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[LeleSocho]

That's because Wii's control setup was so unique and strange. But everyone knows what kind of things can be done with touchscreens, they aren't mysteries at all.

If you ask me that's exactly the problem of the WiiU, no WOW factor so no word of mouth so no wii-like success

 

[BurntPork]

It's like you people do this to yourselves on purpose.

I correctly predicted that 3DS would underperform due to price and lineup. I also correctly predicted that western devs would love Vita. I'm on a roll.

 

[Gravijah]

I correctly predicted that 3DS would underperform due to price and lineup. I also correctly predicted that western devs would love Vita. I'm on a roll.

Going by your predictions, the 3DS should have been discontinued by now.

 

[sfried]

Not saying it's absolutely 100% required in order to be successful, but why risk it.

Well, for one, they're a dedicated entertainment company, so I doubt they would have all the resources and manpower to cover all basis of a "set-top-box" homeconsole, and two, taking risks has also been part of Nintendo's buisness. That's what makes the company them.

Actually, this is a hype issue. Graphics far above anything we've ever seen creates hype, and Wii U probably won't have that. Microsoft's tech demos, however, will. It'll get people talking, while Nintendo's controller has already failed to do that. Unless they have one of the best lineups in history, they need to get people talking about Wii U before they start talking about XB3.

And that's what I'm saying: GAF loves hype, and it won't matter whatever they do, any company who generates more buzz is the winner in GAF's eyes. Nintendo needs some stellar PR, and I'm talking Reggie hiring some professional to do it for them.

 

[KrawlMan]

We're not getting Zelda or 3D Mario for obvious reasons, Pikmin is a B-level franchise, and XB3 might end up releasing next year.


And that's the problem. It's boring. No one cares what it can do.

Except that touch screens haven't been applied to console gaming like the Wii U is presenting. Especially not in tandem with motion control, the rear camera and still having the full set of tried and true buttons/sticks. It's most definitely not boring. This new controller is the best thing Nintendo could possibly have done for console gaming. It opens up new ways to interact with games without removing anything that gamers have come to expect from their controller.

 

[AzaK]

And that's the problem. It's boring. No one cares what it can do.

Seriously? Boring? Being able to play console experiences even with the Telly off is boring? Being able to grab the controller at any moment and check scores, friend lets, play a game, buy from the store, video chat etc boring? Asynchronous play is boring? Have Huds/maps/second cameras/inventory on another screen is boring?

I absolutely care what it can do/offer. I actually think, if they get it right, that it will go gangbusters. I couldn't care less whether it's 1080p 60fps running DX11 equivalent hardware compared to what that controller can possibly do.

The thing is, we have to wait to see if nintendo can capitalise on it and really push the thing as opposed t a few bits and pieces.

 

[InsaneZero]

I correctly predicted that 3DS would underperform due to price and lineup. I also correctly predicted that western devs would love Vita. I'm on a roll.

You're possibly the last person that should be patting yourself in the back for reliable predictions.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I correctly predicted that 3DS would underperform due to price and lineup. I also correctly predicted that western devs would love Vita. I'm on a roll.

God bless the stalker wiki.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29678278&postcount=6

Four months isn't enough, sadly. This will probably go down as the Virtual Boy 2. In fact, the only reason it hasn't been killed yet is because the market is larger than it was when VB was introduced. 3DS will be discontinued very soon.
(2011-07-30 10:42 AM EDT)

I noticed you went back and edited this to backtrack.

It sure is easy to be on a roll when you remove all the bumps.

 

[Jocchan]

I correctly predicted that 3DS would underperform due to price and lineup. I also correctly predicted that western devs would love Vita. I'm on a roll.

You predicted a lot of stuff.

 

[LeleSocho]

also i remember when they've announced the wiimote i talked to all my friends of that strange tech they were using because that was infact "strange" now i have no reason to tell people of the controller-tablet because it isn't something to be amazed

 

[Shin Johnpv]

Yes. Yes he does

Which begs the question, when he's so insane, why do people keep replying to him. I'm gonna keep beating the dead horse on this until people stop it.

 

[Gravijah]

You predicted a lot of stuff.

...Was your tag changed? I swear it looks different.

 

[BurntPork]

Going by your predictions, the 3DS should have been discontinued by now.

I never predicted that. I did predict a pre-holiday price cut though..

 

[Jocchan]

...Was your tag changed? I swear it looks different.

Nope, sadly. Still 'O Memberos -ou with Greek letters.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I never predicted that. I did predict a pre-holiday price cut though..

So your assertion is that the above quote is false and you never posted that? Or that by "discontinued very soon," you specified in your head alone that it was a length of time greater than we've already passed?

