plagiarize
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i guess you meant 'why not price it at $250'.thefro said:
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Wii3: Apocalypse Redux
- Thread starter Amir0x
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Dr. Kitty Muffins
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cleveridea said:
Wii will be rich!
I agree with a lot of your criticism, Amirox. I feel great about Wii Sports being packed in, but the extra controller needed is missing. I can't agree with you on MP3 though, if you insist on that being some sort of concious decision by Nintendo. They got some attention on E3 for not polishing controls enough, things being too similar to the GC version. They said there and then they'd work on erasing complaints, but obviously they want it perfect - and it's taking more time than a launch-release could afford.
Now let's analyse the factors in play. We've got Metroid Prime, a fulfilling perfection on their vision at the time. Metroid Prime 2 was "Metroid Prime: more levels", and didn't feel necessary. Now I think none of us want "just" another MP2. We want a game which takes all the features of the Prime series to the next level. From the short clips we've seen today it's already clear that they're expanding their scope, showing off stylistic choices and settings not seen in the series before. In addition a more sensitive ,responsive control method has been revealed. They're improving the MP3 we know in every regard, and if there's one thing I lack it's impatience for 'more of dat' same Prime formula". Let's get another game that makes the same impact that MP1 did. For nintendo a delay equals more polish, expanded magnitude.
Now let's analyse the factors in play. We've got Metroid Prime, a fulfilling perfection on their vision at the time. Metroid Prime 2 was "Metroid Prime: more levels", and didn't feel necessary. Now I think none of us want "just" another MP2. We want a game which takes all the features of the Prime series to the next level. From the short clips we've seen today it's already clear that they're expanding their scope, showing off stylistic choices and settings not seen in the series before. In addition a more sensitive ,responsive control method has been revealed. They're improving the MP3 we know in every regard, and if there's one thing I lack it's impatience for 'more of dat' same Prime formula". Let's get another game that makes the same impact that MP1 did. For nintendo a delay equals more polish, expanded magnitude.
Beer Monkey
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Thing is, with the huge margins on accessories (not to mention VC titles), plus game royalties, they could easily sell this system for less and still make good money on every single customer...and snag more marketshare.
I already have friends who are doing the math and deciding to put the money towards a future PS3. Wii may be 'new gen' but their pricing is too close to Next Gen.
plagiarize
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there you go.
Ford Prefect
GAAAAAAAAY
The topic was so worked over (with no reason to suspect that it wouldn't be included) last night I couldn't resist :lolFlo_Evans said:
But yes, gamespot live feed showed split-screen multiplayer.
cleveridea said:
Ya don't ****ing say, Nintendo.
"Yay, I hope Nintendo makes WII STOCKS so I can masturbate myself furiously to the wild world of your value going up to simulate what it must be like to actually be one of the game-haters who celebrate Brain Training software doing good in Japan."
Smiles and Cries
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does IGN have the full US wiicon vid up yet?
Not sure if this was mentioned or not (thread is too long to read) but this might be a good option for a second wii remote
The event also confirmed that Nintendo would put out a separate collection of mini-games, titled Hajimete no Wii ("Starting Out With Wii"). The game compilation includes a packed-in Wii Remote (for two-player action) and features nine different minigames, such as the Duck Hunt-like demo and ping pong games shown previously. Hajimete no Wii will ship at the same time as the console on December 2 and sell for 4,800 yen.
Hopefully it comes to the states too.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732678p1.html
The event also confirmed that Nintendo would put out a separate collection of mini-games, titled Hajimete no Wii ("Starting Out With Wii"). The game compilation includes a packed-in Wii Remote (for two-player action) and features nine different minigames, such as the Duck Hunt-like demo and ping pong games shown previously. Hajimete no Wii will ship at the same time as the console on December 2 and sell for 4,800 yen.
Hopefully it comes to the states too.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732678p1.html
Tarjeta Prepagada
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So thats why Nintendo sucked all the hype and excitment out of the Wii launch
To make an extra buck or two...
To make an extra buck or two...
OmegaRed said:where is that from? can I dl the entire video?
http://media.wii.ign.com/media/748/748547/vids_1.html
Samus enters Space. really impressive game :O GO MP3!
plagiarize
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just think Amir0x... it'll be spring again soon.Amir0x said:
obviously if people think it's good that a game is selling to a new audience they hate games?
i guess the pent up crazy over the cube version of zelda is starting to seep out. stand back everyone... he's going to blow!
