It is on the console...
Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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It is on the console...
shadyspace
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You mean the tiny same-color etching tucked away in a corner?
MisterHero
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No it needs a giant Pikachu growing on the side
Wii Chu
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bring the motha-fucking-ruckus
We, it is a stupid name. The only reason it seems like more people have accepted it sooner than Wii is that Wii had an awesome codename, while Vita's was shitter than the real name.
TheExplodingHead
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I think the brand piggyback is pretty synonymous with how Nintendo does business these days.
When will Iwata's company learn that a letter or # coded console sells like hotcakes these days...and keeps selling.
I vote for the N8, catchy quick name to learn and remember. Drop the "Nintendo" and market it like the Ipod. Lots of forum/meme fuel too.
When will Iwata's company learn that a letter or # coded console sells like hotcakes these days...and keeps selling.
I vote for the N8, catchy quick name to learn and remember. Drop the "Nintendo" and market it like the Ipod. Lots of forum/meme fuel too.
bgassassin
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$329 minimum. $349 most likely. And possibly taking a loss at both prices.
Too much.
They're in direct competition with a hotter than ever $200 360 and $250 PS3 (which probably will be even cheaper by the time Wii U drops)... I can't see them going higher than $300. Unless they start pushing the fact that it's so next gen and super powerful and an all in one media center. Which we all know it isn't.
these days?
TheExplodingHead
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But the issue is Pikmin 3 has no strong sales appeal, especially now after all this time. It'd be a strong shoe-in for a IP to grab Nintendo faithful, but they need a Wii Sports or Wii Play-like title at launch possibly even a new Mario (NSMB Mii). Not only that but I say it would be wise to dig into the war chest and grab a exclusive/timed exclusive big FPS title with a strong MP component, and market it all day long. They need to have all bases covered, Pikmin 3 unfortunately only covers a small fraction.
I'm not sure if the Upad will be as interesting as they hope it'll be to the general public so it's more important than ever to get the software/services right.
-Pyromaniac-
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That's mostly why I think Nintendo is in a tough spot. If they launch at 350-400, it'll be a tough sell to the general public who would rather get a PS3/360 for much much cheaper, that is unless the marketing clearly explains why the console is worth that price, which doesn't sound like Nintendo marketing.
Tough spot to be in. Not impossible though. Could go either way.
The_Endgamer
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We're not sure of that yet. And we won't be until E3.
Though I do agree that Pikmin 3 won't be enough in the launch line-up.
TheExplodingHead
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Nintendo used to be a lot more clever about it. For whatever the reason is people like punchy digit names like that. I could mention the DS and people were pretty perceptive but now on a few occasions I'll hear "3DS?...get the fuck outta here", now it's Wii U. There's just something to be said for too much brand saturation in new products, especially on the word of mouth level. Sort of psychologically satisfying ring or lack thereof. Wii U has a lack thereof, from what I can tell.
Meh, or maybe I'm just too tired.
This is Nintendo we're talking about here. Wii didn't even play CDs.
I hope they prove me wrong, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm predicting $250-$300, a little bit stronger than PS3 (basically Wii all over again) at this point tbh.
It would be real nice if they released a $400 SKU with a harddrive and some other cool shit. Multiple SKUs, Nintendo. You know... you could give it a shot.
MisterHero
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Because people believe (rightfully or not?) that it's going to have to compete with convergence electronics, which their competitors are accelerating towards.
But being games-mostly (if not only) could leave room for it to be a bit cheaper too.
Heck it doesn't even have to be about functionality. Is it going to be a cool, mainstream device if it can't play movies?
Which is a good thing.
Personally, all I want from my video games consoles is to do just that, play video games.
I mean, we all had DVD Players, we all had VHS, I don't need my console to do the same, since I already have something that does that job.
TheExplodingHead
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To be quite honest I find that the possibility (and in turn potential) of a device like the Upad, it's main selling point, to not have full muti-media capability to be a huge blunder. It completely flies in the face of the inferred value of the product, from a general public standpoint.
From a public standpoint a "tablet controller" only conjures up thoughts of what people are already exposed to. Which is the Ipad/Iphone/assorted cells and Androids. Otherwise what would be the point of inspiring public interest and jumping at the idea right now if not for the tablet/touch "revolution"? To say to a paying customer (who also watched the reveal video of internet/video chat/etc) "this device is nothing like you initially expect and not capable" and that this device is ONLY suitable for games and inadequate or not able to be a multi-media device is bad for the customer and sad for the products' potential. I think it hurts the product overall in just about every way, especially for a tablet controller.
From a public standpoint a "tablet controller" only conjures up thoughts of what people are already exposed to. Which is the Ipad/Iphone/assorted cells and Androids. Otherwise what would be the point of inspiring public interest and jumping at the idea right now if not for the tablet/touch "revolution"? To say to a paying customer (who also watched the reveal video of internet/video chat/etc) "this device is nothing like you initially expect and not capable" and that this device is ONLY suitable for games and inadequate or not able to be a multi-media device is bad for the customer and sad for the products' potential. I think it hurts the product overall in just about every way, especially for a tablet controller.
50% of Netflix usage is from Wii's (or something like that).
