we've had the peaks this gen and they were wonderful

now it's time for the troughs
I've seen good trolling before. This isn't one of those times.

Cmd. Pishad'aç said:
We need a thread to brainstorm about using both the Wiimote and uTablet for singleplayer.

Like the Golf example on the E3 trailer.

Time for the first ever T-ball game where the screen shows the ball and the Tee while the Wiimote works as the bat.
 
Sipowicz said:
that's pretty much all it is. trying to attract the "core gamer" where the "core game" is someone who wants to play call of duty, and call of duty knockoffs with thumbsticks (because m+kb is too hard lol!)

like the 3DS the Wii U looks and sounds like a hardware revision. like the 3DS it is (or will be) underpowered compared to other consoles of the same gen, though in its defence at least it'll be more powerful than a one year old fucking cellphone

it'll also be more expensive than the PS3/360 and have far worse online and a bunch of downgrades like he 3DS

and of course it lacks immediacy of the wii, kinect or the original DS. doomed

There are about 5 or 6 things here that you refer to as definite happenings when, in fact, you have no clue how they'll turn out.
 
walking fiend said:
nsmb wii is, as long as I remember, around 370MB.
edit: scrubbed, it is actually 357MB.


considering it is flash memory, we shouldn't expect it to be much higher because of the cost (considering it is nintendo, and that it is cheap, I really believe it will be 8 at most, 16 will be a dream)

Still even with 8 GB, a game like NSMB Mii will not take up enough space to deny it from kicking off DD on Wii U.

That is if Nintendo really cares about DD.
 
I know, fighter will suck on a different controller, etc...just a question...

Lets use street fighter as an example. Would it be remotely feasible to be in a lobby, and when its not your turn, you could have the option of either watching the current match, or using the Umote screen as a training ground between rounds? It would just be training mode with no options or anything. Doable right?
 
abstract alien said:
I know, fighter will suck on a different controller, etc...just a question...

Lets use street fighter as an example. Would it be remotely feasible to be in a lobby, and when its not your turn, you could have the option of either watching the current match, or using the Umote screen as a training ground between rounds? It would just be training mode with no options or anything. Doable right?


I don't see why not.
 
rezuth said:
Nah, he'll just give it to Chair and say "Make it work"
Whatever works for both parties.

guek said:
every time someone says nintendo is doomed, another soccer mom buys wii fit :-D
I seriously suspect that's how it actually goes.

Cmd. Pishad'aç said:
We need a thread to brainstorm about using both the Wiimote and uTablet for singleplayer.
A visor and a sidearm + melee weapon combo is a no-brainer - you can look, shoot and hack in independent directions, 360 degrees around you. Another one is fusing the tablet and wiimote together for a scope-style action, and that one can work when not even aiming at the tv screen (dual gyros + accel). That could take the light-gun genre to new levels. Actually, the possibilities for the survival horror genre should be boundless..
 
Cmd. Pishad'aç said:
We need a thread to brainstorm about using both the Wiimote and uTablet for singleplayer.

Like the Golf example on the E3 trailer.
Elite Beat Agents WiiU.

That is all.

EDIT: Wait, you meant pointing the Wiimote at the controller screen. Nevermind.
 
blu said:
Whatever works for both parties.


I seriously suspect that's how it actually goes.


A visor and a sidearm + melee weapon combo is a no-brainer - you can look, shoot and hack in independent directions, 360 degrees around you. Another one is fusing the tablet and wiimote together for a scope-style action, and that one can work when not even aiming at the tv screen (dual gyros + accel). That could take the light-gun genre to new levels. Actually, the possibilities for the survival horror genre should be boundless..


The Scope Idea was shown at E3, actually.
With this weird Find Mii type game.
 
Cmd. Pishad'aç said:
No, I mean just using it along the uTablet. Golf was an example.
Elite Beat Agents. The opposite of what you're thinking. The dancing screen is the TV, the comic is the Umote. You follow the TV instructions using the Umote.

Put your hands up right now as if you're holding a umote. now do the motions you would do in the game if you had to follow it on a TV screen. Ta-da ! now you're dancing like a white man
 
Strife91 said:
Ok. I were trying to find some kind of clue on when we may get to know some of the tech specs.
Chances are the models of the final parts (core counts and architectures) along with the type and amount of RAM will be leaked by the end of the year or shortly after, though. Frankly, I'm shocked that no source has leaked the RAM amount.
 
