Windows Phone |OT3 Update 3| Please be excited

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You chose the wrong phone and ecosystem from the sounds of it.

Not really. Yes it's true that Google hasn't don't anything to support the platform (and even more to be directly antagonistic toward it), there are more than enough immensely high-quality third-party apps to fill the gaps.

And in most cases, those third-party apps like Metrotube, MyTube, and others are even better than the official apps on other platforms.


Watevamanz - add WP Central to your favorites. Excellent site that does a great job highlighting apps and such.

For example, gmail: http://www.wpcentral.com/metromail-first-full-gmail-app-windows-phone
 
I bumped the old OT so I will ask again here:

My Lumia 920 is broken. I want to remain in the WP ecosystem.

Nokia Lumia 1520 is my best bet? I just want a faster stronger version of my current phone.

Any reason the phone wouldn't work in Canada?
 
Not really. Yes it's true that Google hasn't don't anything to support the platform (and even more to be directly antagonistic toward it), there are more than enough immensely high-quality third-party apps to fill the gaps.

And in most cases, those third-party apps like Metrotube, MyTube, and others are even better than the official apps on other platforms.


Watevamanz - add WP Central to your favorites. Excellent site that does a great job highlighting apps and such.

For example, gmail: http://www.wpcentral.com/metromail-first-full-gmail-app-windows-phone

Metromail is no where near as good as the native Gmail app on Android and has performance issues. Plus you have to pay for it. Mytube and Metrotube (which I bought both) are great but you have to buy them or get limited use. Plus his question about browsers and customization on WP is limited compared to Android.
 
Hey welcome to the 3% if you live in the U.S. =P

As for your questions:

-not sure on the email apps, I'm happy enough with the default app. Hopefully someone else can answer this for you.

-As for YouTube apps, MyTube and Metrotube are excellent YouTube apps. YouTubeHD is another one that's pretty good.

-Surfy is a browser that shows your open tabs on the top of the screen. Only thing with WP is any browser needs to use the IE rendering engine.

-You can change your background with the 8.1 update. You should be able to find all you need on updating your phone here:

http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows...-read-first-post-before-asking-questions.html

Just a heads up, I also have an Icon and have run into some consistent issues after updating to 8.1. Not sure if every Icon owner runs into the same issues, but since this update isn't final, you may also run into bugs.

Not really. Yes it's true that Google hasn't don't anything to support the platform (and even more to be directly antagonistic toward it), there are more than enough immensely high-quality third-party apps to fill the gaps.

And in most cases, those third-party apps like Metrotube, MyTube, and others are even better than the official apps on other platforms.


Watevamanz - add WP Central to your favorites. Excellent site that does a great job highlighting apps and such.

For example, gmail: http://www.wpcentral.com/metromail-first-full-gmail-app-windows-phone

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll be sure to check them all out. As I said, I'm really wanting to like this phone and it seems like it's great so I appreciate you giving me all the advice on how to cater it to me.
 
I bumped the old OT so I will ask again here:

My Lumia 920 is broken. I want to remain in the WP ecosystem.

Nokia Lumia 1520 is my best bet? I just want a faster stronger version of my current phone.

Any reason the phone wouldn't work in Canada?

Well, the 930 is being released, which is a faster, stronger, and a bit bigger than the 930. comes with quadcore QUALCOMM instead of dualcore on the 920. No idea about Canada though.
 
Ever since I started using Xbox Music on 8.1, "Loading..." became my favorite song.

Fucking hell.

This app should've stayed part of the OS. A music player on a phone should be a native app. I keep wondering why we haven't seen any 8.1 phones, but anybody on the developer preview knows the obvious answer: This software isn't ready for primetime.
 
Ever since I started using Xbox Music on 8.1, "Loading..." became my favorite song.

Fucking hell.

Haha, this made me chuckle.

My girlfriend has the HTC One M8 - I'm torn between the device hardware being pretty damn nice, a complete OS with every feature under the sun, but also an incoherent UI.

There better be some good WP8.1 handsets come this Christmas.
 
Haha, this made me chuckle.

My girlfriend has the HTC One M8 - I'm torn between the device hardware being pretty damn nice, a complete OS with every feature under the sun, but also an incoherent UI.

There better be some good WP8.1 handsets come this Christmas.

There's a new Android superphone announced everyday. The 930/Icon looks so behind from a hardware/design standpoint.
 
That's what I thought.

I'm not quite sure where this sudden thing in this thread of WP being shit and behind the times is coming from when in the past it was nowhere near to feature parity to iOS and Android when now it is (mostly) and when the WP flagship phones were at least a year behind spec wise when now they are absolutely not.