Eitherway it's evident that there's no reason why it shouldn't "do more" especially when no extra hardware is involved.
All-in-one devices add more value to the product and more importantly it gathers mind share. When you're done playing games on the console you can relax and watch a movie on the console. After that you can browse the Internet on the console.
The console is ever present and it becomes a household staple. It's not that hard to realize. Plus a kid can justify a new console if a parent wants a new media device. Two birds with one stone, the kid can enjoy video games while the parents have a machine they can use to watch Netflix on their TV.
The console is ever present and it becomes a household staple. It's not that hard to realize. Plus a kid can justify a new console if a parent wants a new media device. Two birds with one stone, the kid can enjoy video games while the parents have a machine they can use to watch Netflix on their TV.
bgassassin
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We've gotten a decent amount of indication that it's not "a little bit" and far from Wii all over again. But I guess that's my subjective opinion.
And they could be watching a TV show or game and use the controller to look up something they want to watch without changing the channel.
So while doing some learnin' on die sizes I ended up coming across this old article from IGN. I think this might help give more support to show NEC made the GPUs for Gamecube and Wii.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2006/06/19/nec-and-mosys-announce-wii-hardware-partnerships
I also read elsewhere that Hollywood still wasn't completed by this time which would include E3 2006. And as mentioned above in the quoted area they hadn't given clock speeds at that time either.
I also wonder considering where they made Wii's GPU if the earthquake may have had some impact on on their release date for Wii U assuming they would have been made at Yamagata again.
Another interesting tidbit in the article.
I guess that 16MB either didn't make the cut or there was a mix up in info. I think I lean towards the former considering they called the 88MB 1T-SRAM.
They won't change the Wii U name, though I want them to. People thinking that there will be a new title by E3 are far too hopeful.
The concept is now too ingrained to change it. Besides, this is a continuation of the Wii brand, in both form and function.
At least this means we won't see another Nintendo console that uses the Wii name after the Wii U. I'm already anticipating what direction Nintendo will go in next.
After the Wu, it'll be a whole new name, a whole new design.
The concept is now too ingrained to change it. Besides, this is a continuation of the Wii brand, in both form and function.
At least this means we won't see another Nintendo console that uses the Wii name after the Wii U. I'm already anticipating what direction Nintendo will go in next.
After the Wu, it'll be a whole new name, a whole new design.
N8 is nice, though I was thinking Nokia.
Actually, before E3 I was liking STREAM.
I recall talk that the Wii was supposed to be an HD machine, not as powerful as the 360 and PS3, and they decided to gimp it last minute. Just like DVD playback was taken out.
360/PS3 games could all run at locked 720p/60fps if devs wanted them to, but then they wouldn't be able to use all them whiz bang effects.
what's the point of gaming without bloom
I agree with you, but Nintendo's past probably suggests otherwise. I'm just so, so, hoping that Nintendo have finally admitted to themselves that multi-media and non-game services are important to people, and that consoles are more than just game devices these days. Hopefully the Netflix stats help convince them.
If they can embrace this side of the business, they really do stand to do well. The upad has a massive amount of potential.
What I also hope is that Nintendo do push the tech to at least the point where there's enough difference grhically between it and the p60 that the average consumer would notice. Simply for the fact that p60 will be getting damned cheap by then.
The stigma of.. high sales?
No, silly! The stigma of casual, kiddy, waggle control games.
Which unfortunately was the majority of the Wii audience
The value of this device will be directly tied to Nintendo's ability to create appropriate and compelling content for it. There is no consolation prize for failure in that regard.
In other words: Nothing has changed and too many people overthink this stuff.
Amen! I personally know lots of gamers who pretty much declared, "I'm sitting out of gaming until games look good enough for my eyes."
Before this generation, they would cringe at what the original Xbox, Playstation, GameCube, etc would produce. But now that graphics are nice enough, they're all into it..
Getting back to the last rumor from Wiiudaily.
768 MB of DRAM embedded with the CPU, and shared between CPU and GPU
This blogger makes a good observation:
http://nerdorgeek.com/rumored-wii-spec-sheet-true-false/
He goes on to say:
768 MB of DRAM embedded with the CPU, and shared between CPU and GPU
This blogger makes a good observation:
http://nerdorgeek.com/rumored-wii-spec-sheet-true-false/
He goes on to say:
Since you are talking about the name again, I will again state my preference for the Yuu.
After Wii follows Yuu. The "u"s obviously symbolise the new tablet. It would follow the brand but be clearly different enough to avoid (3)DS confusion.
A number would be less than ideal. Wii 2 sounds awful.
After Wii follows Yuu. The "u"s obviously symbolise the new tablet. It would follow the brand but be clearly different enough to avoid (3)DS confusion.
A number would be less than ideal. Wii 2 sounds awful.
Wii was made up, and didn't sound like it came from a specific country. Yuu sounds way too asianish
Asian? Really? Would never have guessed that. I thought it sounds like "you", just like "wii" and "we". But this time the focus is on "you".
Unless you are thinking of Yu Suzuki etc. I guess you are right, it can be argued that it sounds Asian.
its not about sounding asian. Yuu- looks like a cheap chinese product name. Anyway there is a brand of bags called yuu bags
Damon Bennet
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and sounds like a toy
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