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[Ont]

What's the point of selling X1 or any other console? There are still going to be games that will be exclusive to that platform.

I have newly upgraded PC but I am often choosing to play Xbox One versions of certain games because my friends are on X1.

Every console I have sold in my life, was a mistake.

 

[Zedox]

What's the point of selling X1 or any other console? There are still going to be games that will be exclusive to that platform.

I have newly upgraded PC but I am often choosing to play Xbox One versions of certain games because my friends are on X1.

Every console I have sold in my life, was a mistake.

Well, you technically will be able to still play with those friends from your PC (if the game uses Xbox Live). Something that people are forgetting is that 3rd party games that people enjoy on the console aren't necessarily coming to Windows 10 Store too. So you won't have that same experience of playing "Madden" or something like that with your Xbox Live Friends. That's why people were mentioning that exclusives aren't the bread and butter of everything. 3rd party games take a huge of people's collection.

 

[GHG]

I never said playing games on pc reminds me of work first off.. What I said was trying to say was that after having to be glued to a terminal at work for 8hrs sometimes (especially towards the end of the week the last thing I want to do is use my my gaming computer/PC for an additional few hours to game as I will not enjoy it as much vs using it on the weekends or after I feel refreshed.

As for owning a gaming PC, there are still pc exclusive games Like Star Citizen, Natural Selection among other things that are better played with a keyboard and Mouse. And yes certain games, especially FPS games are played better on PC especially if I can max out the graphical settings. Not to mention that I do have friends who live in other parts of the world that I game with who do not have a console at all. And I have backlog collections of other games from years ago that are only available on my pc. And PCs are the only platforms that can support flight sticks for the moment.

As for me not wanting to have my gaming pc and rig by my TV entertainment system in would result in my potentially monopolizing the home media area in my house. I own 2 XB1's (one for me and my fiance' so that she can game when she feels like it and it also acts as a spare for when my brother comes over.) I have one system connected to the tv, (bedroom) the second XB connected to a $200 27in monitor in a spare room with a couch and another area that contains my gaming PC (and another monitor).

And your comment "not actually that great a deal considering you will be able to get the game cheaper from places other than the xbox one store over the coming months" makes no sense here as you are getting the PC version of the game and the console version of the game day one for ONE price $60. What if I do not want to play the game in a few months? Many people here on gaf, myself included have been double dipping on games when they eventually release on PC for the increased graphical fidelity after the game has been out for more than a year. Now we are getting that double dip for free. That my friend is an amazing deal and the way its looking the game may not release on steam or GOG. And considering how digital games have been always priced higher than physical game deals the fact that you are having the potential tp play on two platforms, PC and console makes it a deal.

The console space has always catered to an affordable gaming platform at a fraction of the cost of a gaming PC. Between buying an OS, Monitor and other peripherals for a gaming pc (not talking about an AMD FX6300 CPU gaming rig either) will run you on average a solid $700 if you want a decent performing machine. And that's decent and not great. Thus consoles are amazing for their low cost, low maintenance and hassle free upkeep that's very portable.

And getting an alan wake game for free is not a major selling point, but an added bonus as I have collections of games on both PC and Console.

So if you own an xbox one and a gaming PC and are complaining about the game releasing on windows 10 pc and now saying that you have no use for your xbox, just seems ridiculous to me, as an intelligent person IMO does not just buy a $300+ system for just one game. And for the foreseeable future you will probably be able to own many more games for both platforms for one price and possibly day one if MS continues with this cross play feature.

So how do gamers who love both xbox and PC platforms think this is not an awesome deal/idea?

Well I bought my Xbox One for Forza and in part, for upcoming games like QB and Scalebound. If you put it that way maybe I'm not an intelligent person because I should have seen this coming. If they put Forza on the PC as well then I 100% should not have bought the console considering the fact that I treat my PC very much like a gaming console anyway. If you can't understand why people who own both an Xbox one and a gaming PC might be a bit annoyed about this then I don't know what to tell you. Simply put, if I had known this was going to happen I likely wouldn't have bought the Xbox one in the first place.

