brotkasten
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Asus really got some mad scientists. I feel sorry for their marketing department, trying to turn that thing into sales.
More like "Instant sharing with back to back neck pain", amirite?
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Asus really got some mad scientists. I feel sorry for their marketing department, trying to turn that thing into sales.
More like "Instant sharing with back to back neck pain", amirite?
Wiktor
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Huh? They all seem to be reasonably priced
Wiktor
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THe only way to compete with iPad is to have awfully shitty specs, kind of like iPad has.
All those x86 hybrids are aimied at notebooks users far more than at iPad ones.
Isnt ipad eating notebook market up though?
brotkasten
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I, uh, thought we already had this?
And another, more pro tablet.
Asus unveils Transformer Book Windows 8 convertible notebook
Asus has revealed a number of new Windows 8 hardware offerings today, but it also has a convertible notebook planned for later this year. The Transformer Book is powered by Intel's 3rd generation Core i7, i5, and i3 processors alongside 4GB of RAM, USB 3.0, and Nvidia graphics. Asus is shipping the Transformer Book with a full HD IPS display in 11.6, 13, and 14-inch options.
A detachable full-size keyboard is available on the Transformer Book, allowing it to switch into a Windows 8 tablet for mobility.
And another, more pro tablet.
Asus announces Tablet 810: 11.6-inch Windows 8 tablet with Intel Atom processor
If you're not interested in a transforming Asus Windows RT tablet then the company is also revealing its Tablet 810 Windows 8 device today. The Tablet 810 will ship with an 11.6-inch Super IPS+ panel, 8-megapixel rear camera, and Intel Atom processor for the all important traditional desktop apps compatibility in Windows 8.
Asus has also packed in a Wacom digitizer with stylus support, alongside an extremely thin form factor: just 8.7mm thick (thinner than Apple's latest iPad). The Tablet 810 will also ship with a 2-in-1 mobile dock with a hidden hinge design.
The thickness is something you can't really avoid if you want the keyboard to be detachable.
We should be separating this products into two categories: those with pen support and those without. The latter pile we will burn.
Huh?
Of all the tablet/laptop hybrids shown by Asus the Transformer Book is the one with the best specs. The 810 has a way worse processor and a somewhat weaker screen but it has digitizer pen support and a better camera.
But in terms of processor, screen rez, RAM, etc the Transformer Book wins.
But in terms of processor, screen rez, RAM, etc the Transformer Book wins.
brotkasten
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Cheebo, can you not read? The slide says "ultra-performance with next gen Intel Atom processor."
Ultra.
Performance.
Beat that, Ivy Bridge.
Plus, it got a Wacom stylus.
Uh Ivy Bridge is the superior processor to Atom. By a significant margin.
Not to mention the tranformer book has full hd ips vs super ips + which beats super ips.
brotkasten
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That's not what the slide says!
Huh? It says ultra performance with the next gen atom processor. It's talking up the new atom processor which is better than last gens. Intel already revealed the new atom processor like they did ivy bridge, atom is their more low-end budget line compared to ivy bridge. Atom
Has continued to improve but it's the lower end line compared to their flagship ivy bridge.
Ivy-bridge is Ultra Mega Super Performance. Duh.
Horrible shine, horrible shape, horrible size and horrible colours.
I've seen an Asus android transformer in person and it looks much better than the pictures. Shape and Size though? You're having a laugh surely.
Woooaaah, did anyone else feel that?
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Any 16:10 tablets?
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Wiktor
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It isn't actually. Sales are still growing regularly. And laptops overall sales still manage to make iPad look almost like a niche device. At most iPad is slowing laptops growth, but not killing it completely. I think most manufactuers are more concerned about makign their existing notebook users keep buying their products that going after iPad users.
That would be awful for tablets >.<
brotkasten
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I think the convertible featured in the Windows 8 RP ad was 16:10.
I agree, 4:3 is best
I gave the new Release Preview version a twirl in my VMWare unit. Here are some quick impressions.
- It looks good and it runs fast. Even on inferior hardware settings the OS is rather snappy. However, when things chug, I do not get any indication - no loading icons/cursors - and that blows.
