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[ShockingAlberto]

I am curious how well horror games will work on it.

The Pad screen could throw up jump scares, play creepy sounds, have a woman's face appear on TV and her hand appear pressed against the glass on the pad, making pounding sounds.

 

[luffeN]

I am curious how well horror games will work on it.

The Pad screen could throw up jump scares, play creepy sounds, have a woman's face appear on TV and her hand appear pressed against the glass on the pad, making pounding sounds.

Or the TV tells you to look at the controller, controller says look at the TV and BOOM horror face! And with the speakers you could include sounds played randomly, such as someone walking in a room, a door closing or the sound of a light turning off/on.

combine with rumble for massive damage

And there we have it! Where do we sign, Nintendo?

 

[guek]

Or the TV tells you to look at the controller, controller says look at the TV and BOOM horror face!

combine with rumble for massive damage

 

[Shiggy]

ead tokyo 1: the legend of zelda four swords anniversary edition (2011)

Wasn't it by Grezzo?

 

[AniHawk]

Wasn't it by Grezzo?

it was a team effort.

nintendo's partnered with a lot of outside companies over the last couple years to bring over 3ds stuff. i think it's a signal that their focus is on the wii u. only mario kart, super mario 3d land, and kid icarus were the games made totally within nintendo. and looking at upcoming games, new super mario bros. mii, fire emblem, paper mario, and animal crossing are the only ones being made by them for the system too.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Oh, oh

If you slowly raise the controller up to the screen like a virtual window and a ghost just comes flying at you, screaming through all the speakers.

 

[BY2K]

A teaser of a new stylized "dark yet whimsical and moody" Zelda, which is co-developed by Retro and From Software with supervision from EAD. Would be pretty huge.

Would you guys stop that? Why do you do this to yourselves?

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Would you guys stop that? Why do you do this to yourselves?

This actually sounds like a crazy clusterfuck that would result in a pretty bad game.

 

[darthdago]

Oh my god, what has happened?
I wasnt here for the weekend and now 50 pages (50 ppp) are added!!!
Something new has happened?
We now something more about the specs?

 

[BY2K]

This actually sounds like a crazy clusterfuck that would result in a pretty bad game.

It won't result in anything because it simply won't happen, you mean.

I mean, the idea of Retro making the next Zelda is already crazy enough, throw From Software into the fray and now it's just plain silly.

I wouldn't think it would give a bad game, though.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

It won't result in anything because it simply won't happen, you mean.

I mean, the idea of Retro making the next Zelda is already crazy enough, throw From Software into the fray and now it's just plain silly.

I wouldn't think it would give a bad game, though.

There's no real evidence From is good at working with other dev teams, much less American ones, or works best with supervision from anyone.

It's like saying "I love steak and I love ice cream sandwiches, so they should be fine mashed together in a stew!"

 

[guek]

heh, with ninja gaiden 3 selling poorly, I wonder if tecmo will suddenly use these last few months to make the wii u version as appealing as possible.

I'm still mildly interested in the game, but I swear if DLC weapons isn't included for free and they don't fix the awful screen tearing, I'm going nowhere near that thing.

 

[EricDiesel]

That's a recreation of the opening to A Link to the Past, where it's supposed to be dark and dreary as it rains with dark thunder clouds.

I'd expect it to look less artistically shitty, at least.

 

[AniHawk]

This actually sounds like a crazy clusterfuck that would result in a pretty bad game.

well at least from software has some experience making a zelda game.

edit: apparently it was silicon studio that made 3d dot game heroes.

 

[AniHawk]

Oh my god, what has happened?
I wasnt here for the weekend and now 50 pages (50 ppp) are added!!!
Something new has happened?
We now something more about the specs?

-vigil said darksiders 2 on wii u is on par with the 360
-vigil explained they did not create the mass relays
-insider said the next xbox will be crazy batshit insane with regards to specs next gen
-ea, activision, dice and epic are pushing the next xbox to be crazy batshit insane with regards to specs next gen

 

[Taker666]

The reason the Wii Remote speaker wasn't really used well is because it was a horrid little speaker, it didn't have the quality to do much. Hopefully the Wii U speakers are better.

