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Windows Phone |OT3 Update 3| Please be excited

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I am looking to purchase a Windows phone, I currently have Galaxy 2 for work and I really dislike android. I have an Iphone for personal use but I am tired of carrying 2 phones around so I am getting ride of the Droid, because I just don't like it. The problem is the iphone is terrible for work. I think a windows phone would be best for me. My question is I know know much about the phones available. What should I look into? I like to do a lot of research before I make a purchase. AT&T is the provider for me.
For ATT, you wait a few months assuming you can. Should be an 8.1 flagship in the fall.

Unless you want the 6" phone, which is available on ATT now (but there is apparently an updated version of that phone coming soon to multiple carriers including ATT, so you should probably wait either way).
 

Paganmoon

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no. My change in scenery was simply because now was the opportune time. It's really easy to shoehorn yourself into an area like security, and it was something that I'm not sure I want to do for a long time. The time spent was certainly worth it, as I've grown a greater appreciation for the fragility of the modern state of security (large swathes of research done on open-source products, hardware, websites, etc etc).

Nearly all of my colleagues will still be working either primarily or with split effort on WP. The new OS Group organization under Terry and intiated by Ballmer's One Microsoft is a lot more integrated than before. That, of course, is possible due to the alignment of WP kernel and Xbox OS's inherent similarity to Windows8. The groups can develop things more easily to work for all three platforms. All that I can really say without treading into deeper waters

Oh, didn't expect such a thorough response, thanks!

So... any inside info on new phones for fall? Only for GAF, we won't tell anyone else, I promise :)
 

JaggedSac

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hankster

Member
My Lumia 900 is really starting to struggle. I have an upgrade from AT&T ready but I cant bite on the 1020 even though it is a .01 upgrade. Now Amazon has the LG G3 and the HTC One M8 both for $99 with an upgrade.

I want to stick with Windows phone but I don't know if my 900 will make it. Any news on what new Lumias are on the immediate horizon
Hop (hah) over to Cricket for a few months, get a 635 free AR or a 1320 cheap AR, hop back for the flagship in the fall.
 
Windows Phone was launched in 2010.
WhatsApp came to Windows Phone in 2011.
Notifications have been shit in the past.
It took Microsoft 4 years to implement a notification center.
4 years later, Notifications are still shit.

What the fuck is the problem?!

Seriously, if there's one thing I will not miss about Windows Phone, then it's the shitty notification system.
 

MCD

Junior Member
Windows Phone was launched in 2010.
WhatsApp came to Windows Phone in 2011.
Notifications have been shit in the past.
It took Microsoft 4 years to implement a notification center.
4 years later, Notifications are still shit.

What the fuck is the problem?!

Seriously, if there's one thing I will not miss about Windows Phone, then it's the shitty notification system.

Wait for GDR1.
 

Paganmoon

Member
Windows Phone was launched in 2010.
WhatsApp came to Windows Phone in 2011.
Notifications have been shit in the past.
It took Microsoft 4 years to implement a notification center.
4 years later, Notifications are still shit.

What the fuck is the problem?!

Seriously, if there's one thing I will not miss about Windows Phone, then it's the shitty notification system.

And we have gently segued back into anger/frustration phase.

This thread really is like a bad soap opera at times :( Do you see what you're making us into Microsoft? do you?

Lastflowers, have you ever pointed one of the others in the WP crew to this thread, to show how much suffering and pain us WP fanatics have?
 
Windows Phone was launched in 2010.
WhatsApp came to Windows Phone in 2011.
Notifications have been shit in the past.
It took Microsoft 4 years to implement a notification center.
4 years later, Notifications are still shit.

What the fuck is the problem?!

Seriously, if there's one thing I will not miss about Windows Phone, then it's the shitty notification system.

You are not please understanding enough!
 

Ape

Banned
no. My change in scenery was simply because now was the opportune time. It's really easy to shoehorn yourself into an area like security, and it was something that I'm not sure I want to do for a long time. The time spent was certainly worth it, as I've grown a greater appreciation for the fragility of the modern state of security (large swathes of research done on open-source products, hardware, websites, etc etc).

