Wishmaster92 speculates about what the PS4K and Xbox 12 can do graphically
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Sad Affleck
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Pretty much.
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CrackedNutz
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Unless Sony and Microsoft decide to put Nvidia 1080s in the consoles at the last minute.... not going to happen.
Sad Affleck
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This is something I've seen wondering about. As you said the PS4 has managed to pull ahead of the 750Ti probably due to developers getting the hang of the PS4 hardware and optimizing for it. Now with new machines right around the corner will developers continue to squeeze every bit of performance out of the XB1 and PS4 or will the focus on the new boxes? I suppose noone knows since iterative consoles are a first for the industry.
Bubba_Sparks
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I always felt like the Kite Demo from Epic is good example of what a generation of consoles built around a GTX 970 could achieve. It seriously looks a whole generation beyond what we a currently getting.
Here are the base specs for GTX 570
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/269/geforce-gtx-570
GTX 570 = 1.4 [Nv]TFLOPS, but one cannot compare Nvidia Flops to AMD Flops, in completely different architectures.
Besides it doesn't matter anyway because the PC that ran Deep Down had an Intel Core i7, which annihilates PS4's CPU.
'demos'?
In general, the PS4 and XB1 consoles sold at launch, sell today and will sell long after the other consoles have launched as budget alternatives. There's more to gaming than power
*EDIT* i thought you meant the hardware, my mistake. It was just pure hype and graphics power wars
Honestly, this is a question that no one can properly answer until the new consoles release. I believe devs will still optimize well for the current batch of consoles, but that largely depends on budget and time allocated to devs and the ease to create two different versions. The latter of which depends entirely if Sony and Microsoft make it easy for devs.
This.
OP, your examples are all highly-optimized tech demos meant to show off potential, not actuality.
Gemüsepizza
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Not sure why people are making fun of OP, I don't see anything too outrageous there tbh. Sure, developers will need to cut some corners here and there, and actual gameplay will probably not have extremely high image quality (compared to in game cutscenes). But I absolutely do expect to see higher quality effects.
OfTheOverflow
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Still salty about 1313, you just hhhaadd to bring it back up lol. I think people need to get their expectations in line. The difference isn't a new gen.
justgames7604
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I dont get it tho. People saying gtx titan like its worth a damn anymore. 6 amd tflops matches a gtx titan.
copelandmaster
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OT: Here are the Deep Down vids, for those who care. Saw that they were gone on gamersyde so I up'd them to mega.
tgs13_deepdown_720p60.mp4
tgs13_deepdown_2.mp4
tgs13_deepdown_lightarmor_1080p
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tgs13_deepdown_720p60.mp4
tgs13_deepdown_2.mp4
tgs13_deepdown_lightarmor_1080p
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Haint
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Relatively few did. The majority consensus was the consoles could never run what was on display in Agni, Samaritan, Deep Down, Etc..
aygomyownroad
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Deep Down will never hit that graphics even on the ps4k.
I don't know why people are expecting a massive leap in graphics for the PS4K, the graphics will be the same but faster frame rate/resolution.
The Scorpio is a bit different, until we see more details that could have better graphics but for the time being its all bullshoot style hype.
I don't know why people are expecting a massive leap in graphics for the PS4K, the graphics will be the same but faster frame rate/resolution.
The Scorpio is a bit different, until we see more details that could have better graphics but for the time being its all bullshoot style hype.
The question is why these demos were shown (esp. Deep Down) when it should be clear that the system it is advertised for will never be able to reach those graphics.
Possumowner
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I think some people's expectations of Neo being some sort of huge upgrade on the original need to be lowered abit,or your going to be very disappointed
Springfoot
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It's been over a decade since E3 2005's Killzone 2 and MotorStorm trailers set unrealistic expectations for what the PS3 could do, and here we are again.
Based on the leaked specs for the new half-step consoles, they may well be able to run some of those tech demos if they were developed into actual games, but the issue is that blowing up (already enormously expensive) AAA development costs by effectively branching every major release into two separate games isn't going to be feasible for most devs, nor is it realistic to expect. It's going to be about Ultra PC settings and VR until the next full-fledged PS5/XBNext launch, at least assuming MS doesn't simply psych everyone out and declare the Scorpio as the start of a new generation and drop XBone support and backwards compatibility requirements.
