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Witcher 3 PC Performance Thread
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Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
Never understood gameworks as it is, Is it all physx based effects and assets or something totally different and unrelated? I ask this because if adding an older or less powerful card than my 980 I have laying around to dump physx on in the driver defaults the gamesworks effects onto that card other than my 980 or 5960x then I have reason to play around with it and see what extra FPS can be squeezed out of gamworks games if gamesworks is really nothing more than physx framework with extensions...especially at the higher resolutions. this could even result in effect means to AMD users.
Anyone have any further insight on exactly what gamesworks is, I did my research and it all came back rather confusing and rather a giant locked black box of mystery that now has physx part of it but I dont know if I should read it as physx is now a base framework of many awesome eye candy goodies...now known as gamworks.
Anyone have any further insight on exactly what gamesworks is, I did my research and it all came back rather confusing and rather a giant locked black box of mystery that now has physx part of it but I dont know if I should read it as physx is now a base framework of many awesome eye candy goodies...now known as gamworks.
footfunghi
Member
I'm using almost the same setup, please be sure to post your experience because i will have to wait for my copy to arrive first, which will take 5-10 days longer ;_;
ChasingComets
Member
Must be nice having all that disposable cash. Incidentally, this is the same setup I've been running for a couple of years now (if you're talking the gtx680m); hope against hope I can still get to run medium-high settings at a decent frame rate.
I probably should get it on my ps4 with arguably better overall performance compared to my rig, but PC version being so much cheaper and importing my saves tipped the scales the other way.
Pop
Member
You'll be fine
I would like to know this to, as i have just upgraded from a 670 to a 970. Is it worth using the 670 as a dedicated physx card. Will it improve performance by a decent amount.
Eduardboon
Member
Meh hair works looks like monsters inc and will no doubt destroy my 970. Destruction looks very cool on the other hand. So guess it's gonna be long nights of tinkering settings for dat 60fps.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
I'll let you know once j figure out if gameworks is just one massive physx package because if it is Id imagine it would help much more than it used to with just basic physx. because they don't help in physx games like batman or borderlands 2. I just need someone to answer my above question then I'll run a bunch of benches lucky enough I have a 670 I can run as a dedicated physx card too. from my readings though it's maxwell biased....
solokazama
Banned
Hm, shouldnt we with R9 290 be fine? U know PS4 and XONE has AMD gpus (weak ones) , i know api gonna be bootleg here but still its r9 290
Static Jak
Member
I'm not really interested in Hairworks but I really hope HBAO+ isn't a big framerate killer because it always makes a huge difference for me.
I await to see what your conclusions are. Although having a 670 running as a physx card is going to up my power consumption by a large amount
abracadaver
Member
is there a video of the physx destruction?
This game does not support the use of a secondary dedicated Physx card. It is all rolled into one package that can only run on the primary GPU along with the rest of the game.
There is a little bit of it in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md4Hmgtl8q0
There are snippets of it in the Nvidia promo video that was released the other week.
Ah okay thanks for the heads up.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
you can't force it to a secondary Nvidia card in drivers like usual, think you may be wrong in that, because you can default it to CPU it has to be able to for AMDs sake. if gamesworks is nothing more than a physx platform then the calculations can be forced off to other hardware beit other Nvidia or cpu hardware.
Static Jak
Member
Anyone have screenshots of the settings menu?
Deaf Spacker
Memb
I'll be okay with two 4GB 680's won't I?
Dictator93
Member
Of course.
I am not sure what you mean. The Gameworks effects in this game will not work if you have an AMD GPU, regardless of your CPU.
Unlike older titles that supported Physx, you cannot force it to run on your 670 or CPU for this game because the in-game settings override the settings in the driver you are talking about.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
drivers override the software silly goose if you choose the physx calculation to take place in the driver (set of hardware that is compatable) they will take place there. gamesworks effects will work on all hardware http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-release-the-witcher-3-game-ready-driver/
being able to force physx calculations isn't a problem
Dictator93
Member
All gameworks fx in TW3 are vendor agnostic. That does not mean they will run well though.
This game is using CPU physx (for NV and AMD) and hairworks is done purely on the GPU. No CPU offloading or anything.
Will be checking out this thread during today and release, i will see what your findings are once you have the game.