- Cannot remove the Hotmail/Live email account from Mail after you use it once to login. I made a separate @live.com account just for Win8 and there is no way I am using it for email. Gmail is perfect for my email needs. However, I can only add it as a secondary account into the Metro Mail application, it is a bitch to configure, the folders are messed up and it is difficult to access.
- Haven't tried the Xbox application yet, but I have another @hotmail.com account for that. Am I fucked with that like with email?
- Weird aliasing issues with large text on my screen.
- Weird highlights on buttons and links.
- Desktop mode is a joke. I mean, isn't it? I am very much a keyboard person and at home I use a dual monitor setup. My primary Windows work is done using the keyboard (Start > Run > shortcut name > Enter) is still the fastest way to get around this thing. I have an entire array of two or three letter shortcuts that I use to launch stuff that I use daily. Now that the Start menu is gone, where should I get access to them? I am not going to clutter my desktop with them.
- The Metro applications are mostly a joke too. On a regular desktop MS would be smart to either disable Metro altogether or at least scale all the GUI elements to suite the resolution gap. I do not need a 400px URL bar in Metro IE. I do not need 30% of my screen taken up with folder names in Metro Mail. et cetera.
yep
brotkasten
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MSI Slider S20
Ivy-Bridge CPU
4 GByte RAM
64 GByte SSD
Two USB 3.0
Gigabit-Ethernet
Mini-HDMI
2-in-1 card reader
802.11 b/g/n WiFi
Bluetooth 4.0
No price or date.
It's hilarious that they used Windows 7 + that popular Metro Rainmeter skin instead of the W8 startscreen. Really disingenuous.
Ivy-Bridge CPU
4 GByte RAM
64 GByte SSD
Two USB 3.0
Gigabit-Ethernet
Mini-HDMI
2-in-1 card reader
802.11 b/g/n WiFi
Bluetooth 4.0
No price or date.
It's hilarious that they used Windows 7 + that popular Metro Rainmeter skin instead of the W8 startscreen. Really disingenuous.
TIf you are talking about the picture in the above post that specs are for the Transformer Book. The 810 with stylus support has more Netbook level specs (2 GB vs 4 GB RAM, Atom processor vs. ivy bridge, IPS+ vs Full HD IPS..etc)
I don't get why people here are excited about the 810. Wacom Digitizer is nice but the Atom processor is a joke for any serious use.
Oh ok thanks.
brotkasten
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It should run nicely with those new ultra-performance Atom CPUs.
I can always run an older version. As long as I get all my drawing and painting tools it makes no difference to me.
I totally don't understand the point of this one.
I love it. Only problem is my main draw for using Windows are the better games options. I don't think I'll be able to play any recent games on this thing. I really want something with a discreet GPU that also has this kind of flexibility
I'm not looking to play BF3, just stuff like Guild Wars 2, Diablo 3, the like
Really? It's just a convenient way to access the tablet form factor on an ultra book.
I would be totally fine with a slight increase in thickness if it meant handling games. As I said before, Alienware needs to do a tablet.
The Verge commentors are saying the new Atom CPU isn't good enough for a lot of heavy photoshop work.
I guess so. Seems like it would easier and cheaper to me to just find a way to flip the tablet and still be able to attach it to the dock instead of having two screens.
Well the point of Wacom tablets is to have pressure sensitivity built into the screen when using a stylus. It's like having a cintiq (but probably not as accurate) on the go, so it is tremendously appealing to artists. Being able to run full windows art software on it also has great potential.
He was joking, but they are still atom chips, I dont know what people were expecting, these are the lowest power/usage, they are like the ARM chips.
I know he is but I am sure he is confusing some people. A lot don't get that atom is basically a netbook level cpu.
Yeah, the 810 is basically a netbook with detachable screen. The Transformer Book is the ultrabook level machine with a detachable screen.
Wiktor
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I think it's a waste. I mean..there should be a way to design such device so you can use both screens next to eachother, making it one big superscreen.
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Well, how good are the atom chips?
Some of my work in Photoshop/illustrator/Indesign can go towards 500mb-1gb. Plus alot of CPU intensive work too.
Some of my work in Photoshop/illustrator/Indesign can go towards 500mb-1gb. Plus alot of CPU intensive work too.
If you can't get it done on a netbook you won't be able to get it done on the 810. It's Asus's netbook transformer basically.
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