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[Bisnic]

Framerate was terrible in that street demo, but at least it seems to look nice.

 

[Zoramon089]

Potentially not true. Unlike other tech demos, Nintendo has never denied or confirmed if that is an actual Zelda in development. Aunoma wants a new Zelda out soon(er), and Miyamoto has already pointed out Retro being a good fit for the series.

Retro on the other hand started development on a "new" title during development of DKCR. What if they have been working on a Wii U Zelda this whole time, and they created that demo using assets from the project?

Aonuma just recently said they started working on the new Zelda already...if that was the demo he would have said so

http://wiiu.nintendolife.com/news/2012/01/nintendo_working_on_new_zelda_game

The long sailing time of creating Skyward Sword, a game to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the Zelda series, has just come to an end. The voices of those who’ve played it from around the world reach us. We hear their admiration comments, and their criticism too. All those voices become energy for the next voyage. Well, to tell the truth, we’ve already set sail in a new voyage.

 

[TheCongressman1]

Retro on the other hand started development on a "new" title during development of DKCR. What if they have been working on a Wii U Zelda this whole time, and they created that demo using assets from the project?

Again, those are higher quality TP models. If Retro is making a Zelda game, it will most likely not look like anything Zelda team has done so far. They aren't just going to reuse TP as a template.

 

[Anzan]

Its probably the cheapest LCD screen Nintendo can get away with. So yeah.

Ars Technica says the screen looks significantly better than the iPad, so... yeah, it's outstanding if true. You realize many of the best LCDs don't photograph well at all? No, wait, you probably don't.

"The new controller is an impressive thing to hold in your hands. It feels solid and comfortable, and nothing about it marks it as a weak link. The screen itself is bright and beautiful, much clearer than the screen on an iPad, and even small details of the games are able to be seen clearly. The controller's speakers also do a good job of delivering information to the player via audio clues."

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/...the-wii-u-and-learns-nothing-new-about-it.ars

 

[BlueMagic]

Framerate was terrible in that street demo, but at least it seems to look nice.

It was video footage, not rendered in real time. Also probably the reason for the low framerate.

 

[AlexSmash]

Framerate was terrible in that street demo, but at least it seems to look nice.

seriously. how high is it? 18fps or what... smh.

But yeah it looks pretty good.

 

[guek]

Well the streetview appears to be a really complicated google-view from all angles. I wonder how much the framerate had to do with the system itself and how much it had to do with how the footage was compiled and put together. In any case, I don't think it's supposed to show you anything about the console's horsepower, it just features one of the controller's abilities.

 

[TheCongressman1]

In any case, I don't think it's supposed to show you anything about the console's horsepower, it just features one of the controller's abilities.

This. We can see that the console is perfectly capable of delivering a solid framerate in the HD demos. I don't think it will be an issue.

 

[HYDE]

Retro's Zelda....as a FPA.

Fixed. Like Mirror's Edge and Metroid Prime.

 

[Skiesofwonder]

Aonuma just recently said they started working on the new Zelda already...if that was the demo he would have said so

http://wiiu.nintendolife.com/news/2012/01/nintendo_working_on_new_zelda_game

No he wouldn't of. Nintendo won't tell us anything concrete about the new Zelda until it's actually unveiled.

Again, those are higher quality TP models. If Retro is making a Zelda game, it will most likely not look like anything Zelda team has done so far. They aren't just going to reuse TP as a template.

Well yes, the project (demo) after all was led by Twilight Princess director Satoru Takizawa. But that still doesn't change the possibility that Retro could of been involved with the creation of it.

 

[TheCongressman1]

Well yes, the project (demo) after all was lead by Twilight Princess director Satoru Takizawa. But that still doesn't change the possibility that Retro could of been involved with the creation of it.

Ah, right. That certainly is possible. I can't remember if they said whether or not they had help with that, or what. Anyone remember?

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Aonuma just recently said they started working on the new Zelda already...if that was the demo he would have said so

http://wiiu.nintendolife.com/news/2012/01/nintendo_working_on_new_zelda_game

Not really news considering they start working on a new Zelda or Mario right after each installment in each series is released. There is no break period.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Not really news considering they start working on a new Zelda or Mario right after each installment in each series is released. There is no break period.

Healthy!

 

[royalan]

Well the streetview appears to be a really complicated google-view from all angles. I wonder how much the framerate had to do with the system itself and how much it had to do with how the footage was compiled and put together. In any case, I don't think it's supposed to show you anything about the console's horsepower, it just features one of the controller's abilities.

