Twenty7KVN
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New console gen build up is always fun
Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto
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pieatorium
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Yeah I'd agree with this, unless the Hardware manufacturer is footing the bill I wouldn't expect any exclusives from big third party publishers. Most likely scenario would be smaller ones who can't really afford (or don't see the value in doing) a big multiplat release themselves, but even then if they find some sucess they would probably try for other platforms later on like what CD project is doing with the Witcher 2.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
I was thinking about this the other night. Basically 2004 Zelda Trailer but since it's no where near ready, have the same set up with Link riding on a horse but instead of bokoblin running in a line, just make it a bunch of chickens. Link rides around a field in HD, on a horse, fighting a bunch of chickens with the same music. The levity shows us it will be some time but everyone loves Zelda. Dat Gif!!!
herzogzwei1989
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Slightly off-topic:
Does 3D stacking mean they stack CPU dies and GPU dies on top of each other, with greater bandwidth / less latency than otherwise? Is this possible for console use by late 2013?
Does 3D stacking mean they stack CPU dies and GPU dies on top of each other, with greater bandwidth / less latency than otherwise? Is this possible for console use by late 2013?
JohnTinker
Limbaugh Parrot
Why haven't I seen this before? I can't ever recall seeing it in the Wii U threads
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnVz7p765IM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnVz7p765IM
herzogzwei1989
Banned
That was really cool, never seen it before.
I agree with you. I was just looking at "smaller" projects like Killer freaks.
I think that, under a "gamer" point of view (not under a mass market point of view) the possible missing AAA future titles (starting maybe from 2014 when other engines will be standard) could be compensate by smaller but dedicated titles for the Wii U, if they will be able to sell decently in the first part of the lifetime of the console itself.
phosphor112
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Maybe you were hibernating. It was posted so many times.
Some of the funny Nintendo fanboys thought it was real time rendering.
Smiles and Cries
Member
no.. more like stacking chips cores http://www.extremetech.com/computing/95319-ibm-and-3m-to-stack-100-silicon-chips-together-using-glue
http://www.techpowerup.com/29229/IBM-Working-on-CPU-Stacking.html
I have not yet heard of stacking a CPU with a GPUr
herzogzwei1989
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I meant stacking CPU dies together and also stacking GPU dies together, not CPU and GPU dies together. Thanks for the links, seems I have a bit of catching uo to do.
Edit: I guess that tech will be ready for Nintendo's next-next generation console, the Wii 3, in 2017/18 or whatever.
Smiles and Cries
Member
that is promising tech but should still be on the expensive side I will be shocked with the first gaming hardware to use stacking tech but that is just a few years away
herzogzwei1989
Banned
Perhaps Sony will use it if they wait until 2014 (already mentioned in this thread if I'm not mistaken).
Yes! I've seen this before, and would like to see it somehow implemented into a Metroid game! Looks neat!
Better served in Pokemon Snap, no?
As an aside to this, I could see exclusives or timed exclusives for XBLA or PSN or WiiWare, especially asmsmaller or middle-sized developers decide to shift their focus to downloadable titles and want to create some buzz..
Yes! Or (I think I've mentioned) an underwater/SCUBA photography game.
Smiles and Cries
Member
I would not put it pass MS to go for it as well but its still look like dream tech right now to me.
I am more worried about MS/Sony copying that Pad controller than them leaping ahead using 3D stacked chips
once that controller is copied I don't see Nintendo having anything to hold these guys off since they are so reluctant to power-up their hardware
On the bright side, if they copy the pad and the U is within scaling range, at least developers are making games with this new interface in mind.
I'm not too scared right now. If MS goes modest, better for Nintendo. If MS goes for the moon, we get to watch the fireworks while Nintendo bunkers-in in their own corner of the market while things, umm.., "unfold;" we'd end-up maybe seeing a profitable-but-small-marketshare GameCube situation. If MS copies, tablet controller development accelerates.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
No, I have a 3DS player. It's called a 3DS. They need a 3rd party game player. I'm willing to break my $300 threshold. For one box, I'll pay. I ended up buying 2 consoles, multiple controllers, a bigger HD, a $100 wifi enabler. Just give me one box, $399, flash memory or HD or external HD support. And free online. Will this company ever lurn? I'm losing hope. 1 box future.
Yeah that's been done before. It's know as a System in Package or SiP. They use to compete with SoCs back in the day. The PSP used SiP's for it's processors.
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Smiles and Cries
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the Move controller did not help the Wii... Kinect did not help the Wii but then again both of them came very late to the party and Wii was already a monster that needed no help.
