Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012

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The big thing I see the 3DS crisis doing to affect Wii U is that it really will drive Nintendo to get it right the first time- in both price and features. I wouldn't be surprised, for example, for the Wii U to pick up some legitimate storage by the time we see it again.
 
DSN2K said:
something New(well sort of...) on my trails of Google Pic search, I found some extremely high resolution shots of the controller.
here one resized...they are much larger 5mb shots!!
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link to the rest of them

http://ftp.futurenet.com/techradar/Review%20images/TechRadar/Home%20Entertainment/Nintendo%20Wii%20U%20review/
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Just noticed they're going with the SNES/DS button layout. It confuses me now. I'm too used to the DC/GC/Xbox layout.
 
StevieP said:
Despite lazy8s constant hammering of PowerVR tech being awesome, and the media's constant daily riding of apple-cock, mobile tech is not THAT mature. lol
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Damn physics ; )
 
beelzebozo said:
that looks freaking incredible and cool.

i cannot wait to get my hands on that controller.
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It's lovely to hold, its SO much more comfortable than it looks, it just melts into your hands. Impressive.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
The first few months for it will be rough. I'm betting, despite Ubisoft's comments otherwise, it will be getting a Revelations port instead of a new Assassin's Creed title. It won't be getting Skyoshock, it won't be getting Borderlands 2, it won't be getting Street Fighter X Tekken, it won't be getting Dragon's Dogma, One Piece Musou, Asura's Wrath, Persona 4 Fighter, etc., etc.

It may be getting ports from this winter.

But 2012 is going to have to ride on Nintendo games.
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I dunno, I actually think it'll ports of most of those, the Capcom titles especailly. Looking at it's lineup now there's a bunch more spring 2012 and later ports (Dragon Quest X, Metro LL, DarkSiders II, Ninja Gaiden 3, Ghost Recon Online, Aliens CM, etc) than winter 2011/2012 ports (just Batman AC really).
 
FreeMufasa said:
Just noticed they're going with the SNES/DS button layout. It confuses me now. I'm too used to the DC/GC/Xbox layout.
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GC ? On GC, B is also at the left of A, and Y at the left of X, even if the layout is a bit unusual... Same on Wiimote, classic controller, or even NES pad, they never changed the order.
 
maeda said:
What?? Now they can actually learn from from their mistakes with 3DS! But at the end of the day I am very happy that Vita will not be allowed to split the market and all the awesome games will come to 3DS.
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At this point. We still need to see that they've learned those lessons. Unfortunately, I'm not too sure about that. The "3DS Boat" being that thick is making me doubt Nintendo's engineers, so Wii U's size likely means that it's not more powerful than the current consoles by a significant amount. Also, 01net said that it's "just a notch" above current consoles, and at this point I'm taking anything they say as fact unless there's evidence otherwise or it sounds like pure speculation.
 
FreeMufasa said:
Just noticed they're going with the SNES/DS button layout. It confuses me now. I'm too used to the DC/GC/Xbox layout.
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Nintendo does that since Famicom/NES. For me it's the other way around. 360 Controller confuses me on the PC and DC's Controller too
DAMN SHENMUE1+2 QTEs
 
BurntPork said:
At this point. We still need to see that they've learned those lessons. Unfortunately, I'm not too sure about that. The "3DS Boat" being that thick is making me doubt Nintendo's engineers, so Wii U's size likely means that it's not more powerful than the current consoles by a significant amount. Also, 01net said that it's "just a notch" above current consoles, and at this point I'm taking anything they say as fact unless there's evidence otherwise or it sounds like pure speculation.
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Nothing to say it won't be a different design/bigger when we next see it.

It'd be great if Nintendo changed the name also.
 
I little while back I came across some fake Wii U trailers. Since things have slowed down I'll go ahead and post them.

Metroid - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbvLZfifNDw (Recently uploaded a "higher quality", but this one is better)

Zelda - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAzSGJfG1RA

DSN2K said:
something New(well sort of...) on my trails of Google Pic search, I found some extremely high resolution shots of the controller.
here one resized...they are much larger 5mb shots!!
http://i.picpar.com/93d3fa2d7e83ec149683ec479c15b26aa11c16b0.jpg

link to the rest of them

http://ftp.futurenet.com/techradar/Review%20images/TechRadar/Home%20Entertainment/Nintendo%20Wii%20U%20review/
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Thanks for the link. I look forward to holding this controller.

BurntPork said:
so Wii U's size likely means that it's not more powerful than the current consoles by a significant amount. Also, 01net said that it's "just a notch" above current consoles, and at this point I'm taking anything they say as fact unless there's evidence otherwise or it sounds like pure speculation.
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Please don't start this again. It's obvious the info they released was based on the first dev kit and devs since then have said that's not the case and they aren't speculating. And the size is irrelevant since they don't have to design it to compensate for an internal HDD and the heat it might produce.
 
I am extremely interested in what Wii U looks like when it re-emerges, probably next year.