People often blame the speaker but the real problem IMO was lack of onboard memory (to save higher quality sounds) and poor streaming. It could only cope with streaming low quality samples..when anything better was used it would often result in sound drops/pops. Interference from other sources was a problem as well.

Nintendo better get the streaming right this time as people won't be happy if the sound keeps dropping on the controller or the picture keeps freezing.

 

[blu]

People often blame the speaker but the real problem IMO was lack of onboard memory (to save higher quality sounds) and poor streaming. It could only cope with streaming low quality samples..when anything better was used it would often result in sound drops/pops. Interference from other sources was a problem as well.

Nintendo better get the streaming right this time as people won't be happy if the sound keeps dropping on the controller or the picture keeps freezing.

Nintendo not getting streaming right on the upad would be a sight to behold ; )

 

[frostbyte]

Nintendo not getting streaming right on the upad would be a sight to behold ; )

Is such a thing even possible?

 

[ColdBlooder]

It was working flawlessly last E3 already. So i have absolutely no worries about that happening

 

[Killer Yakuza B]

long Nintendo developers list

Nice. Shouldn't Jupiter be there too, though? The second Picross e is their most recent game (that I know of).

 

[Smiles and Cries]

heh, with ninja gaiden 3 selling poorly, I wonder if tecmo will suddenly use these last few months to make the wii u version as appealing as possible.

I'm still mildly interested in the game, but I swear if DLC weapons isn't included for free and they don't fix the awful screen tearing, I'm going nowhere near that thing.

I doubt they would even want to fix that game at this point even if the could, it sounds like a bad situation all around. Way to kill an IP

 

[frostbyte]

I doubt they would even want to fix that game at this point even if the could, it sounds like a bad situation all around. Way to kill an IP

Well, Itagaki is gone. Didn't exactly have high expectations for them.

Wonder if there's going to be a NG4.

 

[NeoRausch]

It was working flawlessly last E3 already. So i have absolutely no worries about that happening

Yeah but those pads were tethered. And that's not only to security concerns. When i'm no totally mistaken a spoksperson of nintendo even said it straight out that it didn't work 100% at that moment.
but seeing it beeing a main feature of the console, nintendo gonna put all their strength behind it to get it to work.

 

[AniHawk]

Nice. Shouldn't Jupiter be there too, though? The second Picross e is their most recent game (that I know of).

i just went off the list on wikipedia

Well, Itagaki is gone. Didn't exactly have high expectations for them.

Wonder if there's going to be a NG4.

i think the series needs 20 years to cool down a bit, and then an elderly itagaki can reboot it again for the xbox 5.

 

[blu]

Is such a thing even possible?

Everything is possible. Some things are just not that probable : )

 

[ColdBlooder]

Yeah but those pads were tethered. And that's not only to security concerns. When i'm no totally mistaken a spoksperson of nintendo even said it straight out that it didn't work 100% at that moment.
but seeing it beeing a main feature of the console, nintendo gonna put all their strength behind it to get it to work.

Then lets ask someone who knows...

wsippel where are you?

 

[D_prOdigy]

Nice. Shouldn't Jupiter be there too, though? The second Picross e is their most recent game (that I know of).

Jupiter better be working on TWEWY2. Nobody should trust Square-Enix or Nomura to be 'hands-on' with that game.

 

[frostbyte]

Jupiter better be working on TWEWY2. Nobody should trust Square-Enix or Nomura to be 'hands-on' with that game.

What's with the Nomura and S-E hate? They may have become incompetent this gen but their handheld output is still pretty good. You might as well say Bravely Default has no potential at all since it's from SE.

 

[spekkeh]

A HL3 exclusivity deal doesn't make any sense. It would soil their good standings with Sony, who let them deploy Steam on their network (and is thus a much more important partner than Nintendo), and Half-Life is a typical mainstream FPS with a minimal hud, where the extra screen will have no use whatsoever.

I also think that it's way too early to get anything Zelda related, bar a proof of concept fmv.

