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thirty said:
where are those samsung and nokia phones?
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We've known for a while now Nokia has a conference in October. Don't expect anything till then or maybe a little bit before if something leaks.
 
I'm really happy with WP7 and I don't even have Mango yet. I can't forsee myself switching to Android or iPhone. I have an Android tablet only because there is no Windows 8 tablet yet. (I do enjoy the tablet however).
 
SCHUEY F1 said:
I'm really happy with WP7 and I don't even have Mango yet. I can't forsee myself switching to Android or iPhone. I have an Android tablet only because there is no Windows 8 tablet yet. (I do enjoy the tablet however).
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When you get Mango you are gonna be like how did I life my WP7 life before. It just must have been so primitive! LOL
 
I can't see myself going anywhere else. I like having my old iPhone around as a decent dedicated music/podcast player and gaming device but man is it boring from a UI and usability perspective. Couple that with the fact that I detest having to use so many dedicated apps and Windows Phone is firmly where I want to be.
 
Anno said:
I can't see myself going anywhere else. I like having my old iPhone around as a decent dedicated music/podcast player and gaming device but man is it boring from a UI and usability perspective. Couple that with the fact that I detest having to use so many dedicated apps and Windows Phone is firmly where I want to be.
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I have an iPod touch kicking around, but I just use my phone for podcasts and music now. I feel bad that I don't use it anymore since it was a christmas gift from my wife.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
Yep. Except Zune sucks on it. I dislike the iOS UI
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Really? I love the Zune implementation, the layout has worked fairly well since the Zune HD, and I was very pleased with it then. Frankly, of Microsoft's Zune efforts, this is easily their best. It does so much more, especially with a Zune Pass sub. I was one of those, "I use this device for music, and this as a phone" to save battery life, but I can't help it, my Zune HD has been passed to my wife.

This only thing I've been missing, well two things, are gapless playback, and Smart DJ. I'm getting Smart DJ with Mango, and gapless, haven't heard anything. Which is dumb oversight.
 
I played with a WP7 today for a bit and it's really nice. The UI is very cohesive feeling. It's almost minority report like in the animations and stuff.

If tmo doesn't get iPhone maybe I'll look into a WP7 instead of a BB. How is the music implementation if I have a mac though? It would be nice if I can use it as my music device like I would the iPhone.
 
Any ninjas on here can explain (with howto's) the new developments with the Omnia 7. on wmpoweruser it says I can install latest Mango, and have it dev unlocked (sideloading.)

I haven't got a clue how to do it :(
 
kaskade said:
I played with a WP7 today for a bit and it's really nice. The UI is very cohesive feeling. It's almost minority report like in the animations and stuff.

If tmo doesn't get iPhone maybe I'll look into a WP7 instead of a BB. How is the music implementation if I have a mac though? It would be nice if I can use it as my music device like I would the iPhone.
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yeah, you can do that. Every phone is a Zune so it's all there.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id415571499?mt=12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfc9obT-hvE
 
http://wmpoweruser.com/leaked-samsung-omnia-7-mango-rom-brings-many-improvements/

I'm stuck here,
I have the rom and phone is plugged in but it doesn't let me "start" the flash.
Help :( (I'm on mango beta)

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I'm off to bed so hopefully I can reply in the morning...
 
Pretty sure your Omnia needs to be in Download mode to use that.

See that nothing is listed under the ports section? That means it doesn't see your phone.
 
I'm horribly impatient, so I don't know what I'm going to do. My upgrade was back in July and I've been holding out for a new WP7 device, but still no clarity on when the devices might arrive, and if there's a new iPhone out by then or the Nexus Prime, it's going to be tough to fight the geek in me. I love and prefer WP7, but with my camera is busted and I want a new phone.
 
claviertekky said:
As a Sprint user, it'll be hard to not buy the iPhone 5 when it comes out if there aren't any Mango devices unless the iPhone 5 requires a 4G plan.

Overall, is WP7-GAF happy with their phones as opposed to an iPhone?
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I'm in the same boat - with Sprint, I'm going to have to choose between iPhone, Android, and WP7. The only Sprint WP7 phone is the HTC Arrive - is it worth it w/ the Mango update assuming it's the only WP7 option for us?
 