Nearly all of my colleagues will still be working either primarily or with split effort on WP. The new OS Group organization under Terry and intiated by Ballmer's One Microsoft is a lot more integrated than before. That, of course, is possible due to the alignment of WP kernel and Xbox OS's inherent similarity to Windows8. The groups can develop things more easily to work for all three platforms. All that I can really say without treading into deeper waters

Since no one else is saying it, congrats on the new job. I know how easy it is to get stuck doing the same thing at a company for a long time. I was able to eventually break out of that, thankfully and it felt great.
 

derFeef

Member
Since no one else is saying it, congrats on the new job. I know how easy it is to get stuck doing the same thing at a company for a long time. I was able to eventually break out of that, thankfully and it felt great.

Yeah, good luck on your new job lastflowers! Also want to do that right now, but it's tough without obvious opportunities.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Windows Phone was launched in 2010.
WhatsApp came to Windows Phone in 2011.
Notifications have been shit in the past.
It took Microsoft 4 years to implement a notification center.
4 years later, Notifications are still shit.

What the fuck is the problem?!

Seriously, if there's one thing I will not miss about Windows Phone, then it's the shitty notification system.

Glance screen is great though. Was playing with my nexus 4 last week (got it back from my wife) and having to press a button just to see anything was surprisingly frustrating. Glance + double tap to unlock is something I'd find hard to lose
 

kharma45

Member
Glance screen is great though. Was playing with my nexus 4 last week (got it back from my wife) and having to press a button just to see anything was surprisingly frustrating. Glance + double tap to unlock is something I'd find hard to lose

Yet Nokia didn't think the 930 was worthy of Glance. Should've went LCD rather than OLED.
 

Calm Killer

In all media, only true fans who consume every book, film, game, or pog collection deserve to know what's going on.
For ATT, you wait a few months assuming you can. Should be an 8.1 flagship in the fall.

Unless you want the 6" phone, which is available on ATT now (but there is apparently an updated version of that phone coming soon to multiple carriers including ATT, so you should probably wait either way).

I was looking at the 1520, but I think its to large for me. I will check one out in the store, if it is to big I will wait. Thanks!
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
Notifications on windows phone seemed better in 8.1, though reliability was still below android and iOS. On android, you have your own set of challenges, like phantom notifications where the app doesn't identify itself and spam notifications. On the HTC skin, they also aren't very actionable for the most part and cluttered quickly. Still, reliability is more important than anything and android ones certainly seem more reliable. I wonder whether the framework for good notifications is there in 8.1 and devs just haven't taken advantage, which is always a problem when your apps aren't updated as much.
 

RoadHazard

Gold Member
I am looking to purchase a Windows phone, I currently have Galaxy 2 for work and I really dislike android.

What you're really (probably) saying is that you dislike Samsung's bloated and ugly version of Android, i.e. TouchWiz. For which I don't blame you at all, it's awful. Vanilla Android (or at least something closer to it) is a vastly superior experience. But that's not a discussion for this thread, I suppose

Notifications on windows phone seemed better in 8.1, though reliability was still below android and iOS. On android, you have your own set of challenges, like phantom notifications where the app doesn't identify itself and spam notifications.

That's not an issue in Android anymore, since you can long-press any notification, view app info, and then disable all notifications from that app on the system level. No more spam. But not everyone knows you can do this, I guess.
 
no. My change in scenery was simply because now was the opportune time. It's really easy to shoehorn yourself into an area like security, and it was something that I'm not sure I want to do for a long time. The time spent was certainly worth it, as I've grown a greater appreciation for the fragility of the modern state of security (large swathes of research done on open-source products, hardware, websites, etc etc).

Nearly all of my colleagues will still be working either primarily or with split effort on WP. The new OS Group organization under Terry and intiated by Ballmer's One Microsoft is a lot more integrated than before. That, of course, is possible due to the alignment of WP kernel and Xbox OS's inherent similarity to Windows8. The groups can develop things more easily to work for all three platforms. All that I can really say without treading into deeper waters
Congratulations on the new position lastflowers!
 

Paganmoon

Member
bit off topic, but still a bit on topic regarding my earlier mini-rant about Microsoft Marketing, just got this little tidbit from Microsoft Learning, geared towards Exchange Professionals (I work with MS server products, and primarily Exchange)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ5QXashAgE#t=85

I mean wtf Microsoft, this is for Exchange professionals, not 8 year olds... Who thought this was a good idea?
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
That's not an issue in Android anymore, since you can long-press any notification, view app info, and then disable all notifications from that app on the system level. No more spam. But not everyone knows you can do this, I guess.

Yep, that's one problem, but I also had notifications where the app wouldn't identify itself and the long press wasn't an option. I think I eventually found it was one of those pre installed carrier bloatware apps.
 