 

[Bagu]

A HL3 exclusivity deal doesn't make any sense. It would soil their good standings with Sony, who let them deploy Steam on their network (and is thus a much more important partner than Nintendo), and Half-Life is a typical mainstream FPS with a minimal hud, where the extra screen will have no use whatsoever.

I also think that it's way too early to get anything Zelda related, bar a proof of concept fmv.

If Nintendo is serious about gaining third party support, they'll allow Steamworks on the Wii U
Also, the screen can allow for hot keys for all the weapons, which is sweet

 

[AceBandage]

Nintendo isn't going to get any exclusives from huge franchises.
Stop asking for them.

Any exclusives will be new IPs and stuff from dead franchises, like Time Splitters or Eternal Darkness.

 

[TheExplodingHead]

Would you guys stop that? Why do you do this to yourselves?

That's why it was under the banner of "crazy announcements". Whether it would work or not is anyone's guess really, could be amazing, could also not be. With certain jobs regulated I tend to learn toward not a disaster. But that's just me.

A HL3 exclusivity deal doesn't make any sense. It would soil their good standings with Sony, who let them deploy Steam on their network (and is thus a much more important partner than Nintendo), and Half-Life is a typical mainstream FPS with a minimal hud, where the extra screen will have no use whatsoever.

I also think that it's way too early to get anything Zelda related, bar a proof of concept fmv.

Moneyhatting a timed exclusive with Steamworks support could be a great move for Nintendo, a strong relationship with Valve up front would be good for us and them. Not saying it'll ever happen, just some drippings from super optimistic crazy land...where I usually don't reside. :\

 

[fabricated backlash]

If Nintendo is serious about gaining third party support, they'll allow Steamworks on the Wii U
Also, the screen can allow for hot keys for all the weapons, which is sweet

The thing is, the screen could really make a lot of PC games viable on consoles. RTSs wouldn't have to be dumbed down to ridiculous levels to work, and you'd have a 100% installed base of compatible controllers to exploit. Dungeon crawlers with tons of spells and items bound to hotkeys on the screen.

I also think that online shooter could use it as a communication wheel if you decide not to use voice chat. Like the BF2 com Rose, the screen would be perfect for that. Hell even text chat should work great with it. Just display a keyboard and some hotkeys for phrases like pwned, lol, noob, and all the racial and homophobic slurs in your vocabulary.

XBL and PSN are horrible when trying to play team oriented games. And I don't blame COD for that, I blame them not offering comprehensive means of comunications in their games outside of voice chat. I know I'm not allways comfortable talking during a game, but at least give me an option to point out enemies, to give directions, to call for an assist etc.

 

[Sadist]

I am curious how well horror games will work on it.

The Pad screen could throw up jump scares, play creepy sounds, have a woman's face appear on TV and her hand appear pressed against the glass on the pad, making pounding sounds.

With a hypothtetical Eternal Darkness II it would be neat if the Tomb of ED would flip pages on it's own or better: one of the eyes of the gods would pop out and stare at you.

With the U-pad, there are so many awesome possibillity's for Sanity effects. "Your U-pad disconnected. You will will return to the home menu." *Zaps back to the game*

 

[Bagu]

The thing is, the screen could really make a lot of PC games viable on consoles. RTSs wouldn't have to be dumbed down to ridiculous levels to work, and you'd have a 100% installed base of compatible controllers to exploit. Dungeon crawlers with tons of spells and items bound to hotkeys on the screen.

I also think that online shooter could use it as a communication wheel if you decide not to use voice chat. Like the BF2 com Rose, the screen would be perfect for that. Hell even text chat should work great with it. Just display a keyboard and some hotkeys for phrases like pwned, lol, noob, and all the racial and homophobic slurs in your vocabulary.

XBL and PSN are horrible when trying to play team oriented games. And I don't blame COD for that, I blame them not offering comprehensive means of comunications in their games outside of voice chat. I know I'm not allways comfortable talking during a game, but at least give me an option to point out enemies, to give directions, to call for an assist etc.