VanMardigan said:
I'm horribly impatient, so I don't know what I'm going to do. My upgrade was back in July and I've been holding out for a new WP7 device, but still no clarity on when the devices might arrive, and if there's a new iPhone out by then or the Nexus Prime, it's going to be tough to fight the geek in me. I love and prefer WP7, but with my camera is busted and I want a new phone.
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We can't afford to lose you, Van. Who will tell me to shut the fuck up, when I bitch about Microsoft's slowness and how I already want Tango on my phone?

XiaNaphryz said:
I'm in the same boat - with Sprint, I'm going to have to choose between iPhone, Android, and WP7. The only Sprint WP7 phone is the HTC Arrive - is it worth it w/ the Mango update assuming it's the only WP7 option for us?
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Landscape support is much, much better in Mango. The only thing that doesn't rotate is the home screen.
 
brotkasten said:
Landscape support is much, much better in Mango. The only thing that doesn't rotate is the home screen.
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I'm seriously considering an Arrive as I really like a good hardware keyboard option, so that's good to hear.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
I'm seriously considering an Arrive as I really like a good hardware keyboard option, so that's good to hear.
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you might want to look into the Dell Venue Pro. you can get them on the cheap direct from Dell in Att or Tmo bands and is one of the only phones with a 32gb option.
 
thirty said:
you might want to look into the Dell Venue Pro. you can get them on the cheap direct from Dell in Att or Tmo bands and is one of the only phones with a 32gb option.
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Sprint runs on CDMA, not GSM.

The only WP7 phone available for Sprint is the HTC Arrive, which is equivalant to its GSM brother, the HTC 7 Pro.
 
thirty said:
you might want to look into the Dell Venue Pro. you can get them on the cheap direct from Dell in Att or Tmo bands and is one of the only phones with a 32gb option.
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It doesnt have arrow keys though which is imo one of the few reasons to go hardware keyboard over software. Sept 15 can't get here fast enough, I'm real eager to see the next generation windows phones.
 
Greyface said:
It doesnt have arrow keys though which is imo one of the few reasons to go hardware keyboard over software. Sept 15 can't get here fast enough, I'm real eager to see the next generation windows phones.
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What's on September 15th?
 
Man the Dell Venue Pro is pretty nice. I wish they made the venue with Wp7. I kind of would rather not have the slide out keyboard and shed the extra weight and size. It's pretty cheap though for 300 off contract.

Does MS not want expandable media? It seems with the Venue pro it's easy to get at the SD card but it voids the warranty.
 
MS didn't intend for the memory to be expandable... a few manufacturers gave their phones microSD card slots anyway.. when you insert a microSD card into a WP7 device, it formats the internal storage and the microSD card as one storage device, and it sets the "secure" flag on the card.. so that it won't be recognized/readable by other most other devices (Nokia phones can recognize the secure flag.. it seems that most other phones/devices won't do that)
 
kaskade said:
Does MS not want expandable media? It seems with the Venue pro it's easy to get at the SD card but it voids the warranty.
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The worst part about it is that the amount of storage is pathetic. 8GB with no SD card option is just... bad.
 
brotkasten said:
Google finally flipped the switch and YouTube's mobile HTML5 site works now in IE9. Fuck yeah.
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Wish totally unexpected. I tried to get it to work immediately as soon as I got mango on my phone and was disappointed. I resigned myself to just the lame app. This is AWESOME news. Just tried it out, and it is boss.
 
NotTarts said:
The worst part about it is that the amount of storage is pathetic. 8GB with no SD card option is just... bad.
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That's what's kind of pulling me away from the phones. I would like to use it as my music device as well since it's probably the best phone media player next to the iphone. I would like at least 32 gb. most phones come with 8, some 16. That's why the Venue Pro is looking pretty nice right now, at least there's a way to add memory. I guess I'll wait until the 15th and see what the future WP7 devices look like and if Apple has any announcements for tmo.
 
brotkasten said:
Google finally flipped the switch and YouTube's mobile HTML5 site works now in IE9. Fuck yeah.
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Even the quality is impressive.... can finally remove the youtube apps. The one big negative is the lack of the scrub bar controls in the media player (tap on the timeline to go to a certain point).... do get the 30 skip button which will do well enough for now but now that we have the scrub bar on other things not having it here is a flaw. Also no integration with embedded videos in ie9 yet.
 
