Isn't there a comic that takes place in the DARK future where peter Parker accidentally kills Mary Jane with his radioactive sperm?
Git er done Sony
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Isn't there a comic that takes place in the DARK future where peter Parker accidentally kills Mary Jane with his radioactive sperm?
Git er done Sony
BronsonLee
Member
Y'all are weird
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
I mean, it's still going to make a lot of money.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Time for a third reboot: Spider-Man Begins, followed by Dark Reign and Dark Reign Rises starring Carnage.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Spidey is still highly successful. He's now cameo'd in a better-than-average superhero flick, and held down his own return movie that is better than anything in about 10 years.
The problem is that there's been three movies and four appearances of Spidey in live-action in those 10 years, as well. So the appeal, while still strong, is muted a little because Spidey just never went away.
Couple that with the fact that dude dropped his movie in what I would argue is the single best year for superhero films overall? Where the average quality for cape flicks is higher than I can remember it, honestly - especially with the number of superhero films being released in the summer?
Essentially: he's not as special, superheroes aren't as special, and while quality matters, he was up against a pair of juggernauts (Guardians 2 & Wonder Woman) and by comparison, the pull to go check him out just wasn't as strong, it seems.
(Plus, and this somewhat vindicating (I am selfish I am wrong, I am right I swear I'm ri—
I feel like people are starting to get sick to death of Tony Fucking Stark, so plastering him all over the trailers might not have helped as much as they wanted either)
Anywhere between 290-315 is not going to be seen as a failure, or even a disappointment, I don't think.
The problem is that there's been three movies and four appearances of Spidey in live-action in those 10 years, as well. So the appeal, while still strong, is muted a little because Spidey just never went away.
Couple that with the fact that dude dropped his movie in what I would argue is the single best year for superhero films overall? Where the average quality for cape flicks is higher than I can remember it, honestly - especially with the number of superhero films being released in the summer?
Essentially: he's not as special, superheroes aren't as special, and while quality matters, he was up against a pair of juggernauts (Guardians 2 & Wonder Woman) and by comparison, the pull to go check him out just wasn't as strong, it seems.
(Plus, and this somewhat vindicating (I am selfish I am wrong, I am right I swear I'm ri—
I feel like people are starting to get sick to death of Tony Fucking Stark, so plastering him all over the trailers might not have helped as much as they wanted either)Anywhere between 290-315 is not going to be seen as a failure, or even a disappointment, I don't think.
LordOfLore
Banned
You know, if I was Marvel I would probably ask Sony if they want to set the spin-offs in the actual MCU now. That way they can at least get some oversight.
Strange discussion IMO. Spidey is going to gross $300-$325m most likely, still a good run by any measure. It's not a GREAT run but I'm not sure why anyone expected a GREAT run. We've already had a well received Spider-Man movie on the big screen and it wasn't that long ago either. You need to do something fresh to go from good to great.
Kabuki Waq
Member
Problem is the movie just didn't have enough great moments to be rewatchable. It felt very cookie cutter created by committee type thing.
I don't think I heard anyone talking about watching it again or buying it on blu ray when movie was over.
I don't think I heard anyone talking about watching it again or buying it on blu ray when movie was over.
Maybe they shouldn't have featured Iron Stark so much in a fucking Spiderman movie.
They let Ant-Man have his solo movie with solo posters and promo and whatever, but for some reason they were afraid the single biggest Marvel character would bomb without fucking Tony Stark?
Whatever.
They let Ant-Man have his solo movie with solo posters and promo and whatever, but for some reason they were afraid the single biggest Marvel character would bomb without fucking Tony Stark?
Whatever.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Bobby Roberts
Banned
If it has 60% drops week to week I don't know if it's getting to 325.
2.5x opening weekend gets it to 292.
Yep, one of the greatest cinematic milestones of my lifetime. Up there with memories of Avatar, titanic, and the Avengers wrecking shit and changing the landscape of the norm.
Also, dont know why but I remember when the matrix and Life starring martin and Eddie Murphy was going back and forth for the number 1 slot for like a month straight. That was thrilling shit. Lol
Stark didn't bother me in SMH, he was only used sparingly. I really enjoy the new Peter Parker but having a high school setting again to me was just boring. But if Spiderman is coming into the MCU it actually makes sense, otherwise you would wonder where he was the past 10 years. On top of this, not too interested in Spidernoob. I mean heck, I literally just watched Civil War again yesterday and Spiderman was way more competent in that than he was in Homecoming. This makes sense...how? He even used his spidey sense in Civil War.
Also, who knew 6 months ago we would be talking about how Wonder Woman crushed Spiderman at the US box office.
Also, who knew 6 months ago we would be talking about how Wonder Woman crushed Spiderman at the US box office.
Stark was barely in the movie. Now if you said Happy Hogan, I'd be right there with you.
I think we need to see next weekend to know where it's headed. 60% in July isn't 60% in April or May. The only other MCU movies to open in July are Ant-Man (dropped 56.5%) and Captain America (dropped 60.7%). CA still ended up with a 2.7 multiplier.
