Static Jak
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Is that whats really causing it? Why with these drivers all of a sudden?
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Witcher 3 PC Performance Thread
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Is that whats really causing it? Why with these drivers all of a sudden?
billmcdougal
Member
Thanks for all the tips, guys.
I went to switch aa to fxaa, but since i have ati, i have to force it through radeonpro i think.
It doesn't just have fxaa off and on though. I've got like low, med, high, etc.
I guess I'll try medium?
Also don't know how to adjust the lod bias I've seen referenced in relation to this.
I went to switch aa to fxaa, but since i have ati, i have to force it through radeonpro i think.
It doesn't just have fxaa off and on though. I've got like low, med, high, etc.
I guess I'll try medium?
Also don't know how to adjust the lod bias I've seen referenced in relation to this.
RickyRozay
Member
Hmm ok I'll give it a try. Anyone else notice a spike in TDP% while playing this? I had to drop my 970 back down to stock clocks since it was going over my 110% limit. Didn't get any crashes or notice any throttling but still backed off.
I wonder if it would go down if I locked the fps to 60 at 60hz instead of 144hz. Games like GTA 5 barely break 100% TDP.
Windom Earle
Member
This is exactly my problem.
Coming off Bloodborne it is really difficult to accept the combat in this game...
A lot of crashes are game engine related as well
Im running the game on a super low end PC with literally everything set to low or off and ive still had 3 crashes in 7 hours or so of game time
Sorry thought that would have been obvious. It's better because:
- Keeps all of your own tweaks in one file/place so easier to keep track of what you have changed.
- Means you are not editing the games own config files in the games install directory (which can be lost/overwritten if game is re-installed, updated by Steam etc).
Releasing LB should quit the menu, having to press A sucks.
Its a little bit blurrier to me and doesn't do as well with stuff like chain mail but I get better performance and possible less crashing with it.
KillerMan91
Member
Thanks ! Helped for me too (at least for now). Weeeird bug.
Static Jak
Member
Yeah, that's how Witcher 2 did it and it was a lot smoother.
CarbonFire
Member
Sucks on KBAM too. You have to press mouse 1 to select a spell to get out of the menu, but if you've already got the spell you want selected, you have to hit TAB again to back out. Very Unintuitive.
It was hold and release method in W2, not sure why they'd move to this inferior system here. It's supposed to be a "quick" access menu, not a ploughing radial minigame.
On my Geforce setting max prerendered frames to 1 seems to remove most of the judder at 60fps. Try it with AMD's equivalent, Flip Queue Size.
Prophet Steve
Member
Hmn, I really like HBAO+ and thought it wouldn't cost much performance, but I'll try those out. Still planning on switching the settings around a fair bit anyway.
Was suffering from crashes every 2-5 minutes regardless of what setting I had. I messed with this for 7+ hours and I think I finally got it stable. Havn't had a crash for 2+ hours.
Anyway hopefully this info helps some of you guys.
I have a GTX 760. I used the clean installation option and I rolled back my driver to: GeForce 341.44. In the Nvidia control panel under power management I set prefer maximum performance, also I turned threaded optimization on.
I unplugged my second monitor. Adjusted the computer for "best performance." in performance options.
In the Witcher 3 graphics options I have it set to fullscreen and the FPS slider is set to unlimited.
Lastly I have this GTX 760: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133498 It comes factory overclocked. So what I did was use MSI Afterburner and for my core clock and my memory clock I slid both sliders to -40 and hit apply.
After all this bullshit, I finally have been stable for 2+ hours. Good luck guys.
Anyway hopefully this info helps some of you guys.
I have a GTX 760. I used the clean installation option and I rolled back my driver to: GeForce 341.44. In the Nvidia control panel under power management I set prefer maximum performance, also I turned threaded optimization on.
I unplugged my second monitor. Adjusted the computer for "best performance." in performance options.
In the Witcher 3 graphics options I have it set to fullscreen and the FPS slider is set to unlimited.
Lastly I have this GTX 760: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133498 It comes factory overclocked. So what I did was use MSI Afterburner and for my core clock and my memory clock I slid both sliders to -40 and hit apply.
After all this bullshit, I finally have been stable for 2+ hours. Good luck guys.
s_mirage
Member
If you're using EVGA Precision X or similar, turn it off. I don't know if it's something peculiar to my system, a problem with the program, or a problem with recent drivers, but lately I'm finding Precision to be causing issues in quite a lot of software. That includes this game freezing as described. It's not my overclock either, I can apply that just fine as long as Precision is then shut down.
MrRoflWaffles
Member
SSAO vs HBAO+.
See if you can tell which is which.