Wow, that mobile Youtube site is frickin awesome. Videos look pretty good too. The menu button up top takes you to your dashboard with subscriptions, your favorites, your uploads, etc. I think I'll delete the YT apps I have.
 
jagowar said:
Even the quality is impressive.... can finally remove the youtube apps. The one big negative is the lack of the scrub bar controls in the media player (tap on the timeline to go to a certain point).... do get the 30 skip button which will do well enough for now but now that we have the scrub bar on other things not having it here is a flaw. Also no integration with embedded videos in ie9 yet.
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I'll keep supertube. Better media controls and I can download the videos.
 
Dear Zune Music Pass Subscriber,

We’re writing to let you know about an important change to your Zune Music Pass. Starting 13 September, 2011, the number of devices you may download Zune Music Pass content to will be reduced from 6 total devices (3 personal computers and 3 Windows Phones) to 4 total devices (at least one personal computer and any combination of 3 additional PC’s and Windows Phones). In addition, you will need to download one new song with your Zune Music Pass and sync it to the devices you want to use to continue playing previously downloaded content. Your continued use of the Zune Music Pass subscription service after 13 September 2011 will constitute your consent to this change in subscription requirements. If you do not agree to this change, you may cancel your subscription by logging in to the PC software, clicking on the “Account” section, and then selecting the “cancel Zune Music Pass” option. Thank you for being a loyal Zune Music Pass customer.
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Know this isn't a Zune thread but...

Is it only UK Zune pass subscribers that received this email? That's probably enough devices for me however I am quite dismayed at the reduction in service for no compensation AND the lack of warning is ridiculous, 1 week warning of quite a big change in service, what if I were on holiday and my annual was about to roll over? OR am I missing something :?

We already miss out on the 10 credits per month that they give people on the US pass
 
If it's all regions it's probably Microsoft. If it's only the UK, it's probably a label thing.
Although when something goes south it's almost always a label thing -.-
 
Damn it, never thought the flash through, forgot all my settings, what apps I installed. Phone is swiped. Guess I'm spending tomorrow setting this thing up.

Thank goodness for contact sync. At least I didn't lose my numbers.
 
Hypertrooper said:
Nope. The only other pay method is AT&T exclusive.(Paying via phone bill) Otherwise WP7 is creditcard only.
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That sucks :| you can use PayPal on Xbox Live which is really useful if you live outside the region your XBL account is set to. The marketplace needs more payment methods!
 
Sleeplessnights said:
That sucks :| you can use PayPal on Xbox Live which is really useful if you live outside the region your XBL account is set to. The marketplace needs more payment methods!
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I really do not know why the marketplace doesn't support Microsoft points.
 
the korean government just raided the google offices in Seoul. guess samsung and lg really didn't like that google bought motorola.

come on sammy, give us the new Galaxy S III, exclusive on Windows Phone.
 
Hypertrooper said:
I really do not know why the marketplace doesn't support Microsoft points.
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I ask this at PAX and Xbox Live team pretty much laugh at me and said go ask Windows Phone team. I almost get a feeling they don't really want to support Windows Phone with Live but were mandate by the higher up.
 
Anyone catch the tidbit from the Nvidia CEO regarding Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20102167-94/nvidia-ceo-sees-tenfold-growth-in-mobile-chip-biz/

Nvidia CEO sees tenfold growth in mobile-chip biz

By: Roger Cheng SEPTEMBER 6, 2011 12:32 PM PDT

Nvidia, best known for its high-end graphics chips, will generate a vast majority of its revenue from its now burgeoning mobile-processor business, according to outspoken Chief Executive Jen-Hsun Huang.

Huang, speaking to a roundtable of reporters today, said he expects revenue from its mobile-chip business to grow tenfold, to $20 billion by 2015. In comparison, the graphics processor business is expected to grow 75 percent, to $7 billion in the same time frame.

"We'll be quite a force to contend with," Huang said.

