Can't be worse than Godzilla 2014. That was a real trash heap.
Also why link your posts when you can just quote them?
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Wkd BO 0526-2817 - Rock in bay can't stop Pirates or Guardians, Alien sinks tho
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Can't be worse than Godzilla 2014. That was a real trash heap.
Also why link your posts when you can just quote them?
Gentleman Jack
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They only care about toys and tv commercials, both of which are heavily influenced by ratings.
Oh you were talking about metacritical scorecards. Proceed.
CaviarMeths
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RT is one of the most viewed websites in the world with 25m+ unique users monthly. Audiences care a lot more than they used to.
BuckRobotron
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RT has Alien Covenant at 71 percent, but apparently wom did it in. Baywatch certainly was partly done in by the reviews but also bad wom. I also point people to content review sites like Kids-in-mind.com and Baywatch isn't something any of us wanted to see. Many factors and information sources for Hollywood to consider (blame?).
Tron Legacy would have been a better movie if it were just a 2hr light cycle battle with the Daft Punk soundtrack.
People cared in the past. Ebert and Siskel two thumbs up was huge and movies would advertise the hell out of that. I just think that after these two passed on no other critics have come close to their respect and legacy in the public eye. Esp Ebert.
Getting a good review from Ebert carried a ton of weight.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Tron: Legacy doesn't even use the Daft Punk score well. You listen to the actual soundtrack and its 10 times better than what is in the movie.
Gentleman Jack
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I'm still trying to remember what even happens in Tron Legacy before Quorra shows up, and between that and Flynn merging with the singularity or whatever the fuck happened. Something about discs? There were discs.
Also the fact that nobody ever watched Baywatch for anything other than slomo tits. Even then, it was during reruns.
21 Jump Street worked because it was a decent meta comedy that did it's own thing first, everything after such as CHIPS, Baywatch, etc. has no real reason to exist.
When dax shepard is your co-lead, you fucked up along the way
ElBoxyBrown
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I didn't hear about this. What happened in the movie?
But if they didn't give the movie 2 thumbs up you simply didn't mention them in your advertising.
I do agree they cared; I just mean negative critiques were far less visible.
Gotcha and agree.
illmatic22
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Big Mommas: Like Father, Like Son
I think that $800-900M for Pirates is being optimistic. China is having a holiday weekend and is majorly skewing the overseas gross currently.
Websites like Rotten Tomatoes really blew up as facrbook took off and sharing that stuff because trivial.
Websites like Rotten Tomatoes really blew up as facrbook took off and sharing that stuff because trivial.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Agreed. Let's give it $175M domestically (which is probably optimistic), then even the low end of that range requires a 3.0 multiplier off this overseas opening. That's really high for a film that's opened in every major market except Japan.
Gentleman Jack
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China is most likely heading for something in $150-170M range, depending on legs. Domestic will be similar.
Overseas was around $140M without China. Given the exhange rate, Japan will take a big dip from OST, but let's say it holds up fairly well in Yen and makes $60M there.
Domestic + China + Japan = maybe $400M.
As you said, $800M would require a 2.85x multiplier or better from the rest. $500M would require a 3.6x or better multiplier. And that is assuming China doesnt just collapse after the 5 day holiday period, or that Wonder Woman doesnt kill domestic holdovers next week. Not a given.
Future Foundation
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Cena? Not yet. Dave's gotten some good roles.
All of these bombs sure are setting the stage nicely for Wonder Woman. I thought moving that to June would end up being a disaster but it looks like smooth sailing.
I know a lot of people sure like pretending he's the real star of the Fast movies and they should drop Vin Diesel from his own franchise. I have strong doubts about how successful that Rock/Statham spin-off is going to be.
I know a lot of people sure like pretending he's the real star of the Fast movies and they should drop Vin Diesel from his own franchise. I have strong doubts about how successful that Rock/Statham spin-off is going to be.
Kenzodielocke
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Dave will be in the best movie of this year, so yeah, agreed.
Jason Momoa was close to being Drax. That huge what if.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Wasn't Triple H close to being Thor, as well?
I'm honestly shocked The Rock still hasn't gotten that definitive action role yet.
I'm honestly shocked The Rock still hasn't gotten that definitive action role yet.
So far, it's only Hobbs.
He even went back to the WWE to get something because he was desperate at that point.
I don't know about that. Dave has plenty of shit out there but it gets swept under the Direct to Netflix rug so to speak.
GOTG and Bond already seems like a big 1-2 over Rock.
nhlducks35
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He's also in the new Blade Runner movie
ElBoxyBrown
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If they keep up the strong chemistry between Rock and Statham it'll be fine.
Plasticine
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Batista is like the Rock. They both need Vin Diesel to carry them to box office success.
Anyone could be Groot. Especially given the voice shift in GotG2.
Now we are stuck in Ridley Scott's garbage Alien universe since Blomkamp is now busy. Enjoy this Fox. With a 70 percent second weekend drop you aren't even making money on his movies.
Edit: I misread this you were talking about Alien Covenants awful, undeserved RT score. I thought you were talking about it's second weekend drop of 71% which means even the fans think its a trash movie.
I wouldn't say that's any better than Fast & Furious and Moana. Moana is better than any movie Dave has done. Mind you, I do like Batista. I'm just saying his roles haven't been any hotter than Rock's.
Net_Wrecker
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Biggest-Geek-Ever
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A pretty amusing statistic
Current projected 4-day opening of Pirates 5: $76.6M
Inflation adjusted opening day of Pirates 2: $75.4M
And Dead Man's Chest didn't have 3D or IMAX. So it certainly sold more tickets in a day than this new one will in four.
Current projected 4-day opening of Pirates 5: $76.6M
Inflation adjusted opening day of Pirates 2: $75.4M
And Dead Man's Chest didn't have 3D or IMAX. So it certainly sold more tickets in a day than this new one will in four.
Looks like he plays some generic enforcer.
Like Spectre but who knows, they could give him some lines and somehow be good.
True, both have those roles but Dave is picking his roles a bit better, hell Ferdinand could be the same for Cena.
even though the new pirates is out i couldn't be less interested in paying to go see it in the cinema, especially after 3 and 4. instead i'll probably go watch gotg 2 again in the next few days.
sadly i don't think i'll be able to see wonder woman until a week after it's release even though i'm slowly getting more and more optimistic. i hope it's good, and if it is i hope it does well. i'm willing to bet that a lot of people who were extremely low balling it in the box office prediction thread are gonna look pretty silly this next week.
i was wrong. so, so wrong. we both hated it. the drive back home was a mixture of silence due to complete disbelief followed by endless ranting due to pure anger. i'm still pissed off that we both actually paid money to watch that fucking thing.
sadly i don't think i'll be able to see wonder woman until a week after it's release even though i'm slowly getting more and more optimistic. i hope it's good, and if it is i hope it does well. i'm willing to bet that a lot of people who were extremely low balling it in the box office prediction thread are gonna look pretty silly this next week.
suicide squad. my girlfriend was extremely hyped and had been looking forward to the idea of a suicide squad film before it had even been announced, citing it as her dream comic book property to be adapted into film. any excitement i had for the film had been dampened slightly by the reviews but i hadn't seen batman v superman yet so was unsure whether my views would line up with the critical consensus and i was at least kinda confident that at the very least it could provide 2 hours of mindless action, seeing as it came from a director known for decent action flicks.
i was wrong. so, so wrong. we both hated it. the drive back home was a mixture of silence due to complete disbelief followed by endless ranting due to pure anger. i'm still pissed off that we both actually paid money to watch that fucking thing.