Sort yourselves out, whinge-boys.
 
WP hardware-wise is just slow and not many phones overall. Relying on Nokia and carrier exclusive phones won't get MS anywhere.
 
Well, the 930 is being released, which is a faster, stronger, and a bit bigger than the 930. comes with quadcore QUALCOMM instead of dualcore on the 920. No idea about Canada though.

Looks like Lumia 930 has literally the same specs as Lumia 1520. Except:

Pros for Lumia 1520:

Bigger screen
Thinner device
Way better battery life
microSD card slot
Likely cheaper

Pros for Lumia 930:

Lighter device
Smaller overall
Has Internet Explorer 11

They seem equal in all other aspects... For sure I would 100% rather get the Lumia 1520 in that case. Why can't Lumia 1520 have Internet Explorer 11? Is it possible to have Windows Phone 8.1 software and IE 11 on the 1520?
 
Damn that LG WP looks super nice. It probably won't come to Canada, but it seems nice at least. I'm really on the verge of changing platforms however. My Lumia 625's cracked screen has sharp edges around the search button, and since I don't want to cut my finger I'm probably going to upgrade soon. Since there's no new WP's coming out anytime soon in Canada I'm probably jumping over to android.

Going to wait a month or so at max.
 
They seem equal in all other aspects... For sure I would 100% rather get the Lumia 1520 in that case. Why can't Lumia 1520 have Internet Explorer 11? Is it possible to have Windows Phone 8.1 software and IE 11 on the 1520?

The 1520 will get Windows Phone 8.1 soon, has to be approved by carriers and wait for OEM firmware first. Or you could deploy the developer preview
 
Damn that LG WP looks super nice. It probably won't come to Canada, but it seems nice at least. I'm really on the verge of changing platforms however. My Lumia 625's cracked screen has sharp edges around the search button, and since I don't want to cut my finger I'm probably going to upgrade soon. Since there's no new WP's coming out anytime soon in Canada I'm probably jumping over to android.

Going to wait a month or so at max.

The LG phone render was a hoax.
 
That's what I thought.

I'm not quite sure where this sudden thing in this thread of WP being shit and behind the times is coming from when in the past it was nowhere near to feature parity to iOS and Android when now it is (mostly) and when the WP flagship phones were at least a year behind spec wise when now they are absolutely not.

Sort yourselves out, whinge-boys.

The Lumia 930 isn't out yet, and truth be told I'm really not so sure on how good it will be - nothing in the specs which are industry leading. The hype behind it has been poor, and all I can see on the market right now are poorer phones compared to the Android competition.

The other Lumia's are stupidly big. What other phones that are out right now which can compare with the GS5, HTC One M8 and the Z2? Am I missing something? Because currently WP hardware at the top end seems very stagnant.
 
The Lumia 930 isn't out yet, and truth be told I'm really not so sure on how good it will be - nothing in the specs which are industry leading. The hype behind it has been poor, and all I can see on the market right now are poorer phones compared to the Android competition.

The other Lumia's are stupidly big. What other phones that are out right now which can compare with the GS5, HTC One M8 and the Z2? Am I missing something? Because currently WP hardware at the top end seems very stagnant.

It's out next week in the UK.

It may not be industry leading, but it's on par with the industry leading phones from a hardware perspective. With a better camera. And Qi charging built in. And it's certainly leading from a audio recording point of view. And it's thin and relatively light and I think it looks really nice.

The only thing that's a bit shit is that it hasn't got glance. But then neither do the industry leading phones.

Don't get me wrong, there should be more choice and frankly, the way that Nokia have been releasing phones since last autumn is nothing short of ridiculously poor. But the moaning is all a bit grass greener at the moment without any substantial complaints.

Not that I don't like a good moan. I especially like moaning about people moaning. The moaners.
 
Windows Phone will never have industry leading specs, that is the nature of the beast. The 1520, Icon, and 930 are all on par with this generation of Android devices though (primarily because there hasn't been much of an advance in SoC in the last year, but that's another topic).

As far as hype for the 930, it's kind hard to tell since its not coming to America and the overwhelming hype machine is driven by a primarily American based media.

I will say I don't agree with Nokia's device strategy. The Icon should have been out last fall and widely available. The ohablet should have been this spring's niche device, and this fall we should (and hopefully will) get a new flagship
 
The 801 chip greatly improves battery life. That's one huge reason to want that chip over the 800 from last year. Read the reviews on gs5 and one m8 battery performance.

And of course the 805 chip will be here this summer most likely.
 
I think I'm due an upgrade on my 920 soonish. Do you think it's worth going for the 930 or should I wait for something after that? I'm comfortable with the screensize.
 