But copies of the U's pad controls making it easier to have all games on the same page is good for gamers but I don't see the core getting a WiiU over an Xbox3 if they both have the same pad screen features - this does not help Nintendo gain anything on the competition
Either that, or some sort of jungle exploration game.
I also wouldn't mind a virtual tourist-type game where a famous city's streets, architecture, statues, and other attractions are there for you to pictograph.. along with secrets hidden around the city. And a story mode, of course.
Truth be told, I don't see the core going to the U barring some earth-shattering development..
Don't make it sound like it's outdated - SiP is just a type of MCM, and MCM is still quite popular (and will become even more common with stacked memory).
Smiles and Cries
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HylianTom said:
if by core we mean NeoGAF type core yeah that is very true nothing is going to make any dudebro gamer see a Nintendo platform as viable for anything else but troll target
Barack Lesnar
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Has ShockingAlberto been right on stuff before? That would be great news about MS going all out, but is there any reason we should believe Alberto other than him being perceived as one of the saner Nintendo fans? It would be music to my ears if true.
DragonSworne
Banned
I just want one company to go all out with the Tech. It's not Nintendo this gen once again, hopefully it's MS.
It really doesn't make a lot of sense for Microsoft to go all-out, though. Sure, it was fine for them to take a loss during the lifespan of the original Xbox to set themselves up for profitability with the 360. They had the financial resources to survive those first few years, and they eventually entered the black, but they'd essentially be sending themselves right back into the red with a significant climb back to profitability if they release a cutting-edge console.
Yeah and the pad camera puts you directly into the scene, you can save the photos then on SD-card, go to a shop and print it as a photo...
Then show your friends where you were for holiday (e.g. London, Paris, Berlin, Las Vegas,...)
That could be some sort of fun.
And I wonder how many will notice that its not real photograph, its only game...
Father_Brain
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Development realities being what they are, you'd probably need Sony going that route as well to see more than a handful of third-party games that really take advantage of that tech.
radioheadrule83
Banned
The only way that would be bad is if they copied the tablet but made it much better, like higher res screen, capacitative input, or better yet - hybrid system like the Galaxy Note...
...but I think Nintendo will have held something back. They'll know all too well that the others are willing to follow their lead if it works out, so I'm betting they've held out on a key feature / secret that we don't know yet.
With the others launching a year or more after Wii-U, it's still possible they'll be ripped off if it works really well for Nintendo, but I'm sure they have plans for that eventuality too (see Motion+ and Sports Resort announcement around the PlayStation Move announcement etc).
Smiles and Cries
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make it better is the key I don't see them copying without making a leap ahead. SONY with OLED screen or something
Man, E3 can't get here soon enough. This back and forth about the tech is draining. I wish the conversation would move a little more to software. I was thinking this morning we could potentially see one of the most hype-inducing sizzle reel of games in the history of E3. Without going wildly into unfounded speculation, it would be fair to expect the following games shown at the Nintendo Conference:
Pikmin 3 (EAD)
New Super Mario Bros. Mii (EAD)
Mii Games Collection (EAD)
Retro Mystery Game (Retro)
Eternal Darkness 2 (Silicon Knights)
Monolift Crashed UFO RPG (Monolith Soft)
Killer Freaks (Ubisoft)
Ghost Reacon (Ubisoft)
Assassin's Creed 3 (Ubisoft)
Project CARS (Slightly Mad)
Aliens Colonial Marines (Gearbox)
Batman: Arkham City (Rocksteady)
WWE '13 (THQ)
Lego City Stories (T2)
Madden '13 w/ Unique Controller Features (EA)
Darksiders 2 (Vigil)
Dragon Quest X (SE)
... And that is just stuff that has been publicly hinted at or confirmed. Plus an unveil of Nintendo Network features, and maybe some crazy new Miyamoto character/Zelda/Smash/etc.
It's going to be crazy.
Pikmin 3 (EAD)
New Super Mario Bros. Mii (EAD)
Mii Games Collection (EAD)
Retro Mystery Game (Retro)
Eternal Darkness 2 (Silicon Knights)
Monolift Crashed UFO RPG (Monolith Soft)
Killer Freaks (Ubisoft)
Ghost Reacon (Ubisoft)
Assassin's Creed 3 (Ubisoft)
Project CARS (Slightly Mad)
Aliens Colonial Marines (Gearbox)
Batman: Arkham City (Rocksteady)
WWE '13 (THQ)
Lego City Stories (T2)
Madden '13 w/ Unique Controller Features (EA)
Darksiders 2 (Vigil)
Dragon Quest X (SE)
... And that is just stuff that has been publicly hinted at or confirmed. Plus an unveil of Nintendo Network features, and maybe some crazy new Miyamoto character/Zelda/Smash/etc.