Mr. TV Goggles
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Bah.
Apparently I completely misunderstood Nintendo. I thought they were going to sell the Wii at a slight loss. But they didn't say that, they said the Wii would be profitable in the first year and that there definately wouldn't be heavy losses.
Goddamnit. I still want the system at launch.
Nintendo has me craving for their Wii.
Apparently I completely misunderstood Nintendo. I thought they were going to sell the Wii at a slight loss. But they didn't say that, they said the Wii would be profitable in the first year and that there definately wouldn't be heavy losses.
Goddamnit. I still want the system at launch.
Nintendo has me craving for their Wii.
Too close? You are insane. The system is leagues cheaper than either of the competitors and the games are cheaper, too. If you and your friends are judging amount of money invested versus what you get spec-wise then you're buying things for the wrong reasons. As a new system with tons of upcoming games that look great, it's easily worth $250. It really just doesn't make sense to whine about the hardware when they've obviously put a lot of money and effort into the controller's tech -- they aren't RIPPING YOU OFF. They're just making sure they make a profit.beermonkey@tehbias said:
It's a damn business, man.
It's been an amazing two days, in the sense that everything that came from Nintendo was either one of the best or worst things they've ever done.
Best:
-Wii interface owns
-AVATAR CREATION owns--nay, pwns--nay, qwns; the day I get a Wii I might make 20+ of those things just because I can.
-Photo storage and interface owns
-Virtual Console game availability
-Virtual Console downloads permanent
-10 games per month
-Point system
-Beautiful box art
-Classic controller price
-Size of Hyrule Field is incredible
-Metroid Prime 3 controls
Worst:
-$250
-$250 without two controllers
-$250 in the US, where they might lose, as opposed to $212 in Japan, where they've got it in the bag. I know, Wii Sports, but still.
-Delayed Metroid Prime 3
-Delayed Gamecube Zelda
-November 19th--as in, after PS3.
-$60?! For a controller?!
-$250. This is supposed to be a system for casuals, yet even I won't bite at that price, and I've bought every Nintendo console--home or portable--on launch day since the SNES when I was 7.
-Don't know if this is just the resolution the photos are taken at, but I see more jagged edges in Mario Galaxy than in the bulk of Gamecube games, which drives me insane; I may not sell myself for graphics, but I certainly do for anti-aliasing. I can honestly say the Mario Galaxy screenshots do pretty much nothing for me because the lack of AA bugs me that much. On the other hand, maybe it'll pull a "Mario Sunshine" where it looks bad in screenshots but in motion it's crazy fantastic. For stills, though, Zelda looks better.
On the bright side, because Wii is $250, it makes it that much easier to hold off for a price drop, and by the time that price drop comes around, all the games I'm vaguely interested in but wouldn't pay $50 for--Super Swing Golf Pangya, Excite Truck, DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 2--will have gone down as well.
Still, this is honestly ridiculous.
Only thing that could suck me in at this point is if 1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl hits earlier than Christmas 2007, or 2) by, say, summer 2007, they start offering Wii without Wii Sports for $200.
Best:
-Wii interface owns
-AVATAR CREATION owns--nay, pwns--nay, qwns; the day I get a Wii I might make 20+ of those things just because I can.
-Photo storage and interface owns
-Virtual Console game availability
-Virtual Console downloads permanent
-10 games per month
-Point system
-Beautiful box art
-Classic controller price
-Size of Hyrule Field is incredible
-Metroid Prime 3 controls
Worst:
-$250
-$250 without two controllers
-$250 in the US, where they might lose, as opposed to $212 in Japan, where they've got it in the bag. I know, Wii Sports, but still.
-Delayed Metroid Prime 3
-Delayed Gamecube Zelda
-November 19th--as in, after PS3.
-$60?! For a controller?!
-$250. This is supposed to be a system for casuals, yet even I won't bite at that price, and I've bought every Nintendo console--home or portable--on launch day since the SNES when I was 7.
-Don't know if this is just the resolution the photos are taken at, but I see more jagged edges in Mario Galaxy than in the bulk of Gamecube games, which drives me insane; I may not sell myself for graphics, but I certainly do for anti-aliasing.
I can honestly say the Mario Galaxy screenshots do pretty much nothing for me because the lack of AA bugs me that much. On the other hand, maybe it'll pull a "Mario Sunshine" where it looks bad in screenshots but in motion it's crazy fantastic. For stills, though, Zelda looks better.On the bright side, because Wii is $250, it makes it that much easier to hold off for a price drop, and by the time that price drop comes around, all the games I'm vaguely interested in but wouldn't pay $50 for--Super Swing Golf Pangya, Excite Truck, DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 2--will have gone down as well.