You're right and I can only hope that developers take the time to do that. I'd kill for Nintendo to allow Steamworks and have Valve port over TF2 with cross platform play

 

[fabricated backlash]

You're right and I can only hope that developers take the time to do that. I'd kill for Nintendo to allow Steamworks and have Valve port over TF2 with cross platform play

I actually am pretty positive about 3rd party distribution channels on the WiiU. EA, Ubi and Nintendo themselves have hinted at a lot more versatility than the closed garden design of XBL and PSN (to a lesser degree)
free to play games, direct patching and shop access should be a given. People might not like the idea of EA or Ubi setting up shop inside the NIN, but that would also allow Valve to set up shop and it would force competition.
Personally, I would buy a new version of Portal2, L4D, TF2 and Orange Box for WiiU, if those versions would allow for Steamworks integration, direct patching and in some cases even cross plattform play (portal 2 coop)

 

[TheExplodingHead]

I actually am pretty positive about 3rd party distribution channels on the WiiU. EA, Ubi and Nintendo themselves have hinted at a lot more versatility than the closed garden design of XBL and PSN (to a lesser degree)
free to play games, direct patching and shop access should be a given. People might not like the idea of EA or Ubi setting up shop inside the NIN, but that would also allow Valve to set up shop and it would force competition.
Personally, I would buy a new version of Portal2, L4D, TF2 and Orange Box for WiiU, if those versions would allow for Steamworks integration, direct patching and in some cases even cross plattform play (portal 2 coop)

I'm wondering if Valve did set up shop, could there theoretically be games available on Steam that could be offered on the Wii U too (including Steam sales) and in some cases access to the same achievements (like loads of Indie titles)? With the dev's consent of course. Correct me if I'm wrong here because I know nothing about what would decide this.

 

[AceBandage]

I'm wondering if Valve did set up shop, could there theoretically be games available on Steam that could be offered on the Wii U too (including Steam sales) and in some cases access to the same achievement (like loads of Indie titles)? With the dev's consent of course. Correct me if I'm wrong here because I know nothing about what would decide this.

The games would have to be remade for the Wii U, and any achievements would be through the Steamworks channel, and not through the system itself.

 

[Bagu]

I actually am pretty positive about 3rd party distribution channels on the WiiU. EA, Ubi and Nintendo themselves have hinted at a lot more versatility than the closed garden design of XBL and PSN (to a lesser degree)
free to play games, direct patching and shop access should be a given. People might not like the idea of EA or Ubi setting up shop inside the NIN, but that would also allow Valve to set up shop and it would force competition.
Personally, I would buy a new version of Portal2, L4D, TF2 and Orange Box for WiiU, if those versions would allow for Steamworks integration, direct patching and in some cases even cross plattform play (portal 2 coop)

But that would mean Nintendo would have become more forward thinking than Microsoft or Sony in terms of Online serves, and I don't think the world is ready for that.

 

[TheExplodingHead]

The games would have to be remade for the Wii U, and any achievements would be through the Steamworks channel, and not through the system itself.

Alright then, I was just hoping Valve could roll out a "driver patch" which could theoretically make certain Steam games playable on Wii U without needing to be remade. But I guess that's not doable. I'd love to see Valve do a Wii U game at some point though, port or not I'd like to see how they utilize the Upad.

 

[fabricated backlash]

I'm wondering if Valve did set up shop, could there theoretically be games available on Steam that could be offered on the Wii U too (including Steam sales) and in some cases access to the same achievements (like loads of Indie titles)? With the dev's consent of course. Correct me if I'm wrong here because I know nothing about what would decide this.

So far it's all fair speculation. The only thing we know is that EA and Ubi are extremely excited about the online system. Now my worst nightmare if Nintendo would have EA as their main online partner, but I doubt that simply because Ubi wouldn't be happy about that either.

The way I see it is that publishers will likely get the chance to have their own curated shop on a unified NIN eshop. How far Nintendo is willing to let publishers take their control outside of that though, I'm not sure.

