WyndhamPrice
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I think I read around the time that Cloud Atlas came out that they do a lot of overseas financing and distribution deals and it works out in such a way that no single entity is taking a giant loss.
Or something to that effect.
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I think I read around the time that Cloud Atlas came out that they do a lot of overseas financing and distribution deals and it works out in such a way that no single entity is taking a giant loss.
Or something to that effect.
I think not at Warner Bros.
I have a feeling they'll try to give them something guaranteed to be a hit like a DC movie.
Miles Quaritch
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Honestly, it's probably best not thought about too much. It's just a fun and somewhat interesting story.
That's meaningless PR blather. A WB executive isn't going to publicly say something like "We're disappointed with them and won't work with them in the future."
I'm sure the Wachowskis will make another movie somewhere, somehow, but they're not going to get those kinds of budgets again anytime soon.
Strange Magic, Mortdecai, Jupiter, Blackhat... so many huge bombas. Still glad Paddington is doing strong.
Yep, lots of funding in Europe.
Yep, lots of funding in Europe.
Cloud Atlas was financed independently, with WB only distributing the film in the US, whereas WB fronted a large portion of Jupiter's budget.
Messofanego
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Well, then why even mention the future? Why not just say "it's a shame"? I don't have anything else to go on with what the studio plans to do with the Wachowskis other than people here saying to not believe the PR and they're getting kicked off from the lot now.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
If we're going by "The Second Renaissance" short from The Animatrix it was implied that humanity was so technologically advanced and superior as a species that they became drunk with power which lead them to make a lot of dumbass decisions. They saw themselves as a god to the machines and the machines decided they had enough of it.
alfredofroylan
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"shame" is one of those words that you rarely hear from an executive the other is "failure" Wrestling does the same thing, when they cut a wrestler they always put the same boring PR saying "We end our partnership with "X" and we wish him good luck on his future projects"
Still not a good reason IMO, basically they're like those aliens on Battlefield Earth?
Diprosalic
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:lol
FullMetaltech
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Just saw the Spongebob movie with my kids. To me it felt all over the place. They enjoyed it though.
They call it it being "Future Endeavored". Has a fun ring to it.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I've never seen Battlefield Earth so I don't know but I think it raises a question of what responsibilities we have when we create artificial intelligence that can have a mind of it's own. It's not gonna be perfect and most times it's always gonna lead to the extreme "man vs the machine" but it opens up discussion on this topic.
Beerman462
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Matrix prequels please. The Animatrix was a good appetizer. I'm ready for more.
Also Nolan won.
Also Nolan won.
Mentioned this in another thread.Marketing missed a major trick in not aiming this at females. And this was borne out by the crowd I saw it with which was mostly female the screening was pretty much sold out as well.
The thing was the film was great. It's a shame as I found the film very entertaining.
As a space opera it was imo better than Guardians of the galaxy' which rewatching it over Xmas showed how mediocre that film really was. That marvel branding really lifts middling movies.
I wouldn't not be against this. The architech basically said there was... 6-7(?) "revolutions" of the machines digging to Zion to nuke it and rebuild the human batteries/reboot the system. I'd like to see that "Shiny Happy People" one that failed that Agent Smith mentioned in the first film. Why people suddenly went to Zion.
The Animatrix short about the Second Renaissance wouldn't work in Live Action. Too costly to make with CGI budgets for the machines, blotting the world out, etc. A "first revolution" one would work because you could make sets for the "real world"/post-blocked sun and machines won. You'd be able to make sets for the Matrix/LA-on-location(? despite having to de-age LA to 1999). Muuuuch easier.
alfredoroyalan said:
Think about it. If the machines were running a lot of the things we take for granted (banks, etc) and we were treating them as slaves (which we basically were) why WOULDN'T they nuke our systems silently and make us regret giving them more power than they should have.
The "blotting the sun" idea was because most machines (in the universe) at the time were running on solar power. Unfortunately, the Machine City knew the humans were probably planning this and upgraded the machines/systems to not require that. It was similar to an EMP-nuke-bomb move, but backfired on the humans because the machines can "evolve"/overcome that weakness AND fucked the world up for the humans in a "fuck you, we're going down together" attempt.