As for this "deal", it's not a great deal for those of us who will only ever play the game on the PC. Double dipping happens in most cases when the PC game is released at a later date than the console version. In this case both versions are releasing on the same day and date so it's really not a relevant point. I have no desire to ever play this game on the Xbox one when I know I can play the game sitting from exactly the same spot with the same controller in superior quality. Therefore it makes the deal a bad one from my perspective since I only need the PC version which I will be able to get cheaper than if I buy this amazing "deal" on the Xbox one store.

If you can find a use for the deal then good for you. It seems like you are pretty bought into their ecosystem so more power to you I guess, but don't act like everyone who owns both a gaming PC and an Xbox one should be overawed by this deal. A lot of us just care about playing the games we want, the way we want and at the best quality possible. I couldn't give two hoots about all the cross play stuff and "free" double dipping when I have my gaming PC and Xbox One both sat next to each other under the TV.

 

[Black Mantis]

Because it is a short term viewpoint while MS are signalling "we are giving up on investing in unique content for Xbox." You may as well prepare for the move to Xbox going hardware free on Windows Store.

Look at the Vita. Software support gone, faith in the platform gone.

There is a surprising amount of perk you get from creating an ecosystem full of USP. Evidently the message from above is to absorb Xbox into Windows and start hammering the storefront angle. That will probably be pretty bobbins for them investing in games.

Unique content makes your platform attractive. It's not like there aren't alternatives either.

You keep comparing the two, when the truth is completely different. Microsoft are still supporting the Xbox One with games, whereas Sony stopped supporting the Vita. If we start seeing 1st party titles skipping the Xbox, then you can claim that, but now?

 

[Fishook]

The only reason they are giving free codes to Xbox pre orders, is to encourage people to use the Microsoft store, and it will be tied to your Xbox account, there wont be a code in the box.

The high specs mean only serious gamer's would chose PC over Xbox, for me its a plus that the PC is getting more games, I have never considered getting a console just for a few days, unless I could not afford a new PC but that's just me. PC gaming is more expensive in the long term not mattter what people say.

 

[jdmonmou]

So how do gamers who love both xbox and PC platforms think this is not an awesome deal/idea?

The problem is that this move makes the Xbox One redundant for someone who owns both. Cross play / Cross save has no real value since I will play the entire game on PC because that will be the best version. Buying an Xbox One and paying for a gold subscription now seems like a waste of money if you also own a capable gaming PC.

 

[Durante]

The problem is that this move makes the Xbox One redundant for someone who owns both. Cross play / Cross save has no real value since I will play the entire game on PC because that will be the best version. Buying an Xbox One and paying for a gold subscription now seems like a waste of money if you also own a capable gaming PC.

Reading this it seems like the net effect for you would be no longer needing to pay a gold subscription.

As such, it doesn't really answer the question of why you would think that it's not an awesome deal?

 

[AP90]

Well I bought my Xbox One for Forza and in part, for upcoming games like QB and Scalebound. If you put it that way maybe I'm not an intelligent person because I should have seen this coming. If they put Forza on the PC as well then I 100% should not have bought the console considering the fact that I treat my PC very much like a gaming console anyway. If you can't understand why people who own both an Xbox one and a gaming PC might be a bit annoyed about this then I don't know what to tell you. Simply put, if I had known this was going to happen I likely wouldn't have bought the Xbox one in the first place.

As for this "deal", it's not a great deal for those of us who will only ever play the game on the PC. Double dipping happens in most cases when the PC game is released at a later date than the console version. In this case both versions are releasing on the same day and date so it's really not a relevant point. I have no desire to ever play this game on the Xbox one when I know I can play the game sitting from exactly the same spot with the same controller in superior quality. Therefore it makes the deal a bad one from my perspective since I only need the PC version which I will be able to get cheaper than if I buy this amazing "deal" on the Xbox one store.

If you can find a use for the deal then good for you. It seems like you are pretty bought into their ecosystem so more power to you I guess, but don't act like everyone who owns both a gaming PC and an Xbox one should be overawed by this deal. A lot of us just care about playing the games we want, the way we want and at the best quality possible. I couldn't give two hoots about all the cross play stuff and "free" double dipping when I have my gaming PC and Xbox One both sat next to each other under the TV.