Are you guys/gals experiencing a delay in the Photos live tile loading an image on return to the start screen when set to favourites or single photo?
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Yet Nokia didn't think the 930 was worthy of Glance. Should've went LCD rather than OLED.

Wait, what? I just ordered a 930. How can it not have glance? My 920 has glance!?

Edit: and no double tap to wake? Nooo.

Glance mode and passive notifications is one reason I think smart watches could have some value. (Do MS have any plans here?)
 
Wait, what? I just ordered a 930. How can it not have glance? My 920 has glance!?

That's what I've been saying since the Lumia ICON was known not to have Glance. The 930/ICON are shitty Lumias, if they can't support of one the standout features. Apparently it's the 1080p OLED panel that causes problems.
 
<3 the ICON. I don't really care for glance though.

edit: thanks all for the grats. Hopefully you'll like the project when it comes out :). It's more visible than security, that's for certain.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Glance isn't that useful to me, especially when it is upside down

I usually out my phone into my pocket upside down, so when I take it out the time is correct. Will try turning it off on my 920 for a few days, see how I get on :/
 

PG2G

Member
I usually out my phone into my pocket upside down, so when I take it out the time is correct. Will try turning it off on my 920 for a few days, see how I get on :/

Glance was actually upside down on my phone for some reason. Had to reboot to fix it lol
 

KageMaru

Member
Congrats on the new position LF! I'm currently stuck in an IT position at my company, so I know how easy it is to fall in that trap.

That's what I've been saying since the Lumia ICON was known not to have Glance. The 930/ICON are shitty Lumias, if they can't support of one the standout features. Apparently it's the 1080p OLED panel that causes problems.

Pretty dramatic to call a phone shitty because of one feature.
 

joshschw

Member
I love glance, so if in the future it was a choice between phones and one had it and the other not, I'd definitely go for the GLANCE capable one.

Super feature, and I wish Nokia had made it just enough of a priority to get it into the ICON/930, thought perhaps there was no OLED panels period at that size that worked with it. Bah!
 
Pretty dramatic to call a phone shitty because of one feature.

Gotta call it how it is. The 930 isn't exciting in the first place, removing a feature from the predecessor surely doesn't help.

Glance was actually upside down on my phone for some reason. Had to reboot to fix it lol

Had the same problem yesterday. It was weird.

Others getting duplicated toasts from Twitter since the latest update?

Yep.
 

KageMaru

Member
I love glance, so if in the future it was a choice between phones and one had it and the other not, I'd definitely go for the GLANCE capable one.

Super feature, and I wish Nokia had made it just enough of a priority to get it into the ICON/930, thought perhaps there was no OLED panels period at that size that worked with it. Bah!

The issue is the lack of display memory in the screen.

Gotta call it how it is. The 930 isn't exciting in the first place, removing a feature from the predecessor surely doesn't help.

Fair enough if the feature is that important to you or anyone else. I thought it was a big loss too but it hasn't negatively affected my opinion of the phone once owning it. I'd much rather have the other features the phone offers than glance, so my priorities differ.
 

kharma45

Member
Wait, what? I just ordered a 930. How can it not have glance? My 920 has glance!?

Edit: and no double tap to wake? Nooo.

Glance mode and passive notifications is one reason I think smart watches could have some value. (Do MS have any plans here?)

Double tap to wake is there, it's just Glance that isn't.
 

RoadHazard

Gold Member
Yep, that's one problem, but I also had notifications where the app wouldn't identify itself and the long press wasn't an option. I think I eventually found it was one of those pre installed carrier bloatware apps.

Oh, those can "hide" themselves? Sounds awful. I haven't bought a carrier-branded phone in ages, there's very little reason to here in Sweden. But I know it's different in the US where the carriers control the entire phone market. It's not like that here, you can just go buy any phone unlocked and then use it on any carrier you want.
 

derFeef

Member
I think my 920 is really dying now after the fall and cracked screen. It's like it's running at half cores and half speed, ugh. Will be getting a 630 today then, sooner than planned but oh well.

edit: yes also dupe twitter notifications.
 

Ape

Banned
I think my 920 is really dying now after the fall and cracked screen. It's like it's running at half cores and half speed, ugh. Will be getting a 630 today then, sooner than planned but oh well.

edit: yes also dupe twitter notifications.


What's with all the 920s dying? Someone should do a case study.
 
Guys, what would be the correct translation of "Please understand" in French? I don't want to use Google translate for that and then be wrong.
 
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