Side by side 50/50 split below.. but which is which? Personally I find the difference to not be worth the fps so I'm going with SSAO atm
Prophet Steve
Member
Night scenes aren't really good comparisons for this. I'd say the second one though (HBAO+).
Seriously guys just try it. Its not that taxing on your computers. I am very happy with my outdated card.
The first one is SSAO. Weird halo around his legs.
Definitely. Also the way game requires your viewpoint to face things so you can loot them (or do any action) is really annoying. Jumping on the horse is rather difficult at times. It's such a far cry from Red Dead Redemption's ease. I gotta say that despite the slight movement lag, the GTA/RDR control system works really well.
I really hope they listen to feedback and keep patching the game.
Am I the only one who has the game running perfectly? Sure, I got plenty of hardware (970 SLI, 16 GB RAM, SSD, 4.5 GHz CPU...) but at 1440p I have yet to experience any hitches or crashes whatsoever with everything on max and Hairworks on.
Would this be any different than the analogue stick sensitivity setting in the options menu?
First one is SSAO, the halo around his legs gave that away.
Static Jak
Member
Ugh, ran fine all day, took a break for 2 hours, come back and it decides to keep crashing.
Darkstorne
Member
HABO+ isn't that big of a performance drain. The biggest culprits are Hairworks, foliage distance, and shadow quality.
Prophet Steve
Member
I'm pretty sure I had all of those on a setting lower and had HBAO+ on and still would not reach 60, but I'll try things again.
Latvian Hitman
Member
I haven't had any crashes or technical issues. Been really good to me so far a brand new game. I'm on a 4930K/TitanX.
I modeled my settings after yours and also used Adaptive Vsync and just tried it out of a little during my lunch break and I was getting steady framerates in the 50's to 60's above 60 mostly, I even turned up a few things like Shadows and some post-processing effects. I'll test it out more tonight but hopefully this means that majority of my issues have been sorted out. Thanks again!
I reverted back to an older NVIDIA driver and I think I've found an optimal setup for 1080p30FPS for the GTX 660. I need to do some tests in certain areas, but from what I can tell, FPS drops only whenever I go near fire.
It's a mix of high+ultra settings + low foliage distance. I'll describe it later. "Full" report will be on the first page soon.
It's a mix of high+ultra settings + low foliage distance. I'll describe it later. "Full" report will be on the first page soon.
franbatista123
Member
New users should pretty much do two things when configuring the graphics:
1. Turn off Hairworks (completely)
2. Remove the framerate cap (Unlimited)
They are useless and can cause problems.
1. Turn off Hairworks (completely)
2. Remove the framerate cap (Unlimited)
They are useless and can cause problems.
Prophet Steve
Member
Alright, yeah. I think at first I didn't change the foilage distance just the grass density. Now it's mostly 60 fps with a drops but I'll turn down something.
Might also be that my GPU is overclocked too much. It already couldn't seem to handle overclocks to well when I tried and I just noticed a graphics artifact for a moment. I'll see what happens when I clock it down a notch.
bee
Member
managing to play 4k (gsync), hairworks (aa level tweak), mixture of settings on a single titan x (oc), runs mainly 40-45fps, dropped to 35fps with 4 hairworks wolves on screen, zero crashes so far on gta drivers
i only have one issue, anyway to get rid of the banding on the sun shafts at 4k??
i only have one issue, anyway to get rid of the banding on the sun shafts at 4k??
Maybe, just maybe i managed to fix the crashes problem, yesterday i had 3 crashes in about two hours, today none in three hours, i'm on a GTX 980 and latest drivers, game maxed out with HairWorks on and 30fps cap, here what i did:
1) Disabled Vsync, but i kept the frame rate capped to 30 and all the others video settings as they were before
2) Disinstalled Nvidia GeForce Experience(useless software for me)
3)Set "prefer maximum performance" in "Power Management Mode" from Nvidia panel settings
4) Played without overclock
Now i don't know which one did the trick(assuming that i really fixed it and wasn't just lucky for 3 hours straight), but i guess it is worth to try them all, in my next session i'll just re-apply the overclock on my GTX 980 and see what happens.
By the way, without crash the game is awesome in every aspect, i'm loving it so far.
1) Disabled Vsync, but i kept the frame rate capped to 30 and all the others video settings as they were before
2) Disinstalled Nvidia GeForce Experience(useless software for me)
3)Set "prefer maximum performance" in "Power Management Mode" from Nvidia panel settings
4) Played without overclock
Now i don't know which one did the trick(assuming that i really fixed it and wasn't just lucky for 3 hours straight), but i guess it is worth to try them all, in my next session i'll just re-apply the overclock on my GTX 980 and see what happens.