That's great that you treat your pc like a gaming console I am not attacking that. People who own a viable gaming pc and an Xbox one knew what they bough Xbox for. Same with Ps4 owners... They bought the system for key staple games.. Whether that be halo, gears or uncharted and/or others. Also, people lime co soles because they have access to numerous games in one location with set servers without having to open/update origin, Gog, steam, uplay and other game portals, which is also appealing.

For the most part games are slowly moving to pc and console releases as it provides devs with more income/funding for potential future sequels. This Gen saw numerous 3rd party releases to pc. First party is on it's way towards that route as well to a certain degree (ms is pushing this trend finally now for gaming to encompass both windows os and Xbox...which is what has been hinted for some time which they have been receiving lots of flak for not doing after speaking about it for a few years).

By MS providing cross play and a free windows version of the game(this may not happen all the time, or it might!) if you purchase digitally through there live store tackles all the points you mentioned about having options, playing at a superior quality, using your pc like a console on your TV day one. But they are doing within there ecosystem which they have every right to do.. So maybe thats what some people are complaining about because they want a release on steam. (or sometimes I do think xbox just gets extra flak because they are owned by MS).

I mean if you want to play it on just the pc, you have that option, if you want to play it on Xbox, you have that option, if you want to potentially play it/have it on both, you have that option as well. The complaining by people about MS allowing more people to play and access the game is astonishing to me.. I can't wrap my head around it to be honest.

 

[Lister]

The problem is that this move makes the Xbox One redundant for someone who owns both. Cross play / Cross save has no real value since I will play the entire game on PC because that will be the best version. Buying an Xbox One and paying for a gold subscription now seems like a waste of money if you also own a capable gaming PC.

I guess the question becomes - how many Pc gamers with GTX 760s or better (mind you there are lots of millions of them) also own an Xbone and would have purchased these games there had they not been available on the PC.

And is that number really critical to Microsoft over keeping a steady stream of big games that are DX12 only, which continue to incentivice movement into their new shiny OS? Not to mention the revenue from the potential millions who would have never purchased the game on an Xboen in the first place?

I guess time will tell.

 

[AP90]

The problem is that this move makes the Xbox One redundant for someone who owns both. Cross play / Cross save has no real value since I will play the entire game on PC because that will be the best version. Buying an Xbox One and paying for a gold subscription now seems like a waste of money if you also own a capable gaming PC.

Paying for gold subscription which everyone at least state side can pick it up for under $38 after taxes is a small price to pay to have access to free indie games, digital deals/sales/discounts, server support, multiplayer access and an periodically updated system. And gaming has been favoring digital for a long time now..first with pcs and now its picking up momentum on consoles.

So if you don't like playing any multiplayer games or just like buying games for single player campaigns and don't like testing out free indie games, then maybe Xbox gold is not right for you and you shouldn't sub anymore and possibly pc gaming is prob the way to go for you in that sense.


Edit: I also have friends and family who are not tech savy enough or dont have a gaming rig/pc to play with, so I game with them on the console. Its also a matter of circumstance and/or convenience. Like my brother will only play pc games on a gaming laptop, but he only buys laptops that are $700-800 and he likes it because of form factor, but the gpu power in that laptop really doesn't take you that far. But since he grew up playing on consoles, he will always buy one because its probably nostalgic for him as well and less of a hassle keeping things up to date.

 

[jdmonmou]

As such, it doesn't really answer the question of why you would think that it's not an awesome deal?

It's not such a good deal from the perspective that Microsoft is no longer giving me a reason to play games on the Xbox One. I rarely play games on Xbox One anymore since I play mainly on PC. I was hoping that Microsoft's exclusives were going to give me a reason to use my Xbox. But I guess I can sell it now.

 

[jello44]

X1 still has Forza.

So, no.

Plus, I'm too lazy to want to build another PC.

 

[Oxn]

It's not such a good deal from the perspective that Microsoft is no longer giving me a reason to play games on the Xbox One. I rarely play games on Xbox One anymore since I play mainly on PC. I was hoping that Microsoft's exclusives were going to give me a reason to use my Xbox. But I guess I can sell it now.

Im in your exact same shoes.

I have both a XBONe (which I never touch) and a Gaming PC with a 780GTX, soon to get a 1080GTX.