Only 11hrs to go
ShyGuy0504
Member
Wow my pc is not even meeting minimum requirements these days.
I really need to upgrade.
I really need to upgrade.
Deaf Spacker
Memb
Good to hear, thanks.
The Cowboy
Member
Some benchmarks.
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/The-Witcher-3-PC-237266/Specials/Grafikkarten-Benchmarks-1159196/
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/The-Witcher-3-PC-237266/Specials/Grafikkarten-Benchmarks-1159196/
Orange is average, blue is minimum.
I have a bad feeling AMD owners are going to get the short end of the stick for this one
I will never understand this kind of post xD
You'll be fine, both of you.
Sounds like a SLI issue, that will probably be addressed soon. 780 SLI vastly outperforms a single 980 and we already know that card is perfectly capable of running the game at 1080/60.
I'm sure i'm reading this wrong but are you suggesting that an "old preview" is better optimized than the final version with two patches and dedicated drivers?
There's obviously something wrong with these benchmarks, possibly the wrote the resolution wrong and the tests are at 1440p?
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
so hair works calculations would in theory be offloaded onto the chosen physx medium that's what I'm getting at...is gameworks just physx framework with extensions...
Interesting to see that even without a specific driver for the game, AMD cards seem to be performing fine.
Ok. I may be wrong, but the way I understand it is that Hairworks is direct compute based, so it uses your primary GPU, not the one you dedicate to Physx in the drivers. Other basic Physx effects just run on your CPU.
Grechy34
Member
I wouldn't call it indisposable cash, haha. I've probably been a little careless and thankfully am still at home which I guess has helped. What I find and would recommend if you can keep it safe - credit. I bought my consoles/PC one by one on credit and always paid them off slowly as I got paid - cash flow is the key I found. Always keeping it to what you can afford. Once I move into my place most of the fun ends.
I'd actually say the 680GTX would outperform the PS4. Which mind you absolutely blows my mind until this day. I played AC: Unity on high settings at 1080P at about 35-40FPS on that thing (HBAO, Bloom turned off) so I would say you will be fine with the Witcher 3 on medium @ 1080P if you knock down a few fancy settings. The 4GB on that card really helps.
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
ah now we're on getting on the same page this info I like! much appreciated I will dive deep with this info
gameworks is just one giant mystery to me I want to see its internals so bad...sounds dirty
SmartWaffles
Member
You should be able to maintain high 40s-60 on High, might be able to shoot for mostly constant 60 with some tweaks.
DeFiBkIlLeR
Banned
Looking at the other benchmarks, my 970 SLI rig should be good for 4K locked @ 30fps.
Not bad I suppose.
Not bad I suppose.
Why aren't they using a GTX 980 instead of Titan X? plus if the Titan X gets those fps then i guess the GTX 980, which is about 30% slower, won't hit 60fps after all! i'm doomed to 30fps...
Dictator93
Member
Hairworks runs on the GPU only but does not use GPU physX, thre is no offloading in the case that a non-CUDA enabled GPU is found.
It is a rather low clocked titan x actually. 1150 (mine hits 1400 with OC, and 1200 default)
Those benchmarks are on Ultra/Max with tons of performance killers activated. You'll most likely be able to turn down a few settings, lose next to nothing in fidelity and reach that 60 fps.
No way.
Dictator93
Member
Or, play it on the recommended High settings with a few ultra sliders.
THey mention how the latest version of the game has a high, very high, and ultra setting. So they added one more Cvar grouping. High is consoles, very high is presumably the previous ultra, and ultra is the new ultra (über?)
Saintruski
Unconfirmed Member
way ahead of you I got it figured out but thanks...Nvidias strategy officially has me confused...in terms if their proprietary use and their marketing strategies....just go open standard and dnt cripple for heavens sake.
so now they are semi open to everyone but are severely crippling AMD and their older stock
Bl@de
Member
Yeah but the question is ... What fps do you get at high ... I need 60^^
Guille4000
Neo Member
the benchmark is using HBAO+ and the hairworks I think, you can see it at the top.
They say they're using the newest nVidia driver and "The Witcher 3 v1.02, ('semi-final' review build)." I have no idea what the Day 1 patch is going to be (v1.03?), but thats what they're using.