I think I'm due an upgrade on my 920 soonish. Do you think it's worth going for the 930 or should I wait for something after that? I'm comfortable with the screensize.

930 isn't worth it. Wait till the next round.

I wish Microsoft would let the Surface team flex its muscle on a phone.
 
930 isn't worth it. Wait till the next round.

I wish Microsoft would let the Surface team flex its muscle on a phone.
How so? It's a significant upgrade over the 920 hardware in every way.

I'd happily jump for the 930 if it was available in the US (still baffling to me that there appears to be no 920 successor in the US outside of Verizon).
 
How so? It's a significant upgrade over the 920 hardware in every way.

I'd happily jump for the 930 if it was available in the US (still baffling to me that there appears to be no 920 successor in the US outside of Verizon).

At least the US gets new phones. Canada has pretty much gone dark. No 1520, no 930, The last device we got was the 1020 and the only thing we have to look forward to is the 635 coming in August.
 
The 801 chip greatly improves battery life. That's one huge reason to want that chip over the 800 from last year. Read the reviews on gs5 and one m8 battery performance.

And of course the 805 chip will be here this summer most likely.

Link to support this? What are you comparing the gs5 and m8 battery life to?

The 801 is a clock boost and a slightly improved process. I have a hard time beleiving battery gains are great
 
Link to support this? What are you comparing the gs5 and m8 battery life to?

The 801 is a clock boost and a slightly improved process. I have a hard time beleiving battery gains are great

Saw this on Anandtech

On the frequency side, the gains are pretty easy to understand. The higher peak CPU speed will translate into faster web page and application loads. Higher GPU frequency will allow for smoother frame rates in 3D games, and the faster ISP frequency can enable quicker processing of camera sensor output. You can also look at the benefits of these things from the perspective of lowering power consumption. Tasks can now complete in less time, allowing these individual IP blocks to quickly move down to lower power states and increase battery life.
 
This app should've stayed part of the OS. A music player on a phone should be a native app. I keep wondering why we haven't seen any 8.1 phones, but anybody on the developer preview knows the obvious answer: This software isn't ready for primetime.

I have resorted to using nokia mix radio as my music player, loads a lot quicker than the xbox app and I get less 'resuming' screens with it.

On another note I am still getting random crashes with swift key, is there anyway to report this?
 
I think I'm due an upgrade on my 920 soonish. Do you think it's worth going for the 930 or should I wait for something after that? I'm comfortable with the screensize.
After moving from a 920 to a 1520, yes. The upgraded hardware makes it worth it.

And the video and picture quality shows. Plus the 4 microphones!
 
It's out next week in the UK.

It may not be industry leading, but it's on par with the industry leading phones from a hardware perspective. With a better camera. And Qi charging built in. And it's certainly leading from a audio recording point of view. And it's thin and relatively light and I think it looks really nice.

The only thing that's a bit shit is that it hasn't got glance. But then neither do the industry leading phones.

Don't get me wrong, there should be more choice and frankly, the way that Nokia have been releasing phones since last autumn is nothing short of ridiculously poor. But the moaning is all a bit grass greener at the moment without any substantial complaints.

Not that I don't like a good moan. I especially like moaning about people moaning. The moaners.

If it's out next week in the UK, then damn, there has been bugger all marketing on this bad boy. Which unfortunately makes me think the device isn't as all that its cracked up to be. I HOPE it is - my Lumia 920 still impresses in the camera department so I hope this continues, but if someone doesn't like the looks of the Lumia 930, on Windows Phone you are stuffed for a high end handset.

My mum has an S5 with an official case which, to be honest, is pretty cool, and the case for the M8 is pretty innovative too.

I think you are probably correct I am having the 'grass is greener on the other side' effect. I think you are also correct that I should give a Lumia 930 a chance. I'm just gutted by the time xmas comes along, my phone of choice to go on a 2 year contract on WP will likely be a phone already 6 months old. Unless a 1030 comes along in that time...
 
I think you are probably correct I am having the 'grass is greener on the other side' effect. I think you are also correct that I should give a Lumia 930 a chance. I'm just gutted by the time xmas comes along, my phone of choice to go on a 2 year contract on WP will likely be a phone already 6 months old. Unless a 1030 comes along in that time...


I don't know what carrier you're on, but the fact that the Lumia 930 isn't making it to NA implies that we will see another high end device later in the year. Anything else would just be completely idiotic.

There are a good number of people with Lumia 920 that will be looking to upgrade in November. The 1520 will be one year old by then. We will be getting something
 
Edit:

Noticed new animations for Cortana today. The halo turned into a cloud this morning before showing the weather on the live tile.

