Radical_3d
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I'm not buying French Persona but I didn't want to pass on the occasion to say something from Todd Howard ain't shit.
Will Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 be harmed by Oblivion’s shadow drop?
Thaimasker
Member
Oblivion is a lot of people's favorite game and this remake was a dream for them. So I can understand that.
I mean.. The Mario bro movie made a billion dollars. People went to the theaters to see that instead of movies that are far better. It's not all about quality.. Corporations cash in on familiarity.
Marketing can also play a massive role. These companies aren't spending hundreds of millions to market for nothing. Thankfully word of mouth can be huge nowadays too.
I'm confident this game will succeed regardless
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Unknown Soldier
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Both are on Gamepass anyways so no one will buy either title on Xbox
But for the other platforms, I don't honestly believe the market for a remaster of a 20 years old game intersects very heavily with the market for a new AA European-made JRPG
But I'm not a Venn Diagram expert so what do I know
But for the other platforms, I don't honestly believe the market for a remaster of a 20 years old game intersects very heavily with the market for a new AA European-made JRPG
But I'm not a Venn Diagram expert so what do I know
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Kagoshima_Luke
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It will be harmed somewhat. I'm sure it'll still do fine.
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Easily but the game should still do fine if it's a great game. I'm not into it so not sure. But Oblivion Remaster is still the best game of this year so far and the best and most fun RPG since 2015.
semiconscious
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it'll probably be a combo of oblivion & all the quick time button pushing...
Itchy Tickles
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Just a head up to anyone who bought on CDKeys, they had my code ready to use on Steam as pre-load of about 40gb.
Sintoid
Member
There's a lot more old games fans in the world than people wanting to support new IPs
Both games are in Gamepass and Steam. I'm curious to see the Steam players counter this evening but I'm quite sure that Expedition 33 numbers will be lower than Oblivion's
Don't complain if there's no new IPs if you don't support them
And by the way, downloading Expedition 33 now
Both games are in Gamepass and Steam. I'm curious to see the Steam players counter this evening but I'm quite sure that Expedition 33 numbers will be lower than Oblivion's
Don't complain if there's no new IPs if you don't support them
And by the way, downloading Expedition 33 now
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I don't think it will be anywhere close. But I don't think Exp33 could have got close to the numbers Oblivion is doing even if Oblivion hadn't come along.
Astray
Member
I think the answer to that is yes.
Normies are all talking about Oblivion, and only hardcore JRPG types are talking about Expedition 33. It's the same price with nostalgia for a past hit title.
Even Gamepass traffic is gonna be compromised to some extent by this probably.
However I think MS had no real options there. Theyre releasing DOOM next month so they can't delay Oblivion there, and they have The Outer Worlds 2 coming out later this year so that's out of the question.
November would ordinarily be an excellent month to release it in, but I have a feeling they're trying to avoid the GTA6 train.
Normies are all talking about Oblivion, and only hardcore JRPG types are talking about Expedition 33. It's the same price with nostalgia for a past hit title.
Even Gamepass traffic is gonna be compromised to some extent by this probably.
However I think MS had no real options there. Theyre releasing DOOM next month so they can't delay Oblivion there, and they have The Outer Worlds 2 coming out later this year so that's out of the question.
November would ordinarily be an excellent month to release it in, but I have a feeling they're trying to avoid the GTA6 train.
Theyre trying to juice the numbers as much as possible for the next quarter.
wizaga
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Preordered this game for the ps5 after IGN,s preview last month. Will start playing tonight and after all the really positive reviews i seem to have made the right choice. Oblivion is cool but it is still just the same old game with new makeup. And to be honest for me atleast nothing really beats a really good turn based RPG.
DenchDeckard
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Topher
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Not everyone wants to rent games. I don't default to game pass every time even if available.
TheDarkPhantom
Member
Yes, obviously, I posted about it a couple of times before the reviews of Claire Obscure dropped and despite the critical acclaim it doesn't change the fact M$ fucked them big time with Oblivion getting massive mindshare, it is what it is. My physical copy of Expedition 33 just arrived, can't wait to dig in.
saintjules
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Two different games which likely means two different sets of audiences.
Don't care for Oblivion, so it's 33 for me.
Don't care for Oblivion, so it's 33 for me.
GulfCoastZilla
Member
They are both on gamepass so 
But like JRPG style games are just not for me anymore. Where WRPG's are. Plus like, to me it's a new Elder Scrolls game because I never played oblivion.
But like JRPG style games are just not for me anymore. Where WRPG's are. Plus like, to me it's a new Elder Scrolls game because I never played oblivion.
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SlimySnake
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Phil once again showing he lacks even the most basic understanding of video games. Women bitch about men lacking emotional intelligence but this is exactly what this is. Just completely oblivious to your responsibilities as a publisher to a dev who gave you a gamepass game.
My feeds are full of oblivion on a day a literal goty contender was reviewed. The damage is done.
My feeds are full of oblivion on a day a literal goty contender was reviewed. The damage is done.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Getting both, but I'll focus on the FRPG since I've already played Oblivion after all. Plus it seems like the remaster could benefit of a few patches, so no rush.
DenchDeckard
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Thats fair, but plenty of people rent films and games. I see it as a positive that you can subscribe to a service and have access to both of these games the same week.
vaibhavpisal
Member
This is doing pretty good on steam.
36k concurrent players.
Its a big hit.
36k concurrent players.
Its a big hit.
Topher
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Game Pass is only a small part of the equation. These games are on PS and Steam where GP doesn't apply. So obviously if we are going to talk about how Oblivion affects Expedition 33, it isn't about Game Pass.
From a Game Pass perspective, absolutely.