Yeah, framerate aside that was really impressive. I'm still trying to figure out how they rendered it without any hint of the car the camera had to have been mounted to.

 

[guek]

Yeah, framerate aside that was really impressive. I'm still trying to figure out how they rendered it without any hint of the car the camera had to have been mounted to.

I think it was a small miniature plane with multiple cameras (my guess)

 

[UncleSporky]

Yeah, framerate aside that was really impressive. I'm still trying to figure out how they rendered it without any hint of the car the camera had to have been mounted to.

Spoilers, it was actually real time and it's GTA5.

You can tell because of the shitty frame rate.

 

[royalan]

I think it was a small miniature plane with multiple cameras (my guess)

Wii U comes with stealth plane peripheral confirmed?

 

[TheExodu5]

I still say that Zelda demo has the best lighting I've seen of any game to date. Beautiful demonstration of Global Illumination.

 

[Skiesofwonder]

Spoilers, it was actually real time and it's GTA5.

You can tell because of the shitty frame rate.

Ok, I chuckled.

 

[royalan]

I still say that Zelda demo has the best lighting I've seen of any game to date. Beautiful demonstration of Global Illumination.

I'm surprised at how effortless it seemed to be rendered. Like a light switch, and not a drop in framerate. I always imagined lighting being much more of a pain than that.

 

[Souldriver]

Oh gosh that Zelda demo.

 

[Uno Venova]

I hope Zelda actually uses an art style similar.

 

[Bullza2o]

I hope Zelda actually uses an art style similar.

Then everyone would bash it and start demanding SS art-style.

 

[Rengoku]

Video hands-on at The Verge.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/11/2700613/nintendo-wii-u-video-walkthrough

Damn you for posting that video..... now I sort of want....

 

[Uno Venova]

Then everyone would bash it and start demanding SS art-style.

Is this a Zelda cycle post that generalizes forum opinions.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Mega64: The Wii U Conspiracy

 

[The Boat]

Potentially not true. Unlike other tech demos, Nintendo has never denied or confirmed if that is an actual Zelda in development. Aunoma wants a new Zelda out soon(er), and Miyamoto has already pointed out Retro being a good fit for the series.

Retro on the other hand started development on a "new" title during development of DKCR. What if they have been working on a Wii U Zelda this whole time, and they created that demo using assets from the project?

Eiji Aonuma, producer of the series, says we shouldn’t read too much into the switched-up graphic style.

“You probably remember that when we introduced the GameCube, we showed a somewhat realistic Zelda demo,” he said. “And what we actually created was the cel-shaded Wind Waker. So when we show a graphic demo, people think, ‘Oh, this is what the next Zelda will look like,’ but that’s not necessarily the case,” he said.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/07/wii-u-mario-zelda/all/1

Well yes, the project (demo) after all was led by Twilight Princess director Satoru Takizawa. But that still doesn't change the possibility that Retro could of been involved with the creation of it.

The Zelda team, all hard at work on Skyward Sword, didn’t make the Wii U tech demo, Aonuma says, although he noted that Satoru Takizawa, art director of Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, headed up its production.

Art director, not director. You're looking too much into it, it's a tech demo. Is it possible that the game will look like that? Well yeah, it's not a stretch, Retro could even be involved with it but that was definitely just a tech demo and anyone who thinks Retro will be making Zelda is delusional.

 

[A.KU.MU]

The more I watch the Zelda demo.... it screams Nintendo-like with a western influence. maturer tone, Spider crawling past the window, spider crashing through the ceiling, dramatic camera angles, etc. I'm starting to really believe Retro is involved.

Just a tech demo.

 

[butter_stick]

The TP style is so cool that if Nintendo don't make me a HD game closely resembling it I'm going to be so mad.

Note: my disappointment is practically guaranteed, I know.

 

[royalan]

The only thing that makes me believe that this demo could have anything to do with the next Zelda title is the fact that...well, HD assets aren't the quickest things to just whip up.

Yeah, the gamecube Zelda demo had a realistic art style, but looking back there really wasn't that much to it. Very little texture work, basic lighting, and the scene itself was very short. The most impressive thing were the character models, and even those didn't hold up against the best games the gamecube ended up getting. That demo was something that was very obviously thrown together, even then.

In comparison, this Wii U Zelda demo is incredibly intricate. Assets far too detailed to be upscaled TP leftovers, lighting more sophisticated than anything we've seen on PS360, impressive models, and a scene that even has a decent level of interactivity.

I don't believe that Nintendo would create all of that for just a throwaway demo.