If I had to guess, I still think it ends up over $300m.
I think we need to see next weekend to know where it's headed. 60% in July isn't 60% in April or May. The only other MCU movies to open in July are Ant-Man (dropped 56.5%) and Captain America (dropped 60.7%). CA still ended up with a 2.7 multiplier.
If I had to guess, I still think it ends up over $300m.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Good point!
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That's my point. Do you honestly think the average audience that hasn't seen it cares? All they see is another Spider-Man set in high school after the last two series were "set" in high school. The fact it'a more set in high school isn't some defining point.
Schweinehund
Member
I think you're on the money, at least for me.
There's nothing wrong with Spider-man homecoming in particular, just that it's another Spider-man film in a sea of super hero movies. Even though it's a reboot, it still retreaded way too familiar ground for me. Now I've got a choice of Apes this weekend and I'd prefer finishing off a trilogy over Spider-man.
Stark was barely in the movie, but was extremely prominent in the ad campaign
Friday studio estimates
1) War for the Planet of the Apes - $22.1M
2) Spider-Man Homecoming - $13.6M (-73%) - $177M total
3) Despicable Me 3 - $6.1M (-46%) - $175M total
4) Baby Driver - $2.6M (-33%) - $67M total
5) The Big Sick - $2.5M - $11M total
6) Wish Upon - $2.2M
7) Wonder Woman - 2.0M (-33%) - $376M total
1) War for the Planet of the Apes - $22.1M
2) Spider-Man Homecoming - $13.6M (-73%) - $177M total
3) Despicable Me 3 - $6.1M (-46%) - $175M total
4) Baby Driver - $2.6M (-33%) - $67M total
5) The Big Sick - $2.5M - $11M total
6) Wish Upon - $2.2M
7) Wonder Woman - 2.0M (-33%) - $376M total
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Baby Driver & Wonder Woman with those 33% holds
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Edit: scratch that the weekend phrasing is weird
CaviarMeths
Member
What's the actual Friday-Friday drop without previews?
Tobey Maguire as an old Spider-Man escorting a young Miles Morales through post-apocalyptic New York. Directed by Sam Raimi.
I'd watch that.
The high school angle is why I didn't go see it. I'm incredibly over Spider-Man high school days. I won't give it my time until we break new ground. Stop rebooting things.
BronsonLee
Member
did
did The Bronson Bump
...fail?!
did The Bronson Bump
...fail?!
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
I'd kill to see Maguire return in a Raimi adaptation of Amazing #400 (without the clone bullshit) that would end with the birth of Mayday and the passing of the Spidey torch to Miles. Alas, it shall never be. And yes, I'm a giant nerd.
I think its three average to mediocre previous movies and what Bobby said have worn people down on Spidey in general right now.
Oh hi MovieBob I didn't see you there.
Not sure how I should take that.
High school or college, the student role is just tired.
Anecdotal and all that but two parties that I go to the movies with (one of which I dragged to see Homecoming) said they're apprehension was primarily finding the "main kid" annoying. I guess that's a minority opinion (?) but I do wonder if going full kids movie limits some of the adult appeal? I took my mom (age 50) to see Civil War, she went to see Wonder Woman on her own with her husband. I wouldn't take her to see Homecoming - it'd feel like I was taking her to see Cars 3.
Anecdotal and all that but two parties that I go to the movies with (one of which I dragged to see Homecoming) said they're apprehension was primarily finding the "main kid" annoying. I guess that's a minority opinion (?) but I do wonder if going full kids movie limits some of the adult appeal? I took my mom (age 50) to see Civil War, she went to see Wonder Woman on her own with her husband. I wouldn't take her to see Homecoming - it'd feel like I was taking her to see Cars 3.
I liked it more than GotG2 and Wonder Woman.
The Friday drop isnt too bad given how big the preview showings were.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Nah. This is the summer with no billion dollar films. Nothing's on pace to change that
Yall should have known this would happen when Transformers bombed, as great a decision as that was from the general public
It's holding up fine, this isn't some disastrous drop. Some people just had crazy expectations. (Anyone who thought this was going to hit $1b was insane.)
And honestly, reaction has been overwhelmingly positive.
VeryGooster
Banned
Saw Homecoming last night and while I did enjoy it, this and Bobby's post that you quoted probably line more with why I didn't 'feel' as much of anything about it like I did with say, Logan or WW.
Then again I think I'm just that way with the MCU in general. I tend to enjoy those movies like I enjoy McNuggets or nachos from Taco Bell or something.
DarkLordMalik
Member
There goes my dream of 900+ million Spider-Man. This also proves Rotten Tomatoes bump doesn't magically work for every movie. First Spider-Man now Apes.
Gentleman Jack
Member
LordOfLore
Banned
Picked up the tickets to the Wednesday IMAX showing of Dunkirk. Taking my mother, her boyfriend and my little sister with me.