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[TheFlow]

Dub. It's definitely the way to watch the show.

Ight fam will do

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I still don't understand what Kiznaiver is. It reads like it'll be yet another 'super special teens' show but even more convoluted than usual

 

[Shard]

Jesus we are only NOW finishing off this OT?

How times have changed.

We may have had some displacement over the years.

 

[nintendoman58]

Did I miss the memo where they were universally considered garbage and a waste of time? It's hit or miss, absolutely, but they are generally "safe" anime that do not push the envelope on fanservice and have sone really good animation at times, which are two of his criteria. Gotta try something different, ya know.

Yeah but that doesn't exactly change the fact that they're not exactly considered to be stellar shows around here. Despite the fact that I'm not as hard on KEY as many others are around here, it's not exactly a show I'd recommend. And I would not DARE recommend Comet Lucifer to somebody who wants a legitimately good mecha anime.

There are much better alternatives for "safe" anime that don't push the envelope on fanservice! Here's my list:

Shin Mazinger Z
Gundam Build Fighters
Giant Robo
Hyouka
Madoka Magica
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
Baccano!
Kino's Journey
Samurai Flamenco

All these shows fit his criteria.

 

[Joe Molotov]

We may have had some displacement over the years.

I feel like Pandora in the Crimson Shell would definitely be fueling more discussion if not for various bannings.

 

[Jarmel]

I still don't understand what Kiznaiver is. It reads like it'll be yet another 'super special teens' show but even more convoluted than usual

Watch Black Rock Shooter. I'll wait.

 

[Basileus777]

It would have needed a different creative team. I don't think Ryosuke Nakamura is capable of making the trash you want.

It didn't save Grimgar from being trash. But a different creative team might have salvaged something better from the source material.

 

[Hellwarden]

I expect nothing from Kiznaiver, but I bet Trigger will find a way to disappoint.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I expect nothing from Kiznaiver, but I bet Trigger will find a way to disappoint.

I haven't cared for another they've made besides lwa. They should just make that. I mean a show about cute witches in an all girls school, why would that not sell?

 

[Jarmel]

It's about ethics in jurnalism.

 

[Shard]

I feel like Pandora in the Crimson Shell would definitely be fueling more discussion if not for various bannings.

Also, we seem to have lost SDBurton to Blade and Soul.

 

[sonicmj1]

Oh, one thing I forgot to mention from God Eater 10: it has one of the more absurd over-long dying person monologues I've ever seen.

So, at the end of the episode,

Spoiler

Lenka and his sister are cornered by Aragami, and his sister's leg wound is infected and slowing them down. She gives your basic "go on without me" speech, but Lenka can't let go because she's family and stuff. So to drive home the urgency of the moment, she takes out her knife and cuts her own throat. Damn, that's some hardcore dark shit.

Except then she keeps talking more or less normally for a whole minute afterwards before Lenka finally leaves, and then even gets a few more words in a minute later before the Aragami finally eat her. How the hell do you talk that much with an open throat?

I don't have a lot of patience for that sort of thing.

 

[Russ T]

Also, calling Grimgar sexist pandering when handwaving GATE, the anime with rape and alluded pedophilia, is a bit strange.

Yo you must've missed it when I was yelled at in this thread for being very vocal about the shitty rape scene in GATE. I've also talked about the weird-ass 10 year old shit, too, although I think I never did on GAF, it was just with some friends. "Handwaving" my ass.

Fucking hell, dude. You don't know me. So I wouldn't make false accusations about me, if I were you. It makes you look the fool.

Calling it 'sexist pandering' reeks of sex negativity and is a rather regressive perspective considering Grimgar actually has some fairly fleshed out characters. Fanservice is dumb, sure, but it doesn't detract from the story itself.

Just because you tolerate it doesn't mean I'm not allowed to dislike it, and it doesn't mean it's not sexual objectification. And just because Grimgar has some good things doesn't mean it lacks bad things.