Still, this is honestly ridiculous.
Not $599 ridiculous, at least.
SolidSnakex
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Slurpy said:
There's a quote frmo Iwata earlier in this thread for the Japanese conference where he says that the success of the DS doesn't assure success for the Wii. So I really doubt they're overconfident about this.
Magicpaint
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Link316 said:in other words their competitors look out for gamers first instead of profits
Yeah, right. :lol
Amir0x said:
Get this - some of us are capable of enjoying games like Brain Training and so-called 'hardcore' games. And people wouldn't suddenly buy more copies of games like Ultimate Ghouls and Ghosts if Brain Training and Nintendogs didn't sell well. :lol
I can't believe Americans are complaining over a console that costs £170 with a game anyway. It must suck to be so poor.
Operations
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What is surprising is Nintendo's decision to launch with a bundle, not the price itself. The majority expected $199. Add Wii Sports's price ($20-30 tops) and you get $230. So the ripoff is about $20/30 per unit.Tarjeta Prepagada said:
Nameless said:
Nobody thinks that and his comment "We are a company that competes only in the interactive entertainment space so we have to make a profit on every thing we do" is a valid one. Sony and Microsoft can afford losses, because they can make up for it in other areas.
Version 3.0
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Nameless said:
All 3 companies are "shafting" us. But Nintendo has the smallest shaft (hence, Wii).
I think the most upsetting thing about any of the news released is the launch date. People were willing to spend $230 for the system a couple of weeks ago. $20 extra is not a big deal. Launching so late is what's dissapointing to me. I want to waggle my wand in Oct, not Nov.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Yeah **** it definitely waiting through 2007.
$250 whatever whatever I could have seriously done without having Wiisports forced on me. I'll just wait for a new bundle or something. I can deal with the extra controllers because I'm a big ebay nut and can usually find better deals on accessories through that. However being forced to buy a game I don't want is ridiculous.(Okay I guess I'd play it for the boxing and tennis but everything else haha no)
I already trashed the Gamecube after getting sick of waiting for Twilight Princess. Funny thing is all this hopping and skipping through hoops for Nintendo has actually made me less of a Zelda fan. I'm starting to wonder if it was worth all the trouble now.
Eh well I'll have more fun with DoA X2 anyway.
$250 whatever whatever I could have seriously done without having Wiisports forced on me. I'll just wait for a new bundle or something. I can deal with the extra controllers because I'm a big ebay nut and can usually find better deals on accessories through that. However being forced to buy a game I don't want is ridiculous.(Okay I guess I'd play it for the boxing and tennis but everything else haha no)
I already trashed the Gamecube after getting sick of waiting for Twilight Princess. Funny thing is all this hopping and skipping through hoops for Nintendo has actually made me less of a Zelda fan. I'm starting to wonder if it was worth all the trouble now.
Eh well I'll have more fun with DoA X2 anyway.
BrodiemanTTR
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Tarjeta Prepagada said:
Hyped and excited over here, pretty sure I'm not alone.
Frankfurter
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I'll be very, very pissed if they announced a 2007 date for Europe tomorrow after they have assured the 2006 date for about a dozen times :/
splattergnome
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MrPing1000
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Don't u ****ing delay until march in Europe Nintendo Don't u ****ing do it.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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Frankfurter said:
Yeah, but I don't see the reason; Nintendo hasn't any sort of production's problem. They will bring on the market 4 millions of Wiis and Japan and USA without Europe is not enough to sell all these consoels before end of 2006.
Then this is the perfect time because the PS3 will be in PAL regions only in March 2007.
Well, I don't see a single reason to delay the Wii in Europe. Do you see it ?
Actually, I will admit that I forgot I didn't buy a DS at launch--waited until June 2005 and the Meteos/Kirby combo plus the Mario 64 bundle with the reduced price, then it was all uphill with Advance Wars shortly after, and the crazy 2005 holidays.donny2112 said:Get out of my head!Fixed slightly for my take.
For Nintendo's sake, I hope Wii pulls off a similar pattern with some great stuff showing up in summer 2007, and a better system bundle and price.
Mr. TV Goggles
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Yes, but how big is it?ant1532 said:This is the packaging for the system