With all the talking these 3rd party heads are doing about the wii u they better have something to show for it come launch. From EA I want Mass Effect Trilogy complete with all dlc at launch for anywhere from $60 to $80 dollars but no higher.
 
artwalknoon said:
With all the talking these 3rd party heads are doing about the wii u they better have something to show for it come launch. From EA I want Mass Effect Trilogy complete with all dlc at launch for anywhere from $60 to $80 dollars but no higher.
Eh...

Maybe they'd do the first two, but the third would be separate.
 
artwalknoon said:
With all the talking these 3rd party heads are doing about the wii u they better have something to show for it come launch. From EA I want Mass Effect Trilogy complete with all dlc at launch for anywhere from $60 to $80 dollars but no higher.
It will be Madden with no online, no on-screen plays, and no DLC support.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
It will be Madden with no online, no on-screen plays, and no DLC support.
The no online and no dlc I can imagine happening. But the on-screen play calling is all but confirmed at this point. The kicker is that only 1 player will have access to this private method of play calling while your buddy will have to call plays on the tv and hope you're nice enough to close your eyes or look away.
 
artwalknoon said:
The no online and no dlc I can imagine happening. But the on-screen play calling is all but confirmed at this point. The kicker is that only 1 player will have access to this private method of play calling while your buddy will have to call plays on the tv and hope you're nice enough to close your eyes or look away.
Nintendo really needs to reconsider that decision. I mean, really? This is the time when you decide that you don't want to make us buy something? I can only guess that they feel that it's not worth it to charge for a controller if there's not a 500% mark-up.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
It will be Madden with no online, no on-screen plays, and no DLC support.

I love how everyone was making a big deal about how this controller would be perfect for Madden (on screen plays) but now that there isn't local multiplayer, that feature is completely useless :lol
 
Madden with two-controller enabled gameplay could be a system mover.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/07/tech/gamecore/main20077419.shtml

A late recap of E3. Nothing new, but just an interesting read for seeing another person's perspective on a non-gaming oriented site.

And I kinda chuckled at this.

The controller is light and the buttons are large though the analog sticks feel a little short.

Welcome to the world of circle pads Christina.

Cmd. Pishad'aç said:

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BurntPork said:
I also found out that Wii U is smaller than Gamecube, so I think my concern is reasonable.
Gamecube also had the four controller ports and a top loading drive tho, both required (more) space.
 
Anth0ny said:
I love how everyone was making a big deal about how this controller would be perfect for Madden (on screen plays) but now that there isn't local multiplayer, that feature is completely useless :lol
At this point, I would be really, really surprised if, at some point (not necessarily launch), Nintendo did not start selling multiple controllers and supporting them.

I think third parties are going to want them to do it and Nintendo will just go "Well, I guess we can turn the screens off/make what they show super simple."

It is the Motion+ of this controller, the thing it needed from the beginning but couldn't figure out how to do.
 
Anth0ny said:
I love how everyone was making a big deal about how this controller would be perfect for Madden (on screen plays) but now that there isn't local multiplayer, that feature is completely useless :lol
Has no local play been confirmed for Madden? Did I miss something? I didn't even realize the game had been officially announced!
 
artwalknoon said:
Has no local play been confirmed for Madden? Did I miss something? I didn't even realize the game had been officially announced!

There should still be local play, but not with multiple Wii U controllers.
 
The real question about the controller is, besides the main one not considered being offered separately now, is what is Nintendo going to do about the other controller options? They're going to expect every game to make a standard Wii U controller scheme with the new controller and THEN design a game around the Wii remote everyone has had problems making a decent control scheme for - and do that in addition to the Wii U controller?

That's messed up. And as I understand it, classic controllers have to hook to the Wii remote to play a game? So buying additional controllers that could *possibly* use a classic scheme would mean buying a Wii remote AND a classic controller?

Seriously, why doesn't Nintendo do the simple thing, and just flat out release a new classic/dual shock type controller for this console to be played in addition for multiplayer games. Or even one step further, which they'll never do because they're not about giving people options anymore - a different cheaper Wii U SKU with just a classic controller and not the Wii U controller. It could still be compatible with games that don't require a Wii U controller. It would be no different than Microsoft offering options with the Kinect bundles or Sony with the Move bundles.

At the very least, if not a SKU, just make a damn new regular controller, how hard is that?
 
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