Both the E3 reactions/confusion as well as the 3DS issues makes me wonder if/what will see changes.
 
I went through the same self denial when the underpowered rumors about the Wii came around, not this time. I'm sure the 01.net rumors are bang on.
We can only hope that the 3DS mess and gamer reaction will prompt them to make some improvements.
 
ecosse_011172 said:
I went through the same self denial when the underpowered rumors about the Wii came around, not this time. I'm sure the 01.net rumors are bang on.
We can only hope that the 3DS mess and gamer reaction will prompt them to make some improvements.
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The 01 rumors for the Wii U were based on the first dev kit.
 
bgassassin said:
Please don't start this again. It's obvious the info they released was based on the first dev kit and devs since then have said that's not the case and they aren't speculating. And the size is irrelevant since they don't have to design it to compensate for an internal HDD and the heat it might produce.
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I'll believe it when I see it. And they never said that it's not the case, at least as far as I know.

And the size is not irrelevant because adding an HDD wouldn't make it 3x bigger (which would be the size of the 360). Smaller size = less cooling = less power. It's simple as that. The GCN engineers are gone.
 
BurntPork said:
I'll believe it when I see it. And they never said that it's not the case, at least as far as I know.

And the size is not irrelevant because adding an HDD wouldn't make it 3x bigger (which would be the size of the 360). Smaller size = less cooling = less power. It's simple as that. The GCN engineers are gone.
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Wat.
 
Penguin said:
So are all the major sites, re-running the 01net rumors now that the 3DS thing has been announced?
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besides, weren't the 01net rumors only half right? they said redesign, didn't they? not peripheral
 
AzureJericho said:
Wat.
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No way the same people who made that made the 3DS or its boat. Iwata probably fired them since I imagine that such amazing engineers must have been expensive and Iwata is a... yen pincher? Whatever.

guek said:
hey burntpork, say something happy

just once


AH WANNA SEES IT
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something happy

3DS will blow up this holiday

ShockingAlberto said:
*thinks*

No they're not.

I can't find any evidence that Genyo Takeda or anyone else from the engineering team has left. Do you have links stating otherwise?
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Then they must have gotten pay cuts.
 
BurntPork said:
No way the same people who made that made the 3DS or its boat. Iwata probably fired them since I imagine that such amazing engineers must have been expensive and Iwata is a... yen pincher? Whatever.


something happy

3DS will blow up this holiday
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So...you're making shit up again?
 
ShockingAlberto said:
So...you're making shit up again?
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Well

I

Erm

Yes. But they probably did get paycuts... or something...

guek said:
I meant something you actually believe :-P
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I believe that. Amazing line-up in Japan, fair line-up and no competition everywhere else. If 3DS doesn't sell 5 million worldwide in Q4, then there's something horribly wrong with that can't be solved. Everything is in its favor.

ShockingAlberto said:
Stop posting lies as facts. I am not sure how anyone over the age of thirteen can keep thinking that's okay.
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Not lies. Bad assumptions.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
Stop posting lies as facts. I am not sure how anyone over the age of thirteen can keep thinking that's okay.
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He will keep doing so he has a fetish for seeing nintendo make underpowered products despite basic evidence about the gpu and cpu saying otherwise. Can't wait for the next 2 years it's already going to be Wii like in how it shut his kind up, well for a little bit they need another bandwagon of trolling to jump on.

Burnt has been doing this since E3 and sort of sickening it's still going on despite various people with more understanding of tech demonstrating otherwise.
 
Stop replying to him then. I did. It's the easiest way to have him stop posting his stupid bullshit. Just don't reply to him, ignore him.

He doesn't ever know what the fuck he's talking about. He constantly states his opinion or what he thinks is going to happen as fact. It's just not worth people's efforts to try and correct him, so don't fucking reply I say.
 
LCGeek said:
He will keep doing so he has a fetish for seeing nintendo make underpowered products despite basic evidence about the gpu and cpu saying otherwise. Can't wait for the next 2 years it's already going to be Wii like in how it shut his kind up, well for a little bit they need another bandwagon of trolling to jump on.

Burnt has been doing this since E3 and sort of sickening it's still going on despite various people with more understanding of tech demonstrating otherwise.
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I desperately want this thing to be powerful enough to get good third-party support next gen. However, this whole 3DS situation has killed my faith in the company. I loved Nintendo up until that stupid boat showed up. Now I'm just conflicted.

If I'm proven wrong, however, and they win me back, I'll probably get banned for being too excited. :p
 
BurntPork said:
I desperately want this thing to be powerful enough to get good third-party support next gen. However, this whole 3DS situation has killed my faith in the company. I loved Nintendo up until that stupid boat showed up. Now I'm just conflicted.
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Relax. It's just a clunky peripheral for a single game.

As far as I can recall, both of my gaming PCs (Core 2 w/GTX 250, i7 2600k w/GTX580) can play Witcher 2. So can the 360/PS3, and they are far less powerful than both.
 