My worthless XBONE which I havent touched in a year but kept all this time thinking I'll eventually play Scalebound on it, will (likely based on rumors) now NEVER get touched.

EDIT: this monday I'll probably just trade it into Gamestop for $175, and hold onto that credit for PSVR.

 

[Lokbob]

Its probably not going to help sell xbox one consoles in markets like Germany, since the PC market is strong here.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

I think this is a test. If this does well on pc, I think lots of more xbox games going forward will go to pc as well. The next big one is gears. If that goes pc, then I think it's pretty much official at that point.

 

[wapplew]

Its probably not going to help sell xbox one consoles in markets like Germany, since the PC market is strong here.

Or China or SEA or Asia overall.

 

[Doffen]

X1 still has Forza.

So, no.

Plus, I'm too lazy to want to build another PC.

For now.

 

[SlaughterX]

So this game is gonna be cross but? How does that work exactly?

 

[Trojan]

Expecting imminent Phil Spencer phone call to BruceLeeRoy to persuade him on power of the cloud.

 

[Lister]

For now.

Well, it's not like it's NOT going to have Forza just because it also comes to PC. We can probably assume he'll also still be too lazy to build a PC then.

 

[Gtagentleman]

X1 still has Forza.

I can see Horizon 2 as a Windows 10 Store seller.

I mean game is old, but every pc gamer that likes simcade racing games want to play Horizon 2.

Its just a ton of new money and customers for MS if they can pull a port on a budget.

 

[TheAdmiester]

I can see Horizon 2 as a Windows 10 Store seller.

I mean game is old, but every pc gamer that likes simcade racing games want to play Horizon 2.

Its just a ton of new money and customers for MS if they can pull a port on a budget.

Any Forza game whatsoever (even the first from 2005) hitting the PC would be my biggest megaton ever. I'm dying to tear into the database of one Horizon 2 to add engine swaps like on 4/Horizon.

 

[Darryl M R]

Unless Halo 6 is on PC I'm still keeping my Xbox One. I'm going to build a PC eventually though.

 

[LukasTaves]

Its probably not going to help sell xbox one consoles in markets like Germany, since the PC market is strong here.

Exactly, and now they don't have to sell xbones there in order to sell games. Same for japan.

If Ms goes all in and unify the store (meaning all win store apps and games running on xbone and vice versa) they have a way bigger shot and having great game sales across the entire globe.

 

[AU Tiger]

I never had any intent to buy an xbox one any time remotely soon. Everything I really want to play are on PC so MS's decision just means that I'll actually get to play quantum break.

This trend needs to continue. I WANT to play some of these microsoft games but it would take at least a dozen amazing xbox only titles for me to even think about buying that console.

 

[soulassssns]

Even though I just upgraded my pc I will be sticking with my X1 for QB.

 

[Oxn]

Even though I just upgraded my pc I will be sticking with my X1 for QB.

Well you will get both so.....

 

[dodgykebaab]

the Xbox price is approaching 200€ in Germany.

Woah, that's a really low price.

 

[carl32]

Does anyone know if you get both versions if you buy it physical ?

 

[Zedox]

Does anyone know if you get both versions if you buy it physical ?

Nope. It's a deal for digital purchases only.

Q. How do I get the Windows 10 version of the game for free?

A. Starting February 11, anyone who pre-orders the digital version of “Quantum Break” for Xbox One through the Xbox Store will receive the Windows 10 version of the game for free, downloadable at the Windows Store via redemption code. The pre-order offer also applies for those who redeem a digital code purchased from participating retailers or from the Xbox One Special Edition Quantum Break Bundle by April 5, 2016.

 

[JoseLopez]

Why would I spend money on a pc when I have a xbone,ps4,vita,360 and 3ds. I am planning to get a laptop to play smaller indie games that don't come to consoles.

 

[John Wick]

The GPU alone will cost you $650. Have fun building a $1,300-1,500 PC that will play the same game as your $300 Xbox One.*

*This is of course assuming you bought it last holiday season and not at launch like me.

I think you'll find a $1300 PC will play the game far better than an Xbox One.

 

[pixellated_man]

No but to claim it would be identical is foolish. A lot of core users would jump ship, which in turn would affect future launches. The core users are the ones who drive those early sales. They get the ball rolling, that the casuals later start jumping on.