I think that these shops and games will require you to create additional publisher specific accounts, that can be coupled with your NIN profile, just like it allready works with XBL and PS3. But it's probably going to be much more direct and integrated. I'd expect publishers getting more control over patches as well.

But that would mean Nintendo would have become more forward thinking than Microsoft or Sony in terms of Online serves, and I don't think the world is ready for that.

Well given that both MS and Sony aren't exactly the be all end all entrepeneurs of online services it's definetly possible. Nintendo allready worked with an outside company for the eshop, and the criticism is taken into account as evidenced by the option to use credit cards for exact payments, and the upcoming option to shop from a browser instead of your 3DS.

We allready know that they plan for integrated video chat, so I'd expect voice and text messaging should be a given. Joining a friends game is allready possible on some games on the 3DS, so I expect this to be enhanced to true friendlist join functions as well as voip chat and chatrooms that can run outside of a gaming application.
If 3rd parties get to have their own storefronts, they'll also use their own achievements, metastatistics (cod elite), and promotions.

You could basically download apps like Elite to run directly and independently from the games. Kinda like Halo Waypoint but less clumsy.

 

[AceBandage]

Alright then, I was just hoping Valve could roll out a "driver patch" which could theoretically make certain Steam games playable on Wii U without needing to be remade. But I guess that's not doable. I'd love to see Valve do a Wii U game at some point though, port or not I'd like to see how they utilize the Upad.

Sadly, all games are not created equally, so a large patch would never work.

As for how Nintendo will handle the other company's services, they'll likely all be linked to your NN account, but Nintendo gets a smaller cut from Steam or Origin purchases.

 

[fabricated backlash]

Alright then, I was just hoping Valve could roll out a "driver patch" which could theoretically make certain Steam games playable on Wii U without needing to be remade. But I guess that's not doable. I'd love to see Valve do a Wii U game at some point though, port or not I'd like to see how they utilize the Upad.

I guess that would work for some games, but definetly not as a general measure. Games would have to be ported to run on WiiU on a game by game basis, but for most of the smaller games I think this would be doable, as long as they see some actual benefit to it.

Now shared achievements and chat would definetly be possible I'd say.

Sadly, all games are not created equally, so a large patch would never work.

As for how Nintendo will handle the other company's services, they'll likely all be linked to your NN account, but Nintendo gets a smaller cut from Steam or Origin purchases.

It's going to be interesting to see how Nintendo is building up their distribution model. I don't think they're going for a high cut on digital sales, and in turn leave moderation and curation of the individual storefronts up to the publishers themselves.

 

[DarkChild]

-vigil said darksiders 2 on wii u is on par with the 360
-vigil explained they did not create the mass relays
-insider said the next xbox will be crazy batshit insane with regards to specs next gen
-ea, activision, dice and epic are pushing the next xbox to be crazy batshit insane with regards to specs next gen

What insider?

 

[Sadist]

Oh I almost forgot that this week will be shitty: this Sunday it's April Fools day.

 

[Bagu]

Oh I almost forgot that this week will be shitty: Sunday it's April Fools day.

Or terrific! What better day to leak information than the day everyone would assume it's fake!



It won't happen.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

What insider?

Maybe not insider, but someone who should have access to actual insiders.

Our very own Berto. About as trustworthy as you get on this forum.

 

[DarkChild]

Maybe not insider, but someone who should have access to actual insiders.

Our very own Berto. About as trustworthy as you get on this forum.

So he said MS is shooting for the stars?

 

[Thunder Monkey]

So he said MS is shooting for the stars?

Yep.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36353477&postcount=9316

 

[bigtroyjon]

So he said MS is shooting for the stars?

summary from earlier

I trust your info. Hearing anything on Microsoft's end? I think that is the real key here- if they don't go batshit crazy I think the Wii U will be in that sweet spot of being very easy to port to.

I have heard they are going batshit crazy.

Wait what. You really must elaborate. (please?)

They asked publishers and developers what they need in a next-gen system

EA, Activision, DICE, and Epic all insisted on raising the ceiling by what we would traditionally consider a generational leap.

Microsoft listened because they were told this would increase game sales and hardware adoption.