Spoiler

At least, I don't want to believe that

 

[udivision]

^It's 1 room, the spider is from TP, so is Link, and Nintendo has had plenty of time to do this.

3D Zelda's don't get to re-use artstyles anymore, it seems.

 

[EloquentM]

The only thing that makes me believe that this demo could have anything to do with the next Zelda title is the fact that...well, HD assets aren't the quickest things to just whip up.

Yeah, the gamecube Zelda demo had a realistic art style, but looking back there really wasn't that much to it. Very little texture work, basic lighting, and the scene itself was very short. The most impressive thing were the character models, and even those didn't hold up against the best games the gamecube ended up getting. That demo was something that was very obviously thrown together, even then.

In comparison, this Wii U Zelda demo is incredibly intricate. Assets far too detailed to be upscaled TP leftovers, lighting more sophisticated than anything we've seen on PS360, impressive models, and a scene that even has a decent level of interactivity.

I don't believe that Nintendo would create all of that for just a throwaway demo.

Spoiler

At least, I don't want to believe that

apparently its

It's using TP assests, not just artstyle.

 

[butter_stick]

Well seeing as its literally the only thing they had at E3 for their newly revealed console that didn't have a fugly Mii artstyle, it's possible they may have thought "shit we better make this decent".

 

[Utako]

Video hands-on at The Verge.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/11/2700613/nintendo-wii-u-video-walkthrough

So jelly of Ross there.

I need to try this out.

 

[StreetsAhead]

Well seeing as its literally the only thing they had at E3 for their newly revealed console that didn't have a fugly Mii artstyle, it's possible they may have thought "shit we better make this decent".

Coughbirddemocough

 

[royalan]

^It's 1 room, the spider is from TP, so is Link, and Nintendo has had plenty of time to do this.

3D Zelda's don't get to re-use artstyles anymore, it seems.

apparently its

Did they actually confirm it's up-resed TP assets? Because even in HD nothing in TP is as detailed as what we see in the demo. And that's definitely not the same Link model. This one's much more boyish looking.

But you guys are probably right...

 

[UncleSporky]

And that's definitely not the same Link model. This one's much more boyish looking.

It sure looks like it's the same too me. Maybe better lighting/shaders and higher res textures have made it harder to notice.

 

[MisterHero]

I was thinking that the Link in the demo is TP Link's body but with SS Link's head

the hair geometry gives it away

it might be a brand new model entirely though

 

[Esiquio]

So jelly of Ross there.

I need to try this out.

Thanks for the link to that video. I have never seen that Street View demo, it looked really impressive.

 

[royalan]

I was thinking that the Link in the demo is TP Link's body but with SS Link's head

the hair geometry gives it away

it might be a brand new model entirely though

And Tingle's makeup...

 

[butter_stick]

Coughbirddemocough

Not a vidya game.

 

[TheCongressman1]

Not a vidya game.

Neither was Zelda U.

 

[guek]

Not a vidya game.

That's what you think. Birdz: 4 Seasons Wii-U, day 1

 

[Septimius]

The more I watch the Zelda demo.... it screams Nintendo-like with a western influence. maturer tone, Spider crawling past the window, spider crashing through the ceiling, dramatic camera angles, etc. I'm starting to really believe Retro is involved.

Do you remember that "mature" trailer we saw before Wind Waker? Do you really want to go down this road again?

 

[AceBandage]

The Zelda TECH DEMO was just there to show off graphics.
Nothing more, nothing less.
There is no hidden meaning behind it.
There is no big secret Retro game that will sprout from it.
It was just a talking point.
Just like all the other Zelda tech demos.

 

[BY2K]

The Zelda TECH DEMO was just there to show off graphics.
Nothing more, nothing less.
There is no hidden meaning behind it.
There is no big secret Retro game that will sprout from it.
It was just a talking point.
Just like all the other Zelda tech demos.

If anything, it just means we'll get something even better!

 

[butter_stick]

If anything, it just means we'll get something even better!

Or worse.

Give me teh mature. Nintendo, don't make me come down there.

 

[royalan]

The Zelda TECH DEMO was just there to show off graphics.
Nothing more, nothing less.
There is no hidden meaning behind it.
There is no big secret Retro game that will sprout from it.
It was just a talking point.
Just like all the other Zelda tech demos.

You, sir, are the Dream Killer. ;_;

 

[udivision]

Oh great. I just realized the Zelda NPC's are going to reach a new level of vomit inducing get-as-far-away-from-anime ugliness in the next gen.

 

[AceBandage]

It'll probably be an opposite of SS, so more realistic is certainly a possibility.
But mature?
How would we even qualify that?