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[TheExplodingHead]

Yeah, TGS is the only place they can show it this year aside from a Nintendo event. Hopefully we'll get a few real games shown off and a bit more concrete info.

I also expect the SS release date to be revealed there.

 

[Mr_Brit]

Realistically, when does Gaf think Nintendo will show this again? Later this year? Next E3?

I came away from E3 wanting to know more, and all we've had since then is a bunch of conflicting rumor and speculation.

Realistically in the West it won't be shown this year again.

 

[_Alkaline_]

The possibility that Nintendo may offer downloadable GC titles warms my heart. It's virtually impossible to find new or used GC games at retail in Australia, and many of them have reached rare status.

 

[Instro]

Realistically, when does Gaf think Nintendo will show this again? Later this year? Next E3?

I came away from E3 wanting to know more, and all we've had since then is a bunch of conflicting rumor and speculation.

The console itself? The only place it might happen is at their fall conference, either that or it won't be seen again till GDC. Nintendo rarely if ever shows at TGS, but we might see 1 or 2 3rd party WiiU announcements there.

 

[VOOK]

The possibility that Nintendo may offer downloadable GC titles warms my heart. It's virtually impossible to find new or used GC games at retail in Australia, and many of them have reached rare status.

Gotta know where to look

 

[DECK'ARD]

The console itself? The only place it might happen is at their fall conference, either that or it won't be seen again till GDC. Nintendo rarely if ever shows at TGS, but we might see 1 or 2 3rd party WiiU announcements there.

The Wii remote reveal was a keynote at TGS.

I'd expect something similar at this TGS, with them explaining the concept of the system a lot better than they did at E3.

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

Nintendo of America's response to Wii U's downloadable GameCube games:

"To clarify the capabilities of the Wii U system: As correctly stated, Wii U will not play Nintendo GameCube discs, however Nintendo has not made any announcements regarding downloadable content."

http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-won-t-confirm-download-gamecube-games-for-wii-u-206606.phtml

Yeah, pretty much a backhanded confirmation (otherwise they would've denied it).

 

[mAcOdIn]

Yeah, pretty much a backhanded confirmation (otherwise they would've denied it).

Xenoblade coming to the US?

 

[ecosse_011172]

Why are those juniors not banned for insulting pple???weid....

This junior snobbery nonsense is the most shameful thing about GAF, it makes me cringe with embarassment.

 

[DECK'ARD]

Yeah, pretty much a backhanded confirmation (otherwise they would've denied it).

They won't rule out something that can possibly be done in the future, even if they have no plans to do it at the moment.

Because of the size of them, and Nintendo's track-record, it's more likely to be done as HD re-releases. Although apart from Wind Waker, I'm not sure what GC titles would have enough pull to deserve that.

 

[walking fiend]

They won't rule out something that can possibly be done in the future, even if they have no plans to do it at the moment.

Because of the size of them, and Nintendo's track-record, it's more likely to be done as HD re-releases. Although apart from Wind Waker, I'm not sure what GC titles would have enough pull to deserve that.

I'd buy Eternal Darkness. I think there are a few more as well; but anyway, I never bothered with getting one for Wii cause I had to buy a new controller and memory card just for playing these two games.

 

[disap.ed]

Although apart from Wind Waker, I'm not sure what GC titles would have enough pull to deserve that.

Metal Gear Solid HD Collection including Twin Snakes (IIRC low poly count was the reason to not include the original on PS360).

 

[DECK'ARD]

It will never happen, but an HD version of F-Zero GX would be enough to buy the console on the spot.

 

[Rolf NB]

Xenoblade coming to the US?

Webkit browser coming to the PS3?

 

[TheExplodingHead]

Now that we're on the subject, I'd buy a HD Luigi's Mansion. Loved that game!

 

[_Alkaline_]

Gotta know where to look

I don't think I've seen a retail GC game since 2006. Should've bought em all when I had the chance.

 

[Oblivion]

Has there been any new tech info that's been leaked? (cpu, gpu, RAM, etc)

 

[DECK'ARD]

Has there been any new tech info that's been leaked? (cpu, gpu, RAM, etc)

Nope, Nintendo's ninjas sent boxes containing various bodyparts of a former Ubisoft employee as a warning to other publishers.

And it seems to have worked.

 

[wsippel]

Webkit browser coming to the PS3?

The latest Netfront browsers (the one the 3DS uses for example) are based on Webkit. Don't know if that spawned the rumor or something...

 

[Jackano]

Downloadables games:

They better do it.
Actually, we can hope for some GC games to be released. It will be something like 10 in the entiere lifespan of the system, like the Virtual Console N64 games :lol I don't bet Nintendo will do more than that. It sounds crazy to me to hope for more, like HD ports!

But in a perfect world, this is also the best way to get Xenoblades or Another Code R in the US. If NoA don't want to bother marketing those games on retail, they can at the very least make it downloadable on the next system. But they won't.

The latest Netfront browsers (the one the 3DS uses for example) are based on Webkit. Don't know if that spawned the rumor or something...

No it's a Mozilla.

 

[wsippel]

No it's a Mozilla.

