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Wkd BO 0707-0917 - Minions cede dominion over box office, Homecoming KING
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Messofanego
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It's an action movie that cares about its choreography so much, it feels like a musical due to the way it's edited with the music in mind. Think like music videos. It doesn't have singing numbers or lyrics, more that Baby's life has a soundtrack that he likes to sometimes dance to. You have to see it to understand that it's not like anything you've ever seen.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Ghost in the Shell bombed hard, Transformers 5 losing steam quickly... has Paramount had any hits this year?
Well foreign currency exchange is less than what it was a few years ago, which will effect it. Foreign audiences might not care that much for Spider-Man/won't recognize if it's quality or not. Iron Man 3 was only a year post-Avengers so people were still hyped for it. Civil-War was basically and Avengers-lite movie. Basically there are numerous reasons to doubt why Iron-Man being included could have an effect at all. As of right now, it's still only a little bit above Guardians 2 opening weekend, and its total gross so far is at 857 mil. Marvel movies as of lately have been very front-loaded, which means there could be some drop-offs in the coming weeks. We won't be able to predict accurately until next week.
I said somewhat realistic ¯_(ツ_/¯
This movie could have long legs due to word of mouth.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Box Office Mojo has various adjusted charts, such as this one, and you can find similar charts elsewhere, and most pages on BOM have a drop-down that lets you adjust the values to a specific year. Alternatively, you could look up historical ticket prices and/or tickets sold and do the math yourself, or use general currency inflation calculators online (just search inflation calculator) and just enter in the values.
Be warned though, as it's an extremely imprecise "science" (especially as many older films have misleading grosses due numerous theatrical runs being grouped together, resulting in much of the top grossing adjusted films being kind of bullshit).
Jawmuncher
Member
I expected more from spider man. Oh well.
Right?! Don't know why Swis doesn't start a BO blog or something. He's amazing and I've been following BO as long as I can remember.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
xXx 3 did alright.
Of course. I bet Avatar was close to that.
Interesting. If this is indeed the case I have to believe that MGM have already cut a deal with a studio to distribute this.
Word was months ago that this distribution deal was Warners to lose. But it would be interesting if MGM and Sony could put aside their differences for one last Daniel Craig film. I could see SPE bending over backwards to make a deal for this, the sort of deal no other studio in a half decent position would ever make.
Like Skyfall it could release at the end of the October where it's only competition would be that WW2-zombie thriller from Bad Robot/Paramount.
Avatar remains the most expensive film ever made by quiet some margin.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
China saved that one, didn't they?
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BronsonLee
Member
lol wtf On Stranger Tides, 400 million dollar movie and it looked like shit + had a lot of unknowns starring in it. I blame Depp
Carter deserved its' fate though it does suck that it didn't raise the profile of the main people in it
Carter deserved its' fate though it does suck that it didn't raise the profile of the main people in it
Pop-O-Matic
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Disney has spent at least $1.27B total on the Pirates franchise.
For comparison, all 5 Transfarters only cost $922M
For comparison, all 5 Transfarters only cost $922M
Not even close.
Did you seriously just use Wikipedia to back up your point?
I didn't even know where to being with that.
Maybe with your samurai blade?
Pop-O-Matic
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Breh, it's 2017, and this isn't s high school term paper, so we can stop trying to act like Wikipedia isn't trustworthy, especially when everything is cited.
So since this isn't a high school term paper does that mean you're happy using this inaccurate info?
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Show your proof that it's inaccurate besides "lolWikipedia."
BronsonLee
Member
It surpassed Deadpool dom. The slayage is real.
We can only imagine if it was as succesful internationally as BvS but the brand name isn't (wasn't?) nearly as popular outside of the US.
AngmarsKing701
Member
:jnc
Just post something that says Avatar is the most expensive film ever. Definitely curious as I always thought it was Pirates as well.
Ignatz Mouse
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Damn right, if Gunn nails the third one, we could honestly be looking at one of the best trilogies ever. Crazy how many people are sleeping on Vol. 2.
2 was solid, but was not close to 1 for me.
Plot is weaker
character moments largely feel forced
not as amusing
I really enjoyed it at the theater, but it felt like "good sequel" not "great flick."
Rocket and the Gamora/Nebula threads really bring it down for me.
Well, you can begin with giving a source for your claims. And you can also follow the sources given on the Wiki page to verify if they are indeed (in)correct/plausible.
I agree Wiki isn't a source though, but it generally serves as a good overview.
PhoncipleBone
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That is also what inflated Tangled's budget iirc.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Pirates 5 doing much better than I would have thought - do you have any expectations for what its total haul will be?
I hope Wonder Woman earns more than BvS, although I'd guess at this point it's very unlikely.
Not even close.
I forgot about the "Tangeled costs how much?!?!?" Gaf meme
It's really good. Legs will be crucial here, but the opening was certainly impressive and points to ~$800M+ total
That and it was completely restarted at least once
That's fair. I wrote this up a couple of years ago. There's more but this is the gist of it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=116954573&postcount=90
Fun fact, Guy Ritchie made more of Avatar than he did off his Sherlock Holmes film that opened against it because he was an investor in the film co-financing vehicle that helped fund the film with Fox.
What happened to Avatar Guy Ritchie that turned him into King Arthur Guy Ritchie?
Lights and Waves
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BronsonLee
Member
That son of a bitch played both sides!
...literally everything on that list has a citation.
I quoted a direct link to the source. He didn't provide a single link. He didn't even provide a link to the wiki page he 'quoted'.
I mean...., it's not hard to either provide links or take a moment to understand what's happening rather than just posting tired GIFs.
You know what I mean?
Because the budget is normally just production budget.
There's still marketing (which is normally huge cost he film like this globally) and distribution fees including cinema's cut etc.
So let's at total marketing was $100 million and distribution fees another $100 million.
Now we're at $495 - $417.
Now those are made up by numbers but general wisdom says the film is on track to make a pretty low profit when true cost is deducted from gross takings.
Factor in the really worrying drop from previous films from a straight business perspective and it's obvious this is a very bad performance vs expectations.
The franchise seemed untouchable. Now it's suddenly very touchable. That's the issue.
Studios don't invest over $200 million just on production budget for that WW gross. It doesn't stack up.
That said factoring in TV rights and media sales and the film will be profitable I'm sure but not hugely profitable: and generally studios are only interest in films this expensive being hugely profitable.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I had always heard that Avatar cost somewhere closer to $500 mil to make, yeah.
And screencapping Wiki pages isn't great citation, yeah.
I mean, especially in this thread where you got K-Swiss & BGE breaking shit down to the nth compound as the bar.
And screencapping Wiki pages isn't great citation, yeah.
I mean, especially in this thread where you got K-Swiss & BGE breaking shit down to the nth compound as the bar.
bananafactory
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Here's another article with some top film budgets, although it seems to exclusively be citing BoxOfficeMojo, I don't know if that's any more reliable than Wiki
http://www.businessinsider.com/most-expensive-movies-ever-2014-6
http://www.businessinsider.com/most-expensive-movies-ever-2014-6
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I know it's unreliable because it's adjusting for inflation
Homecoming came close enough to my 110M OW prediction. We will see how strong its legs are.
Disney gave him Aladdin. He gets to go back to BO hit Guy Ritchie.
Disney gave him Aladdin. He gets to go back to BO hit Guy Ritchie.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Did the Spidey actuals come in yet?
I called 118 and I'm hoping Sony underestimated out of modesty.
I called 118 and I'm hoping Sony underestimated out of modesty.
I think they usually come in a little later.