That's a great point actually. Something most of us forget easily.

 

[MUnited83]

The GPU alone will cost you $650. Have fun building a $1,300-1,500 PC that will play the same game as your $300 Xbox One.*

*This is of course assuming you bought it last holiday season and not at launch like me.

I mean, if you completely ignore that you don't even have to spend half of that to get the game running at better settings than Xbox One...

 

[Zedox]

That's a great point actually. Something most of us forget easily.

It would be a great point only if we know how the next launch is going to go. Is the next Xbox going to be BC with XBO/360 too? That makes a purchase much easier since you get the upgrade perks and continue with their old games.

I do agree that early adopters are core players but how many of those core console players are also PC gamers primarily (while also the whole gaming scene getting larger as well)? I see the point but it always depends on what the offer is being given.

 

[paperspace]

Why would I spend money on a pc

I am planning to get a laptop to play smaller indie games that don't come to consoles

...

 

[ChosenPredator]

I mean, if you completely ignore that you don't even have to spend half of that to get the game running at better settings than Xbox One...

but unless you come onto a forum you wouldn't know you could spend less, but then you'd have to buy parts and people don't like doing that kind of stuff but then people will suggest a prebuilt PC but a console has a cool ecosystem that has a bunch of things already in it plus you can stream games if you're into that..lots of benefits when it comes to convience with consoles.

 

[twobear]

if pc having a large, high quality library of games was going to kill console gaming, it would have done so years ago; i don't see that xbox games coming to pc now is suddenly going to kill the console tbh

 

[TheAdmiester]

Why would I spend money on a pc when I have a xbone,ps4,vita,360 and 3ds. I am planning to get a laptop to play smaller indie games that don't come to consoles.

It might sound shocking to you, but you do realise that a laptop is a PC right?

 

[ZOONAMI]

Xbone vs new rig doesn't really compute. People already have a rig, or they don't. Virtually no one is going to sell their xbone and build a rig.

Or, building/buying a new rig would generally be a completely independent decision of whether or not you have an Xbox one, or would sell it in order to build a rig. That's a pretty hardcore/niche market segment that would do that.

Beyond that, a lot of people use their Xbox primarily as a media hub, it's exclusive games are irrelevant. I literally have a gaming rig hooked up to my TV, and another rig in my bedroom, and I wouldn't sell my Xbox.

 

[JayDotZee]

I'm ditching the last intents of buying other current gen machine.

I mean, all the good games are coming to PC, anyway.

 

[Kssio_Aug]

Sorry for the double post.

 

[Kssio_Aug]

I can see Horizon 2 as a Windows 10 Store seller.

I mean game is old, but every pc gamer that likes simcade racing games want to play Horizon 2.

Its just a ton of new money and customers for MS if they can pull a port on a budget.

I think it's very unlikely to see Forza Motorsport or Horizon on Windows 10 right now... maybe next gen. However, if that happens, I'd gladly embrace it, upgrade my PC, and turn it into my main gaming machine.

I'm ditching the last intents of buying other current gen machine.

I mean, all the good games are coming to PC, anyway.

Besides I DO like my PS4 and my XB1, aswell as I'm strongly interested in WiiU (love Nintendo games), to everyone who asks me nowadays which console should they buy I just advise to get a nice PC if they can afford it, or, if not, to decide based on the console exclusives. I particularly, at this point, would hardly buy a PS4 and a XB1 after realizing how nice PC can be (with every functionality of consoles and more), but now that I already own both I find hard to "ditch" them and discard the possibility to play some exclusive titles they will receive.

If MS plans to go deep in this Windows 10 and Xbox unification (which seems they do), the PC gaming environment just became even more interesting to me.

 

[Succinct Verbosity]

I'm ditching the last intents of buying other current gen machine.

I mean, all the good games are coming to PC, anyway.

I don't know. With Microsoft, sure, but with Sony and Nintendo their first party exclusives aren't going to leave their consoles. Excluding Naughty Dog and all Nintendo games from your life doesn't seem all that great to me.

 

[Brofist]

Don't need to ditch anything. Didn't even bother buying this gen of consoles and went all in on PC straight away cause I knew there was really no point.