BurntPork said:
I desperately want this thing to be powerful enough to get good third-party support next gen. However, this whole 3DS situation has killed my faith in the company. I loved Nintendo up until that stupid boat showed up. Now I'm just conflicted.

If I'm proven wrong, however, and they win me back, I'll probably get banned for being too excited. :p
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Then don't use or think about the "boat"
Problem solved.
 
BurntPork said:
I desperately want this thing to be powerful enough to get good third-party support next gen. However, this whole 3DS situation has killed my faith in the company. I loved Nintendo up until that stupid boat showed up. Now I'm just conflicted.

If I'm proven wrong, however, and they win me back, I'll probably get banned for being too excited. :p
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Or you'll probably be permabanned for doing hilarious shit like you do.
 
beelzebozo said:
that looks freaking incredible and cool.

i cannot wait to get my hands on that controller.
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Likewise, it looks awesome and it's going to be a hit so long as Nintendo take advantage of what it can offer, not just for gaming but other services/features too. It has so much potential it's not even funny.
 
ecosse_011172 said:
What makes you think the subsequent ones are more powerful?
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Because the first kits were underclocked.

http://kotaku.com/5812391/report-developers-working-with-underclocked-wii-u-hardware

And Alberto talked about some of the information he heard in the 01.net Wii U controller thread.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=30348027#post30348027

BurntPork said:
I'll believe it when I see it. And they never said that it's not the case, at least as far as I know.

And the size is not irrelevant because adding an HDD wouldn't make it 3x bigger (which would be the size of the 360). Smaller size = less cooling = less power. It's simple as that. The GCN engineers are gone.
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It's been talked about ad nauseum, so you "not seeing" it now is just you being asinine.

And the last part is even more asinine than the first.
 
AzaK said:
Likewise, it looks awesome and it's going to be a hit so long as Nintendo take advantage of what it can offer, not just for gaming but other services/features too. It has so much potential it's not even funny.
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it's a brilliant controller, and we're going to see lots of touch-screen controllers for tvs in the next bit.

the concerning thing is that nintendo had something brilliant with the wii remote pointer, and it was rarely really well used, they had a smart thing with wii connect 24, which wasn't well used... they've been ahead of themselves in some ways with their innovations of late, and haven't been able to make the sell as fully as they should have been able to if the software had been there to justify their hardware.
 
ecosse_011172 said:
What makes you think the subsequent ones are more powerful?
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Iirc, its been stated as such by a couple different devs. The earliest dev kits were only using of the shelf parts, and they were under clocked. No doubt 01net will post revised rumors at some point in the future after a few more iterations of dev kits have come and gone.
 
I hope that's the case but why does every one at Nintendo themselves play down horsepower expectations?
e.g.

Miyamoto said :

“When you look at what we’re trying to do this time, which is I think maybe to a certain degree somewhat reckless, because we’re trying to include this somewhat kind of tablet-like device – this controller with the screen,” said the producer.

“We’re trying to do that by finding the right balance between the CPU and the GPU, the graphics processor, and bringing all of that together with the ability to take advantage of the HD capabilities of the system, and wanting to do the most that we can on that front as well.

“We’re very sensitive, of course, to trying to do all of this at an appropriate price. So I don’t know that we would be able to sit here and say that it’s going to necessarily dramatically outperform the systems that are out now. It’s part of the balance that we strike in terms of trying to find entertainment that is new and unique.”
 
ecosse_011172 said:
I hope that's the case but why does every one at Nintendo themselves play down horsepower expectations?
e.g.

Miyamoto said :

“When you look at what we’re trying to do this time, which is I think maybe to a certain degree somewhat reckless, because we’re trying to include this somewhat kind of tablet-like device – this controller with the screen,” said the producer.

“We’re trying to do that by finding the right balance between the CPU and the GPU, the graphics processor, and bringing all of that together with the ability to take advantage of the HD capabilities of the system, and wanting to do the most that we can on that front as well.

“We’re very sensitive, of course, to trying to do all of this at an appropriate price. So I don’t know that we would be able to sit here and say that it’s going to necessarily dramatically outperform the systems that are out now. It’s part of the balance that we strike in terms of trying to find entertainment that is new and unique.”
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http://www.segatech.com/gamecube/overview/

First off, lets point out that Nintendo is being very conservative in it's 6 to 12 million polygons/seconds rating, as the developer Factor 5 who is developing Star Wars: Rogue Squadron is already doing 12 million polygons/second, and the developer claims they are only using 50 percent of Gamecube's power. Factor 5 indicated they could get 20 million polygons/second per second with all effects. Effects stands for texture layers, and not polygonal lighting.
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It's a Nintendo habit.
 
birdchili said:
the concerning thing is that nintendo had something brilliant with the wii remote pointer, and it was rarely really well used, they had a smart thing with wii connect 24, which wasn't well used...
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You're right, especially on the wiimote, and what bothers me the most is that Nintendo itself had troubles to find the best use of its own hardware. Many (most?) of the best ideas are coming from third-parties.
 
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