They're both installed and I'll probably dabble with both, but I don't have time to get stuck into both - unfortunately for E33, Oblivion was here first, and I'm surprised by how much I'm into it. I thought I'd get the nostalgia hit for a couple or hours and be done, but I'm still playing.
Of course, neither are getting a direct sale from me, so it's a competition for time.
They're both installed and I'll probably dabble with both, but I don't have time to get stuck into both - unfortunately for E33, Oblivion was here first, and I'm surprised by how much I'm into it. I thought I'd get the nostalgia hit for a couple or hours and be done, but I'm still playing.
Of course, neither are getting a direct sale from me, so it's a competition for time.
Cyberpunkd
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Yes, and it's a damn shame because it's THE SAME EXACT GAME. LIke, they even proved yesterday THIS IS OBLIVION BASIC GAME RUNNING with a new UE5 coat of paint. This is why it's also not a remake, they just applied a layer on top of 20-year old game.
Cyberpunkd
Member
You drunk?
It's a remake of an ES game, at a time when the last game released more than 10 years ago and ESVI is MIA.
yurinka
Member
Sure Jan, MS decides to shadowdrop the remake of the Skyrim 'prequel' the same day of the release of very likely the best 3rd party game they are releasing in GP this year destroying their sales, visibility and probably the relationship with this new promising team that isn't any threat to them because of a random coincidence, or because of potatoes wanted to destroy that team.
Sure, had nothing to do with their direct competitor having multiple releases and announcements that same week, including the first public release of the (formerly the most important MS studio) Bungie as Sony subsidiary. Sure xDD
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Klayzer
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Yeah. It was just a coincidence, wink-wink
Hideous Snake
Gold Member
Of course but not me. Playing Clair right now
Already played Oblivion 20 years ago so it can wait
Already played Oblivion 20 years ago so it can wait
Zacfoldor
Member
Let's be honest here, Oblivion is a low effort reskin of a game that a lot of people didn't love. It's selling for nostalgia and also to the crowd that was too young or just missed out on it the first time. Most players will get a few hours in and fall off.
Clair Obscure is a new goty candidate that is turn based, single player, not woke, and has a very high metacritic.
Of course Clair Obscure will be fucked by dumping their buggy reskin(worse than a user mod) on top of it.
The real story here is how inept, obtuse, ignorant, stupid, dumb, low effort, low energy and woke Microsoft management is.
I'm sorry, I actually plan on playing Oblivion too, but let us not pretend it isn't just a reskin. WTF were they thinking cannibalizing themselves like square enix? MS needs to reexamine themselves. We give the other companies shit for being too expensive but at least we don't have to see factions within the companies vying for attention. Ugh. Vying factions gives them too much credit. I bet they didn't even realize these dates were so close. Management is asleep at the wheel at Microsoft. Let me repeat that. Management is asleep at the wheel at Microsoft.
Clair Obscure is a new goty candidate that is turn based, single player, not woke, and has a very high metacritic.
Of course Clair Obscure will be fucked by dumping their buggy reskin(worse than a user mod) on top of it.
The real story here is how inept, obtuse, ignorant, stupid, dumb, low effort, low energy and woke Microsoft management is.
I'm sorry, I actually plan on playing Oblivion too, but let us not pretend it isn't just a reskin. WTF were they thinking cannibalizing themselves like square enix? MS needs to reexamine themselves. We give the other companies shit for being too expensive but at least we don't have to see factions within the companies vying for attention. Ugh. Vying factions gives them too much credit. I bet they didn't even realize these dates were so close. Management is asleep at the wheel at Microsoft. Let me repeat that. Management is asleep at the wheel at Microsoft.
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StereoVsn
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I am going to eventually get both and will get Clair Obscure first… just not at launch as the backlog is too massive for the moment and I have bunch of other stuff to play.
Oblivion looks rough performance wise and still has the same damn bugs as the OG release so modding is going to be crucial. I am going to give it a few months to percolate. Not like there is any hurry or story spoilers here, lol.
Plus I want to see if they bothered to fix level scaling, stupid leveling system and god damn repetitive Oblivion Gates and their spawning rates. I still haven't seen a straightforward answer on this one.
Oblivion looks rough performance wise and still has the same damn bugs as the OG release so modding is going to be crucial. I am going to give it a few months to percolate. Not like there is any hurry or story spoilers here, lol.
Plus I want to see if they bothered to fix level scaling, stupid leveling system and god damn repetitive Oblivion Gates and their spawning rates. I still haven't seen a straightforward answer on this one.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
It's not going to get to 1/3 of Oblivion. And that's unfortunate.
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vaibhavpisal
Member
High review scores do get people to play games.
This makes me wary of scores.
"If you are good at something, never do it for free".
But either ways, will play Exp 33 and form my own opinion.
I think that 50k concurrent players on Steam is a solid number. Usually CCU means 10% of all sales on Steam. Gamepass money are secured, and my rise depending on how many users download the game. It will probably do okay on PS as well. My completely baseless assumption is that the game will sell over 1 million copies. The only question is what the studio expects in terms of sales.
vaibhavpisal
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Fbh
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I'm definitely picking up Expedition 33.
I don't really care much for Obvlivion, though I'll probably buy it in a year or so when it's sub $30.
But yes I think it will sadly affect the sales of Clair Obscur.
As much as gamers like complaining about remaster, remakes and the lack of new IP, many of them love nothing more than existing IP and nostalgic remakes/remasters.
I don't really care much for Obvlivion, though I'll probably buy it in a year or so when it's sub $30.
But yes I think it will sadly affect the sales of Clair Obscur.
As much as gamers like complaining about remaster, remakes and the lack of new IP, many of them love nothing more than existing IP and nostalgic remakes/remasters.
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