Because then you're either lying and stupid or stupid and dishonest. Your choice.

 

[BurntPork]

So your assertion is that the above quote is false and you never posted that? Or that by "discontinued very soon," you specified in your head alone that it was a length of time greater than we've already passed?

Because then you're either lying and stupid or stupid and dishonest. Your choice.

Or I forgot about something that I changed my mind about shortly after. >_>

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Or I forgot about something that I changed my mind about shortly after. >_>

Not if they kill it in four months. That timeline is suicide. In four months, their stock will be non-existent, and the only way they'll regain the trust of investors is by going third-party. Giving a timeline like this was the dumbest thing Iwata could have done.

I am curious why your roll is so bumpy.

Edit:

But if it doesn't succeed this holiday and maintain success afterward, investors will force Nintendo to either leave the hardware business or deal with bankruptcy. The entire company is riding on this, and the situation is making itself worse because customers are losing faith in Nintendo as well. The fact of the matter is that Nintendo's risking a lot here, and it would really be in their best interest to throw in the towel right now. If Nintendo had instead announced that they were abandoning the 3DS and moving to iOS yesterday, their stock price would have skyrocketed. Now, it'll be below $10 by October.

 

[Gravijah]

I'm right, mannnnnnn. The government is watching us. They installed trackers into my brain.

Here, hold this jar of urine for me.

 

[BurntPork]

I am curious why your roll is so bumpy.

Edit:

To be fair, with how stupid investors are being right now they're stock really is going to be pretty low a could of weeks from now.

 

[RagnarokX]

I am curious why your roll is so bumpy.

Edit:

When I was in gradeschool we got this one bus driver to hit speed bumps going really fast and launching the bus in the air. BurntPork may be her.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

To be fair, with how stupid investors are being right now they're stock really is going to be pretty low a could of weeks from now.

Quoting this so I can bring it back up in a month when you edit it away.

 

[SolarPowered]

People were talking about the possibilities of the Wii's controls for months after the controller reveal. Wii U died in about a week.

Nintendo seemed to have a lot more confidence in their Wiimote. They just presented the tablet controller and tried their best to pretend that the main box didn't even exist. It's no surprise that fans and consumers would feel less excited after that weak showing from Nintendo.

You are definitely right about the NextBox reveal on the hype point of view though. Marketing is going to mean a lot more now that these machines will be on a more even playing field and Nintendo has had a really bad streak as of late in this particular field...

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

It's like you people do this to yourselves on purpose.

Not me bro, I'm expecting beyond the worst.

 

[Boney]

oh burntpork you crazy

worst part is that you think you's genious

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Not me bro, I'm expecting beyond the worst.

I actually meant engaging Burntpork in conversation that is not just mocking him.

 

[BurntPork]

Quoting this so I can bring it back up in a month when you edit it away.

I edited it because it was derailing the topic. >_>;

It won't be below $10, but the $15-17 range of possible. It's been plummeting for the past week and its not slowing down yet. It'll probably be below $19 by tomorrow.

 

[SolarPowered]

Just read Alberto's post above.

*puts on his seatbelt*

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I edited it because it was derailing the topic. >_>;

It won't be below $10, but the $15-17 range of possible. It's been plummeting for the past week and its not slowing down yet. It'll probably be below $19 by tomorrow.

Oh, that reminds me, I should go find your posts about how the analog add-on is absolutely going to be $30.

 

[Gravijah]

Oh, that reminds me, I should go find your posts about how the analog add-on is absolutely going to be $30.

Tell me if you find any posts of his that aren't insane predictions.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

God bless the stalker wiki.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=29678278&postcount=6



I noticed you went back and edited this to backtrack.

It sure is easy to be on a roll when you remove all the bumps.

Exactly. When it comes to the 3DS or any other system, he should be one of the last to be 'trusted'.

 

[BurntPork]

Oh, that reminds me, I should go find your posts about how the analog add-on is absolutely going to be $30.

Good luck, since I said $20-30, and the reason for those guesses were that I assumed it had a battery and wireless functions. If I had known those weren't present, I would have guessed $10-20.

 

[Penguin]

Exactly. When it comes to the 3DS or any other system, he should be one of the last to be 'trusted'.

I wouldn't trust his wild and irrational posting in general.

I swear the guy's mentality is all over the place it seems.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

I actually meant engaging Burntpork in conversation that is not just mocking him.

applies to that too

 

[Übermatik]

Got to hand it to you ShockingAlberto, you brought him down just a little bit.
Never make pre-cnceived predictions and ideas that you will turn on a couple of months down the line.
I think his idea was to appear constantly on the ball, but he's just made himself look like a blabbering, inconsistent troll instead.

