Smiles and Cries
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I don't care about Smash anymore
I hope they give Skaurai something new after Smash for the WiiU
I hope they give Skaurai something new after Smash for the WiiU
Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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Oh, so that stuff was fake then.
Error Macro
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D'oh! Damn public educational system!
bgassassin
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No such thing a a little chaos when it comes to the Internet.
Paul, should we be worried about the Wii U's technical aspects? That's vague enough right?
Pssh. You don't need him to know you don't need to be worried.
There's a countdown clock in the OP.
Yeah it's all a balancing act between resolution, cost, bandwidth to transmit images/image quality. I imagine Nintendo will prioritise quality and frame rate over resolution.
A question for the tech-literate among us.
I read somewhere that Nintendo develops their games with high-resolution assets even though the Wii can't display them. Assuming these are on the disc, would it be possible for Wii U to play old Wii games in HD? If not, would it be feasible to allow users to download the HD assets for the games via patch or something?
I read somewhere that Nintendo develops their games with high-resolution assets even though the Wii can't display them. Assuming these are on the disc, would it be possible for Wii U to play old Wii games in HD? If not, would it be feasible to allow users to download the HD assets for the games via patch or something?
AceBandage
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frame rate is a non-issue. Nothing is stopping companies from making games with high fps right now. They choose not to.
I was meaning with regard to the tablet and streaming to it from the console. Nintendo I think would sacrifice resolution for it to be able to support 60fps.
Smiles and Cries
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154 days!!! thats like forever 
leak! leak! leak!
leak! leak! leak!
Yes, I'm repeating myself, I don't care...
Zelda and Skyrim must have a baby, fuck the haters. Open world Zelda all the way. Dark Crystal looks and feel...gritty but still fantastical.
F-Zero just has to happen. Nintendo, fucking do it for the core, just to show you love them.
Waverace. What a fucking gorgeous game this could be on next-gen hardware.
DQ X better have a massive graphics upgrade on the Wii-U
2D Mario game that actually uses the Wii-U's power to its fullest. Make that shit look like a goddamn Toy Story game.
Zelda and Skyrim must have a baby, fuck the haters. Open world Zelda all the way. Dark Crystal looks and feel...gritty but still fantastical.
F-Zero just has to happen. Nintendo, fucking do it for the core, just to show you love them.
Waverace. What a fucking gorgeous game this could be on next-gen hardware.
DQ X better have a massive graphics upgrade on the Wii-U
2D Mario game that actually uses the Wii-U's power to its fullest. Make that shit look like a goddamn Toy Story game.
Nuclear Muffin
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Some games with 2D art clearly use HD resolution assets on Wii (Rayman Origins, NSMB Wii, Kirby's Epic Yarn etc) and almost all Wii games have HD resolution HUDSs (unlike the GCN)
It's obvious that it's preparation for their inevitable future Virtual Console re-release on the hardware after Wii U (7-10 years from now)
RyanReedyMusic
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Yeah they did and to add to it you forgot the part where they said to make a WII Centipede out of 3 of the massive controllers to play it.
Nintendo is also entering into e-readers stuff through WiiU.. interesting stuff..
http://www.forgetthebox.net/mag/culture/forum-m/nintendo-e-readers.php
It could be interesting to see if multiple wiiU controllers can be use for this purpose.. can be cheaper way of having tablets functionality.. its like WiiU gives local cloud services..
http://www.forgetthebox.net/mag/culture/forum-m/nintendo-e-readers.php
It could be interesting to see if multiple wiiU controllers can be use for this purpose.. can be cheaper way of having tablets functionality.. its like WiiU gives local cloud services..
iamaustrian
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ugh
the last thing I want is a 2D mario which looks like a CGI shitfest.
how about a true pixelart 2D mario? it's about time. fuck that 2,5D crap(well, at least SMBWii had some charme).
When I saw Wario land shake it I fantasized about a Mario game with those graphics. Not pixel graphics, but hey gorgeous 2D.
2nd party is where its at.
Oh my God, I was watching these trailers for the billionth rime yesterday, and if HAWKEN was an exclusive...
Also, HI PAUL.
Considering your position and connections in the industry, I can fully understand your caution in revealing information. I believe there are some things that wouldn't compromise your stance in all of this, however: is the game a first or third party title, for instance? How long has it been in development? Are the two versions to work together, or are they separate?
You know more than anyone how scarce info has been since E3, so any answers will be wholly appreciated!
Never the less, thanks for coming on and setting a few things straight for us. It must be very difficult operating in the position you're in!
blu
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Not strong, yet alone conclusive evidence. Assuming everything seen is true, Retro could've used parts of UE's pipeline and still not used an in-game runtime one would call UE for anything else but asset loading. That if their assets did not get further post-processing after whatever UE stages they passed through.
These guys probably would not have known anything about the WiiU.
But when they saw it, that tablet controller... they were inspired.
Add to the fact that Nintendo was looking for partnerships, and in particular western developers, these guys decided to have a talk with the big N.