It's sexual objectification, plain and simple. It's all to serve the audience. The characters have no agency in their presentation*. They have no reason to shove their ass in the camera all the time. That's something the creators choose to do because they know people like asses shoved in their face. What part of the mage girl's character makes you think she'd want her boobs to be the focus of the camera? Was it in the first episode, when Ranta compares the girls' boob size and she gets extremely fucking uncomfortable? Is that what makes you think she wants people staring at her tits all day? Because unless that's what you think, then, oops, you've just confirmed that it is, indeed, sexual objectification. And if you do say you think that, well, to be frank, I won't believe you.

I dunno, man, I can't be teaching sexism 101 every time someone objects to me calling out a shitty thing. Like, this is ridiculous.

*With the exception of Barbara, whose character seems to embrace her tiny leather bra strap thing... But if you can tell me you think they didn't make her that way just because they like half-naked women, keeping a straight face, no laughing? I'll buy you lots of beers, because you're pretty good at lying.

 

[Line_HTX]

Only 185 posts until a new thread..

Patience. We're not exactly at the end yet.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Yeah that rape scene on gate was uncomfortable as fuck. Especially more when you learn the bunny girl has some weird relationship with her subordinates too

Edit: not to say any rape scene isn't uncomfortable, but I wasnt expecting it in this glorious Japan show.

 

[Hellwarden]

Oh, one thing I forgot to mention from God Eater 10: it has one of the more absurd over-long dying person monologues I've ever seen.

Spoiler stuff

I don't have a lot of patience for that sort of thing.

Man, that's some Assassin's Creed logic right there.

 

[ibyea]

Man, that's some Assassin's Creed logic right there.

XD

 

[Russ T]

Yeah that rape scene on gate was uncomfortable as fuck. Especially more when you learn the bunny girl has some weird relationship with her subordinates too

Edit: not to say any rape scene isn't uncomfortable, but I wasnt expecting it in this glorious Japan show.

It certainly came out of nowhere! Luckily we're now back to ridiculous nonsense and I can put that scene behind me.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

You guys seriously wasting time for try convince each others about fanservice, it's basically personal thing, you like it then you like it, you don't like it then you don't like it, nothing more.

 

[Russ T]

I used to think like that. Then I learned a little more about the world and how society works. I'm not that ignorant anymore.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

To become annoying?

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

hey guys if possible i'd like some recommendations. it's been a while since i watched a full series and i feel like seeing what's out there. here's what i like: good animation, very little filler, and minimal fanservice. if it's a good manga i'm already reading it and won't bother watching.

last show i watched was one punch man, before that gurren lagann. other favorites are gits: sac/2nd gig, full metal panic, boogiepop phantom, escaflowne, full metal alchemist.

thanks in advance.

Here are some ideas:

Code:Breaker
Concrete Revolutio
Dennou Coil
Eccentric Family
Garo the Animation
Haikyuu
Hyouka
Kagewani
Miss Hokusai
Mushishi (first season + Zoku Sho)
Saint Young Men
Shashinkan
Sound Euphonium
Yona of the Dawn

 

[Line_HTX]

I'm still waiting for Kuribayashi or Rory Mercury to threaten that rabbit in a Jack Bauer way.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

It's sexual objectification, plain and simple. It's all to serve the audience. The characters have no agency in their presentation*. They have no reason to shove their ass in the camera all the time. That's something the creators choose to do because they know people like asses shoved in their face. What part of the mage girl's character makes you think she'd want her boobs to be the focus of the camera? Was it in the first episode, when Ranta compares the girls' boob size and she gets extremely fucking uncomfortable? Is that what makes you think she wants people staring at her tits all day? Because unless that's what you think, then, oops, you've just confirmed that it is, indeed, sexual objectification. And if you do say you think that, well, to be frank, I won't believe you.

We dont really know much about these characters or how they were preFantasyWorld or anything else deeply about them. Theres been series where the most timid looking character ended up being the must lewd character IRL.

 

[Russ T]

To become annoying?

No, the idea is that you would grow up and learn about the way society oppresses people. I hope you don't become annoying! That would be a shame.

 

[Chindogg]

Boy I'm awfully glad Russ T's here to yell at us from his ivory tower and that being ok with any form of sexuality is somehow oppression.

Looking forward to his lectures of fujoshi fanservice when All Out releases next season.