Sure, for the re-re-release of Uncharted 1/2/3, but not for current gen stuff. There's no way their $400-600 box is going to double the framerate (which actually requires more than twice the horsepower) and quadruple the resolution of titles like Uncharted 4.
Sad Affleck
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new console reveal and fanbase delusion
Haha, well you can't blame it all on the fanbase
It was publishers that created unrealistic tech demos and it was console makers that talked about supercharged architectures and the power of the cloud.Your average GAF'er has no basic grasp of game graphics.
Every generation the same misinformation and hopeless delusion arises as gamers eat the PR bullshit with a smile on their faces.
You don't have to buy the snake oil.
Every generation the same misinformation and hopeless delusion arises as gamers eat the PR bullshit with a smile on their faces.
Haha, well you can't blame it all on the fanbase
You don't have to buy the snake oil.
Dick Justice
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Top of the line GPUs struggle to hit 60fps at 4K in modern games.
Yeah I doubt it.
It's one thing to make a short animation that looks like that and it's another thing to build an entire game like that. Even if the animation was real time
Plus neither Sony or Microsoft seem to be willing to just abandon their current user base (third parties even less so) so they have to continue to make games that can easliy be scaled back to current consoles.
You should be expecting something like this from the Neo:
At 1080p and with good frame rate. And then a 900P Ps4 version dropping below 30fps during thaat scene
To all the guys in the thread saying it's not possible on PS4 Neo....
This was a multiplayer playable demo on ps4 you fools -___- We all watched it live. It was already super downgraded compared the the initial target render. There is not even a thing in this gif that lets you actually determine how are the graphics, the assets etc... You're ridiculous guys.
I swear i always see poeple on GAF acting like this gif was part of the bullshit video, when it was a playable demo, that's pathetic.
TheSpoiler
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Okay guys here are some real comparison pictures.
PS4 Bloodborne
PS4 NEO
PS4 Bloodborne
PS4 NEO
Why change when it works? Even on GAF which should tell us something.
shark sandwich
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I predict PS4 Neo will be able to handle anisotropic filtering
sorry
Oh come on, we all know from armchair devs on GAF that this is totally the fault of devs - they just forget about it every now and then.
Yautja_Warrior
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I wouldn't expect a massive upgrade in graphics unless they allow for exclusive games down the line. That is the only way they can take full advantage of the more powerful hardware because developers have to make all games work on the base console too.
Most of that extra power will just be used on things like AA, AF, Framerate and Resolution, not a bad thing of course but it will probably be more like comparing a PC game running on Medium settings to Ultra settings, a nice difference but not something that looks like a totally different game.
Most of that extra power will just be used on things like AA, AF, Framerate and Resolution, not a bad thing of course but it will probably be more like comparing a PC game running on Medium settings to Ultra settings, a nice difference but not something that looks like a totally different game.
Welcome to PC ports of all time... I mean, what do you expect? Certain things in gaming cost certain amount of computing time. If you see that or think that it is worth it is up to you but don't expect magical things from something that has to render in real time.
Don't exaggerate, PS5 will surpass DD and SW, actually they are not that much better looking than some parts in U4.
Only Square's demo look like something that next gen won't handle, at least not on a big scale.
martino
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Haha, well you can't blame it all on the fanbase
in their defence initial specs of current console must have been stronger then...
this is why we got a lot of reveal /early developped games at 900p)
UnforgivenTwin
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Personally,I just want the console to hit a consistent 1080p 60fps. That's more important to me than pretty graphics.
So fitting lol.new console reveal and fanbase delusion
I'll be happy if the exclusives I want to play (Detroid - I keep forgetting about it lol; Horizon) would receive a bump to 60fps but I doubt it.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Yeah I doubt it.
It's one thing to make a short animation that looks like that and it's another thing to build an entire game like that. Even if the animation was real time
Plus neither Sony or Microsoft seem to be willing to just abandon their current user base (third parties even less so) so they have to continue to make games that can easliy be scaled back to current consoles.
You should be expecting something like this from the Neo:
At 1080p and with good frame rate. And then a 900P Ps4 version dropping below 30fps during thaat scene
Lol
Come on...