Nintendo saw their demos and were quite impressed by the art style and sound effects.
They especially liked the fact that this team was small, yet productive. They asked a lot of questions about online, the gameplay and gave some advice. Finally, they asked them, "Can you make three of those? We want an exclusive series for our new console. You will have a year and a half to get the first game ready for our launch. And we will show off this game on our stage during E3"
It had to have happened.
I think you're making scenarios up in your head
But it's not at all unlikely. It's just a bit... different.
Adhesive consider themselves as Indie developers. Now this could mean two things. either:
a) Nintendo won't do business with them and bring HAWKEN to the WiiU because this is there debut title and they are an 'inexperienced' team, or
b) Nintendo has identified their talent and has adopted them to work on the WiiU, picking them up as another western first party developer/partner, a la RETRO.
But it's not at all unlikely. It's just a bit... different.
Adhesive consider themselves as Indie developers. Now this could mean two things. either:
a) Nintendo won't do business with them and bring HAWKEN to the WiiU because this is there debut title and they are an 'inexperienced' team, or
b) Nintendo has identified their talent and has adopted them to work on the WiiU, picking them up as another western first party developer/partner, a la RETRO.
Smiles and Cries
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HAWKEN could easily had fallen off the radar to surface on the NEXT BOX
the uPad would be great for this game in many ways. You can use the screen when you go to cockpit view
nice dreams guys
the uPad would be great for this game in many ways. You can use the screen when you go to cockpit view
nice dreams guys
I think giving a Mario title the kind of detail his character model has in Super Smash Bros. Brawl will at least be interesting.
I like the food metaphors! And I doubt we'll get anything from CES. GDC, however... some tasty info, lots of rumours...
I wonder what kind of meal Kojima considers the Wii-U.
This is what I thought with Battalion Wars - using a top down map to organise and command troops and vehicles etc.
The Upad would be perfect for a tower defence game too. One player places defences on the controller in 2D birds eye view, whilst the other runs through the map in 3D, taking out the defences with their army.
Smiles and Cries
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It really depends if MS shows off anything at CES then we will have a war for the spotlight
If the Next Box specs are as good as the rumors say then maybe Nintendo will just stay quiet until E3 anyway
If the Next Box specs are as good as the rumors say then maybe Nintendo will just stay quiet until E3 anyway
fabricated backlash
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Hell it would work just as well in games like Battlefield. The return of a commander mode would work perfect with the UPad. Even squadleaders and normal soldiers would have quick access to maps, drop points, to draw Points of INterests, designate flanking positions, call out tanks, pinpoint mortar fire etc etc.
The practical uses of the UPad are limitless,
which is why I expect not a single 3rd party developer to use it at all.
JoshuaJSlone
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Pixel density isn't far off. Based on the size you give and going with a 6.2" diagonal 16:9 screen for Wii U controller: If the Kindle Fire screen was cropped to Wii U size it would be about 912x514 whereas we're expecting Wii U pad to be 854x480.Smiles and Cries said:
All the rumors are so vague that the Wii U and the next Xbox could range from nearly identical to worlds apart, performance wise. And taking recent trends into account, an Xbox Fusion the size of two DVD cases and performing like four iPads duct taped together could happen. It could be ARM based and passively cooled for all we know.
Smiles and Cries
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so its not as bad as people have been complaining it to be?
people will still love e-ink over this low res screen I guess
Yeah, the resolution isn't that bad when taking the Upad's pixel density into account. They may up it for launch, but it'd be fine if they didn't. Or at least, I'd be happy.
AceBandage
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Wait, why are we discussing HAWKEN?
Did something get announced?
Did something get announced?
Hmm, here's a "making of" trailer for the killer freaks trailer. Pretty interesting stuff, though it tells us nothing about the game itself.
No, people were discussing third party western exclusives, and someone mentioned the fact that HAWKEN had gone off the radar, and had yet to be confirmed for a platform, so naturally people assumed it has to be the WiiU.
There could be no other explanation really could there?
Was that all in-game footage?
The only other possible explanation would be that they all have decided to prepare for the "end times".
This controller has all sorts of bad-ass uses.
I think I preferred it when this thread was about specs rather than about which small indie developer might have been acquired by Nintendo.
With that in mind, here are the specs I think the Wii U will have:
CPU:
2.8Ghz symmetric 4-core with 2-way SMT
Out-of-order execution
128kB SRAM L2 cache per core, 12MB eDRAM L3 cache shared
GPU:
700Mhz clock speed
800 shader units
RAM:
1GB GDDR5
512MB 1T-SRAM
Answer: Probably none
With that in mind, here are the specs I think the Wii U will have:
CPU:
2.8Ghz symmetric 4-core with 2-way SMT
Out-of-order execution
128kB SRAM L2 cache per core, 12MB eDRAM L3 cache shared
GPU:
700Mhz clock speed
800 shader units
RAM:
1GB GDDR5
512MB 1T-SRAM
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