The voice was updated a few weeks ago, now the animations, wonder what change they'll make next.

The 801 chip greatly improves battery life. That's one huge reason to want that chip over the 800 from last year. Read the reviews on gs5 and one m8 battery performance.

And of course the 805 chip will be here this summer most likely.

Those phones also have larger batteries and different power saver modes. That makes it difficult to compare to the 930.

Also I thought the 805 & 810 chips weren't expected until late this year at the earliest.

930 isn't worth it. Wait till the next round.

I wish Microsoft would let the Surface team flex its muscle on a phone.

It's definitely worth it IMO, especially coming from a 920 or similar device. The leap from the 800 to 801 chip isn't big and certainly not big enough to make the 930 obsolete.
 
Link to support this? What are you comparing the gs5 and m8 battery life to?

The 801 is a clock boost and a slightly improved process. I have a hard time beleiving battery gains are great

The M8 and Gs5 have better battery life than their predecessors, and are among the best non-phablet phones in terms of battery life. The Anandtech M8 review in particular points out the generational leap in battery life from chips of a year ago, and how it extends even beyond the battery life gains of the 800 chip. But, let's suppose for a second that the 801 was ONLY a clock boost and a slightly improved process.........SO WHAT?!? I still want that on my next phone rather than last year's chip. Why is that so hard to understand?

Why do we even put up with that crap! First, it was the CE architecture that held us to single core chips, then WP8 allowed for dual core and quad core, and I don't understand why the architecture won't support whatever chip the OEM wants. The argument used to be that the chips were specifically optimized for the OS, but my wife's 1520 running on a 800 is not significantly faster than the 400 on my 1020, so whatever optimizations are there are horsecrap. Those same gains can be found if you go from the Android phones running SD400's vs. the ones running SD800's and the OS just supported it. The OEM's didn't have to wait for the OS to be "optimized" for those chips.
 
And who said that it's not supported or will be when new hardware comes out?

You're talking yourself into being upset about nothing.
 
And who said that it's not supported or will be when new hardware comes out?

The link on this very page states that it would require an OS update. We should have new phones out now, not just for people like me who buy new phones all the time, but for people with an upgrade, or to have devices lined up against the android spring flagships. The market share numbers are going to be a bloodbath this summer after all the progress we made last year.
 
And who said that it's not supported or will be when new hardware comes out?

You're talking yourself into being upset about nothing.

He has been wanting to upgrade since 1520 came out and I can see his point. I am still happy with my 1020 for now but I know my tech nerd inside starting to yearning what the other sides are offering. LG G3 really got me to seriously thinking about dumping Nokia for that phone (yeah LG of all the manufacture).

Androids got 3 phones that are out or coming out all with impressive specs while we are getting the Icon from 5-6 months ago as the next phone. There is a reason why Windows Phone is dropping in the US. With Moto E cheap Androids phone on the horizon, Microsoft reliance on the 520 to increase market share are going to be less and less attractive. Again, love Nokia phone, love Microsoft (much less so now than say 2 years ago) but they are forever moving slow and doesn't seems to gasp where the market is heading.

The link on this very page states that it would require an OS update. We should have new phones out now, not just for people like me who buy new phones all the time, but for people with an upgrade, or to have devices lined up against the android spring flagships. The market share numbers are going to be a bloodbath this summer after all the progress we made last year.

Sale is already terrible for Windows Phone in the US compare to last year.
 
Microsoft’s smartwatch will reportedly work with Android and iOS, monitor your heart rate
TheVerge said:
Microsoft has been rumored to be working on a smartwatch for more than a year now, and a refresh report today suggests the company is preparing a sensor-rich device. Forbes reports that Microsoft’s smartwatch will work with iPhones, Windows Phones, and Android handsets, and will measure heart rate to sync the data to devices. Microsoft is said to be using engineers from its Kinect division to make the smartwatch “continuously measure heart rate through the day and night.” There’s no precise timeline provided for the rumored smartwatch, but Forbes suggests it could arrive as early as this summer with two days of battery life.

If the report is accurate then it’s no surprise Microsoft is drawing on its Xbox experts to bring a smartwatch to life. Microsoft’s “father of Kinect,” Alex Kipman, is now working on wearable projects at the company, customizing Windows to run on small screens. Former head of Microsoft devices, Julie Larson-Green, also hinted at a wearable future for the company, noting at a conference last year that “sensors are going to become a big part of how you think about things.”
I am excited.

(the rumor last year was a watch that would only work with surface tablets lol good riddance balmer)
 
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