By the way, without crash the game is awesome in every aspect, i'm loving it so far.
So, this is more curiosity then anything, and I'm probably overlooking some major reason that'll make me look stupid....but why is it the only two options available for locking FPS are 30 and 60?
I'm getting 55-60 with occasional drops to 45 so I guess i'm wondering why I couldn't lock to something in around there. Is this some programming voodoo that's too much of a pain to implement? Or just something that doesn't provide value to most people?
I'm getting 55-60 with occasional drops to 45 so I guess i'm wondering why I couldn't lock to something in around there. Is this some programming voodoo that's too much of a pain to implement? Or just something that doesn't provide value to most people?
The framerate cap is certainly not useless. For some people, myself included, a stable framerate is crucial to avoid motion sickness.
WIth that said, I recommend limiting the framerate with an outside utility rather than the built-in one, such as RTSS or nVidia's driver option.
ScepticMatt
Member
If nothing else helps, you can overclock with NvidiaInspector.
I did a 135 MHz core overclock (which is the maximum), set refresh rate to 50 Hz instead of 60,
and used RTSS to limit fps to 25 in 800x600 borderless windowed mode.
jacksepticeye
Member
I talked about his in the OT and got ignored. I don't like the animations or feel of Geralt himself sometimes. I never feel like I'm fully in control of him and have fallen off little cliff edges and died cos he didn't run the direction I wanted. Like he does a little running half circle to turn around instead of just running the opposite direction, hard explain.
I also don't like the combat at times, feels like each sword swing is sort of different or it doesn't happen immediately and I'm at the mercy of Geralt's movements. After coming out of like a hundred hours of Bloodborne though I guess anything would feel clumsy.
Still really like it though so I don't want to come off rambly or pessimistic
MrRoflWaffles
Member
No problem! Any idea what was causing you to have such big drops before changing your settings?
And shadow quality makes no noticeable difference from medium to ultra. At least none that I've seen, and the Nvidia tweak guides suggests the same.
jacksepticeye
Member
Yeah shadows seem to be almost identical between medium,high and ultra. At least not enough for the performance difference
Rig:
i5 - 3570 @3.4ghz can boost to 3.8
16gb of ram
GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+ 4gb(lol)
Right now at 1080p I'm running almost everything on Ultra minus Hairworks, Shadow Quality, and Foliage distance. Getting a constant 55-60fps average, but for the most part its locked at 60 with the frame limiter. Sometimes weather effects can drop frames. Mainly when there is a storm. usually drops to about 56 in that so nothing too bad.
Haven't tried unlimited framerate. Does that really do anything even with v sync enabled?
Found a nice stable point in overclocking my card to keep the temp at 65C. So far the game has been running great other than random crashes like other people. Does anyone get crashes in cutscenes? Or does the game just randomly minimize to the desktop?
i5 - 3570 @3.4ghz can boost to 3.8
16gb of ram
GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0+ 4gb(lol)
Right now at 1080p I'm running almost everything on Ultra minus Hairworks, Shadow Quality, and Foliage distance. Getting a constant 55-60fps average, but for the most part its locked at 60 with the frame limiter. Sometimes weather effects can drop frames. Mainly when there is a storm. usually drops to about 56 in that so nothing too bad.
Haven't tried unlimited framerate. Does that really do anything even with v sync enabled?
Found a nice stable point in overclocking my card to keep the temp at 65C. So far the game has been running great other than random crashes like other people. Does anyone get crashes in cutscenes? Or does the game just randomly minimize to the desktop?
ScepticMatt
Member
You can lock it at wherever you want in the user.settings file (i.e. LimitFPS=30).
The best way - according to Durante - is to use borderless windowed mode, set it to unlimited in game and use RTSS to limit the frame rate instead
But remember that unless you have a A/F/GSync monitor, you should always set it to an integer fraction of your monitors refresh rate
e.g. 30/40/60/120 for a 120Hz monitor, 25/50 for a 50Hz monitor
SirMossyBloke
Member
God dammit. Had my third crash reading something in the inventory. Thought this shit had stopped since I turned off my GPU over clock.
LordAmused
Member
I limited it with NCP and haven't had a crash in 2 hours.
Ah, that makes much more sense, thanks!
Prophet Steve
Member
Refresh rates. Your monitor likely refreshes with 60 Hz. So it can show 60 frames per second. 30 is easy then too, just have an image twice. Somewhere in between gets difficult and you need to either have some double frame causing stuttering, or have the frames sort of merge together which is screen tearing.
G-Sync helps with that by having a dynamic refresh rate.
I think that is what he means. Just turn off the ingame one and if you need one use an external program to do it.