 

[Shin Johnpv]

I actually meant engaging Burntpork in conversation that is not just mocking him.

I've been saying for weeks that I just don't get why people respond to him. He's insane, purely insane, no grasp on reality.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

I wouldn't trust his wild and irrational posting in general.

I swear the guy's mentality is all over the place it seems.

It'd be nice if he was trollin but he actually believes his madness which is the sad part.

 

[onQ123]

did Nintendo show anything about Wii U at the TGS?



for something that's suppose to be coming out early next year I think it's crazy of them not to show anything at TGS for the people in Japan.

 

[Übermatik]

It'd be nice if he was trollin but he actually believes his madness which is the sad part.

Even worse is the fact that he (usually) sticks by it and ignores the amount of evidence stacked against him.
If he had the courtesy to admit he was/is wrong, I'd have a little bit more respect for him. Got to rate his determination, though.
This guy's persistent, for sure.

 

[Gravijah]

did Nintendo show anything about Wii U at the TGS?



for something that's suppose to be coming out early next year I think it's crazy of them not to show anything at TGS for the people in Japan.

Nope, and I don't think it'll be coming out early next year. I don't personally expect to see much of again until E3 2012.

 

[schuelma]

did Nintendo show anything about Wii U at the TGS?



for something that's suppose to be coming out early next year I think it's crazy of them not to show anything at TGS for the people in Japan.

Nothing. I don't even think it was mentioned with games it was confirmed for like NG3.

 

[BurntPork]

did Nintendo show anything about Wii U at the TGS?



for something that's suppose to be coming out early next year I think it's crazy of them not to show anything at TGS for the people in Japan.

Wii U as we know it no longer exists. In its place is something new.


I hope.

 

[Pancakes R Us]

Seriously? Boring? Being able to play console experiences even with the Telly off is boring? Being able to grab the controller at any moment and check scores, friend lets, play a game, buy from the store, video chat etc boring? Asynchronous play is boring? Have Huds/maps/second cameras/inventory on another screen is boring?

I absolutely care what it can do/offer. I actually think, if they get it right, that it will go gangbusters. I couldn't care less whether it's 1080p 60fps running DX11 equivalent hardware compared to what that controller can possibly do.

The thing is, we have to wait to see if nintendo can capitalise on it and really push the thing as opposed t a few bits and pieces.

Video chat? Let's not get ahead of ourselves...this is Nintendo. We don't even have a unified account for purchases yet. Video chat will not even be a consideration until 2017 at the earliest. If ever. Got to protect the kiddies.

 

[Instro]

Quoting this so I can bring it back up in a month when you edit it away.

Are you implying that BurntPork isn't a stock analyst to go along with his always spot on forecasting in the video game industry?

 

[BurntPork]

Even worse is the fact that he (usually) sticks by it and ignores the amount of evidence stacked against him.
If he had the courtesy to admit he was/is wrong, I'd have a little bit more respect for him. Got to rate his determination, though.
This guy's persistent, for sure.

I've admitted to being wrong plenty of times. In fact, I always admit that I'm wrong when I'm proven wrong.

Are you implying that BurntPork isn't a stock analyst to go along with his always spot on forecasting in the video game industry?

I still get more right than Patcher.

 

[Übermatik]

Wii U as we know it no longer exists. In its place is something new.


I hope.

I hear Nintendo are scrapping it in place of a Super Burnt Pork 64 system. It has a 1TB hard-drive, 64MB of RAM total and and an Nvidia 9000m GPU. It also makes coffee.
Perfectly rational.

 

[Boney]

Tell me if you find any posts of his that aren't insane predictions.

he correctly predicted uh something

wii hd!

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

Actually, this is a hype issue. Graphics far above anything we've ever seen creates hype, and Wii U probably won't have that. Microsoft's tech demos, however, will. It'll get people talking, while Nintendo's controller has already failed to do that.

Am I the only person who sees the irony that the six-thousand one-hundred and eighty eighth post in this thread is about how no one is discussing the Wii U?

 

[Eteric Rice]

Video chat? Let's not get ahead of ourselves...this is Nintendo. We don't even have a unified account for purchases yet. Video chat will not even be a consideration until 2017 at the earliest. If ever. Got to protect the kiddies.

Pokemon Black/White has video chat.

 

[BurntPork]

I hear Nintendo are scrapping it in place of a Super Burnt Pork 64 system. It has a 1TB hard-drive, 64MB of RAM total and and an Nvidia 9000m GPU. It also makes coffee.
Perfectly rational.

And it outputs in either 64x64 color or 4K black and white.

Even I laughed at this one.

 

[Gravijah]

Pokemon Black/White has video chat.

That's Game Freak, it doesn't count~