It's going to be crazy.
Albino_Samurai
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herzogzwei1989
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Since nobody responded to this, I moved it up.
Slightly off-topic....
I love this piece by Miyamoto with regard to GameCube
http://www.usenetmessages.com/view.php?c=alternative&g=5818&id=158812&p=0
original source: http://web.archive.org/web/20060212112147/http://members.aol.com/mips36/shigeru_miyamoto.htm
Well, it lasted, didn't it? Also, does anyone remember that quote about multi-million dollar workstations?
And now, with Wii U, Miyamoto has access to a home console that can produce near-CG (old CG) like graphics, going by the Wii U Zelda demo!
Point is, I think Wii U's graphics are 'enough'.
I just hope the next Zelda somehow retains the 'look' of the demo.
Slightly off-topic....
I love this piece by Miyamoto with regard to GameCube
http://www.usenetmessages.com/view.php?c=alternative&g=5818&id=158812&p=0
original source: http://web.archive.org/web/20060212112147/http://members.aol.com/mips36/shigeru_miyamoto.htm
Well, it lasted, didn't it? Also, does anyone remember that quote about multi-million dollar workstations?
And now, with Wii U, Miyamoto has access to a home console that can produce near-CG (old CG) like graphics, going by the Wii U Zelda demo!
Point is, I think Wii U's graphics are 'enough'.
I just hope the next Zelda somehow retains the 'look' of the demo.
New twist ! ^^
So guys, how do you deal with the rumor of an Xbox Lite coming in 2013 ?
How could it impact Wii U ? If it's true it means for Nintendo no competition for next gen until 2014 ? And how would react Sony ? And what's the color of Napoleon white horse ?
So guys, how do you deal with the rumor of an Xbox Lite coming in 2013 ?
How could it impact Wii U ? If it's true it means for Nintendo no competition for next gen until 2014 ? And how would react Sony ? And what's the color of Napoleon white horse ?
DragonSworne
Banned
It surprises me that current day Nintendo is so reluctant to talk about technology and specs. Back the , they were a lot more open.
Nowadays their avoidance of tech talk makes it seem like they are clueless in the realm. Which is far from the truth. I just don't get it. They get a worse reputation by not talking about specs or at least technology.
Imagine if Sony were to think long and hard after looking at their bottom line, ultimately producing a quirky, affordable '2 PS3s duct-taped together' console intended to be a port twin with Wii U.
Can you say 'punk'd'?
bgassassin
Member
Hell yes I did! I loved what they did with Endless Ocean, and can hardly wait to see what they'd be able to do with the U's capabilities. Imagine getting lost underwater with an endless oxygen supply!
Many of their fans would throw temper tantrums at not being able to see each individual Sackboy fibre rendered in flawless lighting. It'd be hysterical on both ends.
-Pyromaniac-
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What do you want them to say?
"Yes, it's true, our machine is about 6 years behind the competition technologically."
They want people to look away from the tech specs and focus on the unique selling point, so that's what they talk about.
Really? Luckily for MS, they have all the money in the world so pushing them out isn't the option. This is generation where MS will prevail.
Yes, the company with the most money will always automatically prevail.
Just like with the Zune.
And Windows Phone.
pieatorium
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Why would they release a new $100 xbox lite when they are selling 14 million $300 old xbox heavy's a year.
If that rumour has any truth to it is more likely an apple TV competitor than something to compete with Nintendo and sony, with maybe XBL on it for DD games.
No, I'm saying because of the money they won't go out. I think they will prevail if they go good performance and price ratio, while packing Kinect and giving even better service than Live is now.
radioheadrule83
Banned
I could believe an ARM / Windows 8 based TV device being prepared that plays casual games actually. If it brought together services like Sky Go, Netflix, Lovefilm, iPlayer etc. and had Android/iPhone/WinPhone7 style apps and games but tailored to the TV, it could even be a hit. There was an earlier rumour about two SKUs by the way, maybe where there's smoke there's fire. Didn't the earlier rumour say the lower end box would use Kinect too?
jump_button
Banned
Xbox 360 No PS2 it will be dead the sec they're next one out
to be prepared when sales start dropping?