3DS uses Access NetFront NX, which is based on WebKit. The user agent string is a bit misleading - they only mention Mozilla because they're compatible with the Mozilla rendering engine. Safari on iPad for example returns this user agent: "Mozilla/5.0 (iPad; U; CPU OS 3_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.21.10 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/7B405"

 

[NintendoGal]

Yep, they asked me to "correct" the interview, but I simply added their statement at bottom. Didn't want to edit what I was given originally, no matter if it was a mistake or not.

I knew it was coming though, they wouldn't announced something like that so casually.

 

[agrajag]

They won't rule out something that can possibly be done in the future, even if they have no plans to do it at the moment.

Because of the size of them, and Nintendo's track-record, it's more likely to be done as HD re-releases. Although apart from Wind Waker, I'm not sure what GC titles would have enough pull to deserve that.

I'd buy Wind Waker and F-Zero!

 

[Shikamaru Ninja]

Because of the size of them, and Nintendo's track-record, it's more likely to be done as HD re-releases. Although apart from Wind Waker, I'm not sure what GC titles would have enough pull to deserve that.

If history keeps repeating itself. Then yes, Nintendo may re-release an HD Classics lines for a select choice of games. But then again, the New Play Control series bombed. If you look at other publishers, they are surviving on actual collections with some type of "niche addition" like trophies that would actually drive enough people to replay them.

Hopefully Nintendo in 2012 releases those games as upscaled iso dumps on the digital market. Instead of iso dumps on the retail market in overpriced and lazy fashion.

 

[Betta Lines]

It will never happen, but an HD version of F-Zero GX would be enough to buy the console on the spot.

I'm still anticipating a new F-Zero as a Wii U launch title. Surely we are due one? Considering they skipped the Wii, and the Wii U is aiming to be more hardcore? Either that or a new Wave Race...

 

[BurntPork]

Xenoblade coming to the US?

There's a difference between "no plans" and "we haven't announced it."

 

[StevieP]

Yep, they asked me to "correct" the interview, but I simply added their statement at bottom. Didn't want to edit what I was given originally, no matter if it was a mistake or not.

I knew it was coming though, they wouldn't announced something like that so casually.

Thank you for extracting that little nugget. lol

And Xenoblade what where now?

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

There's a difference between "no plans" and "we haven't announced it."

Not really in this sense. From a PR perspective they're the same thing.

 

[Vinci]

Why wouldn't Nintendo continue successful brands from the Wii to its immediate successor? Hell, the thing's name is 'Wii U.' It's adding 'U' to the equation - yes, 'U' you picky bastard - while attempting to retain some of the qualities that made the Wii so successful.

 

[herzogzwei1989]

I'd like Wii U to get a port of Hi-Ten Bomberman, the first HD videogame ever made, even if it wasn't 1080p or 720p. Maybe 1035i or something. It was the same resolution as Hi-Vision, Japan's original HDTV standard from the 1980s and early 90s.

 

[donny2112]

You wasted a year. Wild World is the DS version.

I don't understand the appeal of the DS version over the GameCube version. Online wasn't a big deal to me, whereas the exclusion of NES games, real holidays, and GBA support were very big deals to lose. The furniture was almost all the same, unfortunately. Maybe people really like the scrolling world?

Hopefully AC Wii U/3DS will be a real Animal Crossing 2. Able to play bought VC games through the AC interface, mostly new stuff to get, connectivity coming back, maybe add adventure elements ala later Harvest Moon/Rune Factory games.

Main thing is the new items, though. Really don't want to collect the same furniture, statue, dinosaur sets again.

 

[Axkil aka StabMasterArson]

The possibility that Nintendo may offer downloadable GC titles warms my heart. It's virtually impossible to find new or used GC games at retail in Australia, and many of them have reached rare status.

Ya i know. It's near impossible for me to find a copy of Baten Kaitos 2

 

[bgassassin]

Yep, they asked me to "correct" the interview, but I simply added their statement at bottom. Didn't want to edit what I was given originally, no matter if it was a mistake or not.

I knew it was coming though, they wouldn't announced something like that so casually.

Good job maintaining journalistic integrity.


Pachter's Podium: Wii U 'Sweet Spot' at $249, Over $399 Would Be a 'Surprise'

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/...eet-spot-at-249-over-399-would-be-a-surprise/

It would surprise me a lot if the Wii U cost more than $399.99, and I think that the sweet spot is $249.99. Pricing really depends upon where the other console bundles (PS3 with Move and 360 with Kinect) are priced at the time the Wii U launches, because people who don't yet have a console are likely going to choose among the three offerings, and the biggest driver in the purchase decision is usually price.

I have repeatedly said I thought the next generation Wii should come out in 2009, then 2010, and when it was clear that it wasn't happening, have repeatedly said that a later launch was too late, as it will come too close to next generation launches from the other console manufacturers. Thus, the question now about whether the Wii U can compete with the PS4 and Xbox 720 is just a set up for me to say "I was right". I know how much all of the IndustryGamers readers like to acknowledge when I'm right, so thank you for a question that allows them to do so ;-)

 

[EDarkness]

I'm really expecting $349. Anything more than that and I'll have to wait for a price drop.

