I'm not going to lie: I think he's much, much better off where he's at as a supporting actor. He's really good at helping to fill out scenes, but he doesn't have the charisma to be the sole center of attention. The writing for his character sure didn't help, but at the end of the day, he was a real nothingburger in Kickboxer: Vengeance.
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I'm not going to lie: I think he's much, much better off where he's at as a supporting actor. He's really good at helping to fill out scenes, but he doesn't have the charisma to be the sole center of attention. The writing for his character sure didn't help, but at the end of the day, he was a real nothingburger in Kickboxer: Vengeance.
Freeza Under The Shower
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that's not a bet. From what I recall (without looking it up), the original movie bombed horribly, much like Carpenter's The Thing. Both became cult classics due to the arrival of home video.
So saying 'the same thing will happen' is not really much of a bet. Saying it will make a billion, now that's a bet. Let's say it can make 400 WW as that would be double its production budget and quite alright for a sci-fi movie. It probably won't, but it's worth remembering Arrival had amazing legs compared to expectations, and I don't mean Amy Adams's specifically (but we were all thinking it). So maybe Bladerunner 2049 can do similar to that.
I still don't expect much from Wonder Woman outside of the US, so lucky break aside, watching the DOM-Foreign division percentage should be the interesting part to watch for, imo.
Wait BR is a 200 mill film? Why?
Plasticine
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At least you're not worse than Covenant's second week drop, Bobby. That's BronsonLee territory.
igordennis
Member
It's a remark that everyone's favorite PR guy Jeff Snider made at a recent trade show, and as best as anyone can figure, it's because the production company behind it, Alcon, is a notorious over-spender.
She blends into the sofa...
Is it a money laundering front?
Inceptional
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Well you know at least $20 mill went to Ford, probably $10 mill to Gosling and at least $5 to Villinueve coming off the success of Arrival. Add in the amazing special effects and cgi and I can see how it would baloon to that price. It's still a little steep but that's cool with me.
Alcon has never made a 200mil flick though. Their biggest have been Point Break and Transcedance at 100mil. 200mil would double that shit, which doesn't make sense. I'd say around 100mil is more likely. Which puts it on par with Martain, a bit more and it would be Promotheus and Gravity level.
Dude is likely happy to be the lead in shite and supporting in Marvel cosmic films. He's like a smarter Segal.
Freeza Under The Shower
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I suspect it more a boast than reality, but I also think that with modern CGI as it is and no love for good old matte paintings, making a movie today to look like the original Blade Runner did (and does in the subsequent cuts, since the original was kinda rough at times), was always going to be a much more expensive affair. Probably why it spend some time (lol, three decades) in development hell too.
broncobuster
Banned
How'd Baywatch do in comparison with CHIPs?
BronsonLee
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WHAT IS THIS
DizzyCaffeine
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Pirates was alright. If you're in the mood for that kind of spectacle/movie, it's perfectly serviceable and entertaining.
At least I'm not questioning my own sanity like I did with Alien. Some of the choices made in that movie were just infuriating.
At least I'm not questioning my own sanity like I did with Alien. Some of the choices made in that movie were just infuriating.
If they really do Transformers and DC movies wouldn't make less money then they did, for the DC movies it seems it was more WOM, imo it matters more for smaller movies than it does for blockbusters.
Baywatch: $69m budget, $18m opening
CHIPs: $25m budget, $7.7m OW ($18m total domestic)
They seem kinda proportional returns, but with that budget Baywatch has a lot more at stake.
I have no idea how Baywatch cost that much. The effects work on both the green screen and the effects are amazingly bad; there's a sequence with a ship burning and sinking that looks positively dreadful.
broncobuster
Banned
Both cost more than expected.
Maybe Hollywood will cool it on making movies based on old TV shows. Technically Power Rangers could fall in the group, too.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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That reported budget has to be a joke.
Anyway, it's definitely a disastrous run so far. Paramount is going to have a bleak year outside of TF5 and maybe the new Cloverfield movie.
True Detective season 1 killed any chance of Daddario in a swimsuit being a draw.
I wouldn't expect Transformers to do so hot either after how Age of Extinction did in the States.
andythinkpad
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It warms my heart that the fake alien movie is sinking like a rock.