 

[SparkTR]

Don't need to ditch anything. Didn't even bother buying this gen of consoles and went all in on PC straight away cause I knew there was really no point.

I got a Wii U because I like Nintendo stuff, but seriously there are so much fewer console exclusive games this generation than there was last generation. I mean they were keeping stuff like Call of Duty, The Darkness, Battlefield, MGS, Ensembled RTS's etc off PC this time last generation, franchises and developers that used to be ubiquitous with the platform had entries exclusive to consoles. Back then the industry really did push PC gamers towards buying a console, this time around I'm not seeing any of that. I could happily just game on my PC in my spare time and not run low enough on content to want to buy a console. I'll happily buy Nintendo's stuff though.

 

[Durante]

I got a Wii U because I like Nintendo stuff, but seriously there are so much fewer console exclusive games this generation than there was last generation. I mean they were keeping stuff like Call of Duty, The Darkness, Battlefield, MGS, Ensembled RTS's etc off PC this time last generation, franchises and developers that used to be ubiquitous with the platform had entries exclusive to consoles. Back then the industry really did push a PC gamers towards buying a console, this time around I'm not seeing any of that. I could happily just game on my PC in my spare time and not run low enough on content to want to buy a console. I'll happily buy Nintendo's stuff though.

Yeah, now that you mention it last gen was really different, especially towards the beginning.

I bought a 360, among other reasons, because Mass Effect was an exclusive (for a significant amount of time, and at that point assumed to be permanent) for it. Mass Effect, the massive next-gen WRPG by Bioware, (supposedly) exclusive to a single console.

 

[Relativ9]

Well I already have pretty much the best single gpu rig money can buy, and if any game was gonna make me buy an Xbox One it would probably be from the same studio that made my buy a Xbox 360, so knowing their game will be on PC...which I've already spent money on, certainly affects my purchasing decision. If they make Forza great again I might consider getting one, but for now I'm good with my gaming PC and PS4.

 

[GHG]

That's great that you treat your pc like a gaming console I am not attacking that. People who own a viable gaming pc and an Xbox one knew what they bough Xbox for. Same with Ps4 owners... They bought the system for key staple games.. Whether that be halo, gears or uncharted and/or others. Also, people lime co soles because they have access to numerous games in one location with set servers without having to open/update origin, Gog, steam, uplay and other game portals, which is also appealing.

For the most part games are slowly moving to pc and console releases as it provides devs with more income/funding for potential future sequels. This Gen saw numerous 3rd party releases to pc. First party is on it's way towards that route as well to a certain degree (ms is pushing this trend finally now for gaming to encompass both windows os and Xbox...which is what has been hinted for some time which they have been receiving lots of flak for not doing after speaking about it for a few years).

By MS providing cross play and a free windows version of the game(this may not happen all the time, or it might!) if you purchase digitally through there live store tackles all the points you mentioned about having options, playing at a superior quality, using your pc like a console on your TV day one. But they are doing within there ecosystem which they have every right to do.. So maybe thats what some people are complaining about because they want a release on steam. (or sometimes I do think xbox just gets extra flak because they are owned by MS).

I mean if you want to play it on just the pc, you have that option, if you want to play it on Xbox, you have that option, if you want to potentially play it/have it on both, you have that option as well. The complaining by people about MS allowing more people to play and access the game is astonishing to me.. I can't wrap my head around it to be honest.

Ok so let me ask you something. If Microsoft are really all about giving gamers options, why is it that I have to pre-order through the Xbox one store in order to get this cross-buy "deal"? Why can't I buy it on the Windows 10 store and also get the Xbox One version as cross-buy?

Or do you believe and regurgitate every line of PR bullshit that they put out?

 

[Madness]

No joke, I will not buy the next console from Microsoft if this is what they're doing going forward. If I can play Halo and Gears and Forza and what not on PC, I will buy a new PC and leave Xbox behind altogether. Why pay for overpriced junk with proprietary standards and a shitty $50 a year online service if I don't have to?

I've owned OG Xbox, 3 Xbox 360 (launch premium, Elite, slim) and Sunset white Xbox One and ten years of Xbox Live. I'd leave the brand in a heartbeat if the games were available elsewhere.