Over the past few years, Nvidia has exited the computer chipset business and moved into the faster-growing mobile-processor business with its Tegra chips, found in devices such as Samsung Electronics' Galaxy S II phones. Huang said that in the smartphone and tablet businesses, Nvidia and Qualcomm are the only real serious providers of chips to consumer electronics equipment manufacturers.

"We're the only person actively on the dance floor with Qualcomm," he said.

There is an addressable market of 100 million devices that need mobile processors this year, a figure that could balloon to 1 billion, he said. The growth is expected to be driven by more mass-market smartphones, computers running on more efficient ARM processors, and the proliferation of energy-efficient ultrathin notebooks.

Huang estimates that Tegra chips are found on half of all high-end Android smartphones and 70 percent of Android tablets, and he added that he expects Nvidia to maintain a high market share in both businesses. He also sees an opportunity to provide chips for mass-market smartphones due to its acquisition of Icera, which enables the company to combine a cellular radio with a processor, much like Qualcomm does with its line of Snapdragon chips.

Despite Android tablets' slow start, Huang said they will make up half of the market in four years, or roughly the same amount of time it took for Android smartphones to win widespread acceptance in the market.

Huang's confidence underscores the tremendous growth in the mobile-devices business, which has been a boon to some companies, even as other traditional players have flailed. He added that companies need to have a mobile strategy to succeed in the computing business.

"If you don't have a mobile strategy, you're in deep turd," Huang said. "If you're not in mobile processors now, you're seven years too late."

Hewlett-Packard's decision to spin off its PC business and shutter its WebOS mobile division is indicative of not having a clear strategy in mobile, he said. Likewise, he doesn't believe that Intel poses a major threat because its low-power Atom chips don't run on the same architecture as the ARM processors that power most mobile devices now.

"They're speaking the wrong language," he said. "We're not worried about them at all."

ARM processors hold a strong advantage because a majority of mobile applications are written using that standard, and not the one Intel uses. Likewise, he said he believes that apps written for Windows Phone 7 will run on Windows 8, which is an operating system designed for both PCs and tablets.

While the company's graphics chip business isn't seeing as much growth, Huang said he sees continued demand as the need rises for better graphics performance. He noted that cameras in smartphones didn't kill off the digital-SLR business, since it only drove the need for higher picture capture capabilities.

He added that the company took some of the benefits from the Tegra processor--including the ability to completely shut down when not used--and is looking to move them to its graphics processors.

While Intel is pushing Ultrabooks as a competitor to the MacBook Air in the ultra-thin category, Huang said he expects more "clamshell devices" with keyboards and more powerful mobile processors to eventually win out. He said those devices would most likely be priced at or below current tablets. The Ultrabooks are expected to retail around $1,000, while tablets can be bought for less than half that price.

With $2.5 billion in cash on the books, Huang said Nvidia isn't done buying other companies. He noted that while the valuations for Internet start-ups are high, chip start-ups can be had for decent value. Nvidia announced its acquisition of Icera for $367 million in May.

"We're always looking for a good opportunity," he said.
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Two converts from my family in the last 7 days. One was moving from a non-smart phone and another was an iPhone user. When people actually get their hands on a Mango enabled phone, it really does make a huge difference in perception. I've got a large family, so I'm constantly showing my siblings and nephews features and functionality. A majority of my iPhone owning relatives have said they wished they had Mango phones after hands on with mine. Market this shit, Microsoft!
 
Japanese cell phone carrier, Au, launched a quirky ad for WP7.

http://youtu.be/EIz4C93i-U8

Mentions a few things like nice easy and cute design, small size, water-proof, changeable color themes, texting, sky drive, and others.

The ad makes a big deal how much easier it is to text (although I have not yet used a Japanese iPhone nor Android phone). He gives an example of how to input words like Gorgonzola and paparazzi.

Ends the ad with a phonetic sound, "Doin!"
 
Does Mango sort videos in the hub by name now? Or does it still sort them by the date they were added to the phone?

edit: ^ woah.
 
Steelyuhas said:
What didn't you like before that you are warming to now?

Curious, because it seems like a great device to me.
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I just wish it had 32GB of space and a better quality screen. (I'm hoping samsung delivers)
 
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