Windows 8 Release Preview

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brotkasten said:
I'm still surprised how man over on the gaming side don't know about the Xbox Live integration and Xbox Companion app in Windows 8. Especially in the SmartGlass thread.
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Smart Glass doesn't seem to be something like AirPlay or DLNA but rather an extension of the companion app. The e3 demo had the guy showing off XBL stuff on the console, but otherwise nothing like third party extensibility on mobile devices?
 
Windows 8's built-in antivirus will put third-party products first
Windows 8 will include its own built-in antivirus software. But if a user installs antivirus software from McAfee, Symantec, AVG, or any other vendor, Windows 8's own protection will turn itself off and defer entirely to the third-party product. Microsoft's software will spring to life only if there's no third-party malware protection at all or if the third-party software is installed but has no up-to-date signatures.

Representatives from McAfee spoke to Computerworld to explain the behavior. While this might seem like a concession from Microsoft to the third-party antivirus vendors, McAfee says it isn't. Rather, it's designed to keep Windows OEMs happy.

OEMs have long bundled third-party antivirus software with their systems, because they receive kickbacks from the antivirus vendors whenever users buy subscriptions to the software. Windows 8's built-in antivirus software threatened this revenue stream; if Windows offers to perform antivirus functionality all by itself, there's no reason to buy a subscription.

Windows 8 will warn users when their antivirus software is out-of-date and provide them information on how to renew their subscription. After 15 days of warnings, it will also offer to install Microsoft's own Windows Defender. This combines the anti-spyware properties of Windows Defender and the antivirus capabilities of Microsoft Security Essentials.

Our advice would be to blow away the bloatware and skip the trials. Head straight for Microsoft's software. It's not perfect—no antivirus software is—but it keeps a low profile and will protect against all the mainstream malware threats.
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glaurung said:
  • Cannot remove the Hotmail/Live email account from Mail after you use it once to login. I made a separate @live.com account just for Win8 and there is no way I am using it for email. Gmail is perfect for my email needs.
  • Desktop mode is a joke. I mean, isn't it? I am very much a keyboard person and at home I use a dual monitor setup. My primary Windows work is done using the keyboard (Start > Run > shortcut name > Enter) is still the fastest way to get around this thing. I have an entire array of two or three letter shortcuts that I use to launch stuff that I use daily. Now that the Start menu is gone, where should I get access to them? I am not going to clutter my desktop with them.
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You can log into windows without a live id. But i don't know how to remove your live account from email if you are logged in with it. And search works the same as before. Win Key - Type - Enter. It is separated into three categories now which is annoying though. And of course you can pin stuff to the taskbar like before or have a shortcut on the desktop. And then there is a power menu if you right click in the bottom left corner.
 
giga said:
Hey look, Asus PR are pieces of shit. Guess they don't care about female customers.

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That's disgusting, I hope he gets fired.
 
glaurung said:
[*]Desktop mode is a joke. I mean, isn't it? I am very much a keyboard person and at home I use a dual monitor setup. My primary Windows work is done using the keyboard (Start > Run > shortcut name > Enter) is still the fastest way to get around this thing. I have an entire array of two or three letter shortcuts that I use to launch stuff that I use daily. Now that the Start menu is gone, where should I get access to them? I am not going to clutter my desktop with them.
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You do it exactly the same way. Windows key > start typing > Enter.
 
Jobiensis said:
So is there a keyboard shortcut to get back to the desktop when in Metro/Start mode?
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the windows key switches you back and forth from the previous application to the start screen. Be it the Desktop (which is considered an app now) or something like the weather app. There is of course Windows Key + D that goes to the desktop every time.

http://windowsteamblog.com/cfs-file...D00_for_2D00_Windows_2D00_8_5F00_5756566F.png

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows/...e/2012/03/08/getting-around-in-windows-8.aspx
 
Troll said:
30 million songs.... wow.


How many songs are on iTunes?
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That's 2 or 3 times more than the Zune pass I think. Curious about pricing and if the Zune pass subscribers will be migrated over.

SCHUEY F1 said:
I'm growing to hate the gaming side.
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Not hate, but it's quite funny over there sometimes. A lot of rage.
 
Zombie James said:
I thought Windows on ARM didn't give access to the desktop unless you wanted to run Office?

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[url]http://www.anandtech.com/show/5907/hands-on-with-asus-tablet-600-windows-rt[/url][/QUOTE]You can still use the desktop it just doesn't let you install anything.
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brotkasten said:
The desktop will always be accessible from every version. It's not like you have other file managers than the explorer.
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I don't know if any other apps let you use it, or similar. But if you try opening a PDF in the Reader app there is at least access to your whole file system and all your drives, with a file tree. So maybe they are working on something!
 
So Samsung Transformer tablet?

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Supposedly has a stylus slot, 11 inchesish. Kind of light on details.
 
Due to the insane number of vents in the back:
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I'm pretty sure this will be running x86 and some sort of ivy bridge processor.
 
anyone else get into the habit of trying to close fullscreen desktop stuff (vlc, flash video etc...) by trying to pull down and then noticing that you need to hit esc? I have done this too many times to count.
 
Office is simply too complex and established for it to be possible to expect a Metro version of it. The Metro app platform itself wasn't finished until a few months ago - that means Office would have needed to be constantly adapting to a changing app platform on top of that complexity.

You can barely tell though when you're using ARM. Office 15 loads full-screen, it has a very touch-friendly interface, so it's practically unrecognizable as a Desktop app. Plus you get the benefit of still being able to resize windows for when you do happen to use a mouse+keyboard dock or something.
 
dLMN8R said:
Office is simply too complex and established for it to be possible to expect a Metro version of it. The Metro app platform itself wasn't finished until a few months ago - that means Office would have needed to be constantly adapting to a changing app platform on top of that complexity.

You can barely tell though when you're using ARM. Office 15 loads full-screen, it has a very touch-friendly interface, so it's practically unrecognizable as a Desktop app. Plus you get the benefit of still being able to resize windows for when you do happen to use a mouse+keyboard dock or something.
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Spill the beans on Office 15.
 
dLMN8R said:
Office is simply too complex and established for it to be possible to expect a Metro version of it. The Metro app platform itself wasn't finished until a few months ago - that means Office would have needed to be constantly adapting to a changing app platform on top of that complexity.

You can barely tell though when you're using ARM. Office 15 loads full-screen, it has a very touch-friendly interface, so it's practically unrecognizable as a Desktop app. Plus you get the benefit of still being able to resize windows for when you do happen to use a mouse+keyboard dock or something.
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There is a Metro version of Office -- it's on Windows phone. It wouldn't have been necessary to create a feature complete version of Metro Office. Apple still hasn't managed to do that for their iOS version of iWork and they had a three year headstart. Microsoft could have treated Office like they did Internet Explorer, another complex and established app, and created both Metro and Desktop versions that could be switched asthe usage context demanded. OneNote in particular should be a Metro app not a desktop app. Keeping Office as a desktop app doesnt set a good example for what developers should be aiming to create for the Windows App Marketplace. This whole situation smacks of the Microsoft Office team protecting their turf.
 
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