Mega Man's Electric Sheep
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I think the marketing campaign for Spongebob was brilliant, because it capitalized on the superhero angle of the CGI part of the movie, and superhero movies are the it thing for kids these days, and there is no question that CG is much more marketable these days than traditional animation. In the process, the ads differentiated this movie from the last one, so it gave people a reason to see it. The only failure was alienating the older fans who were put off at the idea of CG Spongebob.
alfredofroylan
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Here's the thing, the whole mess started because one robot (can't remember the name) had a "malfunction" and defends itself from its master, now according to Animatrix there was a period where all machines tried to get their shit together and work with the humans for equallity, instead of that everybbody crossed their arms and let the idiot run wild, destroying robot and dumping them into the ocean (another great idea), I hate that concept of "we became so smart that we started acting like idiots" I've seen that with other Sci Fi universes and it's awful because it's tooo viseral, seems that everybody thinks with their livers instead of their brains.
I understand the Sun thing, but seriously nobody tought about the damage on our planet? Still it's a bad plan, honestly the whole man Vs machine war shouldn't have happened.
Freeza Under The Shower
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What they really needed was an editor who could have told them their movies was chasing too many targets at once. It's already really compacted (which is good), but it should have removed the Cinderella crap as well.
I mean, this is the genre list I could put Jupiter Ascending in:
Love story / Cinderella story / family survival / space opera / political / fantasy / conspiracy
The list with a proper cut / editor:
love story - family - political - fantasy
Or something similar to that anyway.
Btw: I did like the effort to write some things more towards a female observer, like Tatum's character getting a sanitary towel stuck to him as a band aid (resulting in a great exchange of 'the f' looks), instead of the cliche piece of suddenly available first aid kit.
There is also a strange difference is how fleshed out the Earth sections are compared to the lack thereof in the space parts. I imagine that they could write an excellent 'down back here on Earth' script, but it's the fantasy angle that does this movie in. Also: those family scenes feel very natural, presumably due to Kunis being a child of former Ukrainians. But..... but..
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Oh! and as for the genetics angle I now fully expect Jurassic World to be a turd as well. Hollywood doesn't understand this stuff, apparently.
This is pretty normal for January and February for movies.
outunderthestars
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It has been a shitty start to the year for movies. I have been wanting to check out the new theater down the street but there hasn't been a single film I wanted to see. 
First one was better but this one was still good enough.
Freeza Under The Shower
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50 shades is (probably) going to be huge, unfortunately. Shit was already sold out in the puny local theater we have here. So, yeah.
It kinda was
Miles Quaritch
Member
It was unnecessarily long and some of the accents/make up was awful.
Interesting approach to telling a story though, I did that aspect of the movie. Didn't so well at the BO though right?
Seems very unlikely. Latest tracking puts it in the 50-60 range.
outunderthestars
Banned
I really don't see who is going to give them $150 million plus to make another bomb. They are clearly out of touch with their audience.
They made one good film and have coasted on that for 15+ years.
Excuse me. Two-hit Wonder: Animatrix and the Matrix.
The legs of Paddington feel for me far more impressive. A family film based on a european IP doing so well worldwide months after the christmas window.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I quite enjoyed the sequels for what they were and Animatrix was pretty great. V wasn't too bad either.
Speed Racer is probably their second best movie to date, I really don't know why that one bombed. Seemed to have quite a lot of mass audience appeal. Was there any specific reason for it bombing? I didn't really follow B.O news back then.
I don't know why I like mortdecai bombing so much. It's like that Gwyneth Paltrow poster made me ignite some unrelenting hate since the first time I saw it.
I agree.
alfredofroylan
Member
Art style wasn't appealing, most people that grown with the show wasn't interesting to see it, really bad story, criticseat the heart out of that movie. It wasreleased 1 week after that little movie known as Iron Man.
A Human Becoming
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Wow. Removed before movies over two months old.
New releases losing to a movie in its seventh week is embarrassing. Did Avatar even manage that?
EDIT: Avatar stayed at #1 for seven weeks.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Yeah, the visuals were pretty take it or leave it in their approach, so I can somewhat understand from that point of view. Had no idea it came out just after IM, no wonder it pretty much tanked.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
awww crap Kingsman is coming out on the same day as 50. I'm hearing some good things about the movie and now it looks like it'll have a hard time making any money. This is brutal.
The Shogun
Banned
Is the beginning of 2015 the worst series of flops in like film history?
I mean there has been massive bomba's like every single week. HUGE Bombs
I mean there has been massive bomba's like every single week. HUGE Bombs
DontBeThatGuy
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That's a lame top 10.
You seem to think that Speed Racer had as much mass audience appeal as the Wachowskis thought it did. Even back then, people smelled a flop from the jump.
Delta Assault
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There were some good qualities to Cloud Atlas but the movie was very uneven. The makeup was just completely ridiculous.
If I'm asked to name the last unqualified success a la The Matrix for the Wachowskis, it's pretty much The Matrix.
Of course, I haven't seen Jupiter Ascending yet, so I might change my tune.
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