The fact that you keep assume people disagree with you means not grown up is pretty low.

Pretty much if you're not heinously offended by seeing an animated butt shot you're an uncultured swine that wishes that women be subservient to men.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

No, the idea is that you would grow up and learn about the way society oppresses people. I hope you don't become annoying! That would be a shame.

The fact that you keep assume people disagree with you means not grown up is pretty low.

 

[Russ T]

Boy I'm awfully glad Russ T's here to yell at us from his ivory tower and that being ok with any form of sexuality is somehow oppression.

Looking forward to his lectures of fujoshi fanservice when All Out releases next season.

You're really good at intentionally misinterpreting the things I say. It's impressive. But I wish you would engage sincerely, rather than maliciously.

EDIT:

Pretty much if you're not heinously offended by seeing an animated butt shot you're an uncultured swine that wishes that women be subservient to men.

lol case in point

you wanna build up that strawman a little more? or are you content with this fictional representation of me?

The fact that you keep assume people disagree with you means not grown up is pretty low.

What, are you serious? People are explicitly telling me they disagree with me. I'm not assuming anything. I'm responding directly to what they're saying. Like Chindogg up there, he insisted I was sex negative because I hate sexuality. Which I don't. I mean I watch porn multiple times a week.

 

[names2hard4you]

Thats a surprise. There was a kid in mine, he was laughing so much. Same for me.

No more Shakira singing in movies please.

More and more I go to these animation movies and I see less kids, which is kind of sad. I remember loving going to the movies with family or friends. A trailer for the new Dory movie came up and everyone in the room was looking at the screen with a smile on their face. And yeah I agree, no more Shakira please and thank you.

Grimgar 09

Heh, Shihoru feeding the birds would have had less meaning had we not known who back then did the same. I liked the backgrounds when Haruhiro was exploring the town. The scene of him fighting against the teacher, with beatboxing in the background was strange lol.

 

[duckroll]

PSA: If you watch too much anime you become like me. Sick and dying.

 

[Chindogg]

You're really good at intentionally misinterpreting the things I say. It's impressive. But I wish you would engage sincerely, rather than maliciously.

You called others ignorant and that you're 'teaching sexism 101.' You come off like you're some evolved being passing judgement across everything you don't like. Then when someone calls you on it you decide to insult and lecture others on how you're right and everyone else is ignorant.

Don't demand others to engage sincerely when you're the first one pulling the insults out.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

PSA: If you watch too much anime you become like me. Sick and dying.

Ashes to Ashes

Bones to bones

 

[names2hard4you]

Y'all need some Hyouka in your lives!!! Let its pureness heal your souls and forgive your sins.

 

[duckroll]

Ashes to Ashes

Bones to bones

Did someone say BONES????

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

PSA: If you watch too much anime you become like me. Sick and dying.

You should watch some Haikyuu. I've been feeling ill myself for a while, but I watched Haikyuu this morning and I'm feeling much better today!!

 

[Russ T]

You called others ignorant and that you're 'teaching sexism 101.' You come off like you're some evolved being passing judgement across everything you don't like. Then when someone calls you on it you decide to insult and lecture others on how you're right and everyone else is ignorant.

Don't demand others to engage sincerely when you're the first one pulling the insults out.

I never insulted you or called anyone ignorant. I said I became less ignorant.

And, to be frank, you are acting like you've never heard the word sexism before. Like you reacted so violently at the mere suggestion that something was sexist.

Here's a tip for you: liking sex or sexy things doesn't make you a bad person. I've never once said or even implied otherwise. I've only ever judged the works, not the people enjoying them. The fact that you think I have judged you in some way just kinda tells me you're being hyper-defensive because the very conversation makes you uncomfortable. And that's okay! It makes me uncomfortable as hell to examine the things I enjoy and think about what they mean in the broader scope of society.

However! NOW I'm judging you. Congrats, it only took you consistently attacking me and being a complete and utter dick to me, but you got what you wanted. I'm judging you. Judge judge judge. JUDGEMENT. How's it feel, to be judged?

Christ. This is the first time I've run into a troll in this thread. Honestly thought it was troll-free. Guess I was wrong.