Obviously purely anecdotal, but some time ago my sister, an extremely casual moviegoer, was interested in a movie because of its imdb rating. I think mainstream audiences are much more savvy about how a film is received these days.
I generally agree. I think people look to RottenTomatoes a lot for a general "is it worth seeing" outlook.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Domestically, I doubt it does any better than Pirates 5. But overseas will still make it a winner, especially since it has apparently has an insane minimum guaranteed cut from China (around $130M).
I guess I may be selling Daddy's Home 2 short, though. The first made $150M domestic.
People say this literally every year. Been solid so far on a blockbuster level and an independent level.
Yup. Can't wait. A Ghost Story too. Got a great month coming.
Half of the worldwide box office was in China, so it made much less than the WW take suggests.
Succinct Verbosity
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Yeah. Thinking this too. We are far enough away from Guardians of the Galaxy for that to no lobger be a threat and all other blockbusters out at the moment are reviewing terribly.
Discotheque
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Baby Driver, Dunkirk, War for Planet of the Apes, It Comes at Night and Ghost Story all coming out within a 4 week stretch is nuts.
those are all like top 10 of the year contenders imo. god damn.
not to mention that apparently the Lynne Ramsay movie with Joaquin Phoenix is apparently fantastic and is getting comparisons to Taxi Driver of all things. I think we're in for another real strong year for films. Logan ended up being my favorite superhero movie since The Dark Knight too. So all in all its looking up for all genres at the moment.
those are all like top 10 of the year contenders imo. god damn.
not to mention that apparently the Lynne Ramsay movie with Joaquin Phoenix is apparently fantastic and is getting comparisons to Taxi Driver of all things. I think we're in for another real strong year for films. Logan ended up being my favorite superhero movie since The Dark Knight too. So all in all its looking up for all genres at the moment.
NealMcCauley
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Yeah I've been reading about that. Guy won best actor at Cannes. Jesus.
Angelus Errare
Banned
He created a production company with his ex-wife?
Bold move cotton, let see if it pays off.
I remember thinking Wonder Woman might get buried with Alien, Pirates, Mummy, and Transformers all coming out around the same time but looks like it's in a pretty good spot with two of those doing meh and the others looking like flops. With the good buzz it's been getting and the marketing really hitting at the right time it's got the momentum to have a great OW. Crossing my fingers the positive reactions we've gotten from some critics holds true for it to be reviewed well.
Boombloxer
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Dany is his ex
Razgriz-Specter
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I will never understand the interest in the current Apes franchise.
Like the first I can understand,maybe, just maybe the second.
But WTF is the point of 3, It just looks so boring and who the hell are you supposed to pull for?
Commercials make the humans out to be the bad guys and im certainly not going to pull for some monkeys defeating humanity.
Saw the first but you couldn't pay me to watch 2 or 3.
Like the first I can understand,maybe, just maybe the second.
But WTF is the point of 3, It just looks so boring and who the hell are you supposed to pull for?
Commercials make the humans out to be the bad guys and im certainly not going to pull for some monkeys defeating humanity.
Saw the first but you couldn't pay me to watch 2 or 3.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Smokey_Run
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Let's see. The second one sits at 90% on RT, has an avg review score of 7.9 on RT, and made $710M.
Considering the budget though, I think they're probably happy enough with it. xXx 4 wouldn't be a shock to me at all.
Future Foundation
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They're well reviewed, well liked, the acting is good, and they make good money. It's really not that hard to understand.
This surprises me. Beauty and the Beast seemed like a massive hit from the moment it was announced.
And it's not like True Detective was some obscure show, either.
Like, get your jollies where you can, but to put it crudely, they already unwrapped that gift packaging.
Why do you need someone to root for?
Razgriz-Specter
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I understand that but im more asking what specifically is it about 2 and potentially 3 that really gets people interested.
Im legitimately asking as I typically understand why good or bad movies make it.
I liked the first but the previews for 2 immediately turned me off.
Thats kinda how movies typically work? Unless thats specifically the point.
broncobuster
Banned
Those are the emotions you're meant to come to grips with. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes deftly presents a grey conflict.