 

[AceBandage]

Over $300 would be a surprise.
There's no way it's $400.

 

[TheExplodingHead]

Looking at Nintendo's recent pricing trends with the DS/Wii/3DS, I think it's a forgone conclusion it'll be no less than $300 for the entrance model. I doubt Nintendo will do any lower priced barebones stuff, so the question is will Nintendo follow that trend and do a model that includes a external HDD/WiiRemotePlus/HDMI/etc, and one that doesn't? I doubt it but we'll see.

But I do agree with Pachter that $249 would be a amazing price to get systems moved fast and build a solid install base for all demographics. It would really shake up the market in a good way.

 

[_Alkaline_]

Ya i know. It's near impossible for me to find a copy of Baten Kaitos 2

Sarcasm? That game didn't come out in PAL-land.

 

[AceBandage]

Looking at Nintendo's recent pricing trends with the DS/Wii/3DS, I think it's a forgone conclusion it'll be no less than $300 for the entrance model. I doubt Nintendo will do any lower priced barebones stuff, so the question is will Nintendo follow that trend and do a model that includes a external HDD/WiiRemotePlus/HDMI/etc, and one that doesn't? I doubt it but we'll see.

But I do agree with Pachter that $249 would be a amazing price to get systems moved fast and build a solid install base for all demographics. It would really shake up the market in a good way.

I think the cool start of the 3DS will make the launch of the Wii U at $299.99.

 

[EDarkness]

I think the cool start of the 3DS will make the launch of the Wii U at $299.99.

Would be nice if they did that, but I have a feeling that they're trying to find a good balance with overall power and with all these discussions about how powerful the system is they might be willing to target a little higher price in order to get more out of the machine.

 

[bgassassin]

I'm really expecting $349. Anything more than that and I'll have to wait for a price drop.

This is the amount that I've been expecting.

 

[BurntPork]

Guys, keep in mind that Pahcter still thinks this is nothing more than the Wii HD and was made as an answer to Kinect. Really, suggesting that the best time for Nintendo to replace the Wii was 2009 is such a laughable idea that I don't get how anyone takes this guy seriously anymore.

 

[Plinko]

Good job maintaining journalistic integrity.


Pachter's Podium: Wii U 'Sweet Spot' at $249, Over $399 Would Be a 'Surprise'

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/...eet-spot-at-249-over-399-would-be-a-surprise/

The comment about higher than $399 is asinine. Who in their right mind would NOT be surprised if it launched at $400 or higher? That's a crazy price and would effectively kill any chance the system had of succeeding.

Now, $249 would be amazing for consumers. That's their best chance at getting a sizable userbase before the more powerful consoles are released 1 1/2 years later.

 

[AzaK]

Guys, keep in mind that Pahcter still thinks this is nothing more than the Wii HD and was made as an answer to Kinect. Really, suggesting that the best time for Nintendo to replace the Wii was 2009 is such a laughable idea that I don't get how anyone takes this guy seriously anymore.

Yeah I think 2009 was a little keen, but by now it should have been replaced IMO although hindsight is a great thing. I don't feel Nintendo really expected such a massive drop off over the last year.

 

[RurouniZel]

If the controller is too expensive to sell on its own, it'll be $400.

 

[specialguy]

I'm really expecting $349. Anything more than that and I'll have to wait for a price drop.

And that price is going to kill the system.

Look like it's not much if any more powerful than 360.

Except 360 has a ginormous library of cheap triple A back catalog of games already.

And will probably be priced at something like 129/199 4GB/250GB by then (I'm 100% sure at least one more 360 price drop by the time Wii U is out)

So you'll have like 149 360+ginormous library+kinect for casuals versus 349 Wii U with slightly better graphics and Nintendo games...

Wii U imo will do ok, not great, for the 1-2 years until the Xbox 720/Ps4 come out, then it's likely in trouble.

 

[The Bookerman]

250$ and they are in the ball park. Lower the price of the 3ds at the same time Please.

 

[EDarkness]

Look like it's not much if any more powerful than 360.

I wonder why people keep saying that? By all accounts it's definitely more powerful than the 360. The question is just by how much. I think they can get away with $349 as long as the spec is up to par and to be honest, I'd rather they go for more power instead of going after a lower price like $249. They can always lower the price at a later date.

 

[AceBandage]

They could get away with $400 even. However, they'd have to have a KILLER first day line up.
From first and third parties.
I don't think that's going to happen.
$300 is a more realistic expectation.

 

[saunderez]

If the controller is too expensive to sell on its own, it'll be $400.

$400 seems a bit steep, I'm guessing it'll be $350 at launch. There's no way they'll be able to price it as low as they priced the Wii, this isn't ancient hardware anymore.

 

[watershed]

They could get away with $400 even. However, they'd have to have a KILLER first day line up.
From first and third parties.
I don't think that's going to happen.
$300 is a more realistic expectation.

I think $300 is a realistic expectation for the wii u launch price, therefore Nintendo doesn't.