 

[nintendoman58]

Did someone say BONES????

Watch Majin Bone. It's a show with fantastic CG fights and it's about Bones.

Sounds right up you're alley!

 

[AquaWateria]

More and more I go to these animation movies and I see less kids, which is kind of sad. I remember loving going to the movies with family or friends. A trailer for the new Dory movie came up and everyone in the room was looking at the screen with a smile on their face. And yeah I agree, no more Shakira please and thank you.

What's up with the Shakira hate?

I can't believe this is a thing.

 

[names2hard4you]

You should watch some Haikyuu. I've been feeling ill myself for a while, but I watched Haikyuu this morning and I'm feeling much better today!!

Honestly that show works really well for motivation, not necessarily sickness in my case. At the end of a rough shift, or after a tough week at school, I watch an episode and feel extremely energized and ready to go back at it again. The character's energy and positivity is infectious.

 

[Chindogg]

Sorry everyone for bringing the bad juju in here. I'm just gonna use the block feature and move on.

More and more I go to these animation movies and I see less kids, which is kind of sad. I remember loving going to the movies with family or friends. A trailer for the new Dory movie came up and everyone in the room was looking at the screen with a smile on their face. And yeah I agree, no more Shakira please and thank you.

The showing of Zootopia I saw today was nothing but kids. As someone who can't deal with hyper kids in a movie theatre, it was not a good time.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

More and more I go to these animation movies and I see less kids, which is kind of sad. I remember loving going to the movies with family or friends. A trailer for the new Dory movie came up and everyone in the room was looking at the screen with a smile on their face. And yeah I agree, no more Shakira please and thank you.

You must go at odd times, I usually like saturday noon/1pm showings which sometimes have tons of kids, the most I had was with each Ice Ages (why someone had their creying toddlers ) and with each Transformers.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Did someone say BONES????

I could hear the sitcom audience laughter in my head.

 

[NaDannMaGoGo]

Pretty much if you're not heinously offended by seeing an animated butt shot you're an uncultured swine that wishes that women be subservient to men.

You know, hyperbolic arguments go nowhere.

Grimgar got some sexual fanservice going that's counterintuitive to the atmosphere and narrative it attempts, I think there's no doubt about it.

 

[Russ T]

Anyway after I wrote that last post I remembered there's an ignore feature on these forums. Now I don't have to see anything he says anymore.

Apologies to everyone else for having to see that trainwreck. Christ.

 

[nintendoman58]

Majin Bone - 41

Clip show episode which means I skimmed throughout the entire thing and only watched the new bits.

 

[duckroll]

You must go at odd times, I usually like saturday noon/1pm showings which sometimes have tons of kids, the most I had was with each Ice Ages (why someone had their creying toddlers ) and with each Transformers.

Had a crying baby during Interstellar in IMAX. Was super annoying.

 

[Puruzi]

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Had a crying baby during Interstellar in IMAX. Was super annoying.

Was he crying on the video message scene? Because if so I can't blame that baby

 

[names2hard4you]

You must go at odd times, I usually like saturday noon/1pm showings which sometimes have tons of kids, the most I had was with each Ice Ages (why someone had their creying toddlers ) and with each Transformers.

Maybe that's why. Around those times I'm either at work on the weekends, or at school during the weekdays. I usually go for the 9PM and later showings.

Had a crying baby during Interstellar in IMAX. Was super annoying.

As much as I love babies, theaters are definitely not the place for them. I had something like this happen to me at a planetarium, and it ruined the whole experience.

You know, hyperbolic arguments go nowhere.

Grimgar got some sexual fanservice going that's counterintuitive to the atmosphere and narrative it attempts, I think there's no doubt about it.

Yeah I like the show, but I wish that stuff wasn't there. Like I said, this episode is a great example. It was so blatantly obvious what they were doing with the teacher scene that it was embarrassing. The beatbox only made it worse. For every good thing the show does in one moment, the fan service and weird choice of music at times brings it down in others. It's a shame.

 

[Line_HTX]

Did someone say BONES????

*Cough*Sequels and final episodes*Cough*