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[kswiston]

It's interesting that Seventh Son made more in a week internationally, than American Sniper has in seven weeks.

That's not actually true. Seventh Son has been out for about a month in a lot of overseas territories, including more major territories than American Sniper. Also, saying American Sniper has been out for 7 weeks is deceptive since it was only playing in Italy and like 4 US theatres for 3 of those weeks.

Didn't Shame do pretty well at the BO? At least for that kind of movie...

Shades also has the added benefit of opening on Valentine's weekend. That might boost numbers?

If you consider less than $4M domestic pretty well

 

[Oersted]

I really don't see a lot of legs for the film. Erotic films have never lasted very long in the past, and I just don't see how it could possibly attract any attention past Valentine's Day.

It'll do well this weekend, but it'll make the vast majority of its money in those three days.

Could be but then again, those books had crazy legs.

I can't see this movie doing well. It's one think to read a BDSM book and no one will know. It's a complete other thing to go out in public and be seen buying a ticket and going into a theater for it.

I do think it will do crazy sales on home media for this reason.

It will do well. The question is how long, but it will do well. The movie has a worldwide simultan release in all major markets sans China, has huge preorder sales, on a est 40 mil budget. Girls will go in Shades with their boyfriends and friends. Its an event.

 

[DarkFlow]

I don't know, people don't seem all that embarrassed to talk about how much they loved the books in public.

More than that i just wonder if the window for a 50 Shades movie sort of passed. I don't get the same sense with this as I did before stuff like Twilight released. Are the books still big and popular?

I thought the same until I saw my friends mum post a status on facebook about going to see it over spending valentines dinner with her husband and got 15+ comments of people saying they were doing the same
People arent as prudish as they once were and its really not often an event film for 25+ females comes along

Yeah maybe, I'm sure there's a few people who won't care. I still think it will be a tough sell, and I also think you're right, they waited too long to make this movie. The hype has died down I think. I even forgot about this movie for a couple months and thought it already came out.

Didn't Shame do pretty well at the BO? At least for that kind of movie...

Shades also has the added benefit of opening on Valentine's weekend. That might boost numbers?

Oh I'm sure V-day will drive numbers, but after that it might die.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

If you consider less than $4M domestic pretty well

I had it in my mind that it did pretty well. Not sure why... Must have been thinking about a different movie.

Thanks for the info though. I'm stunned it did so little.

 

[Toothless]

Boxoffice.com is predicting a $32M 4-day weekend for Kingsman and an $89M 4-day weekend for 50 Shades. That doesn't necessarily mean that either film will end up in those ranges though. Tracking has been pretty poor so far this year.

Both of those sound way too low. Especially 50 Shades. I'd be surprised at less than 89M for the three-day of 50 Shades. I think it has a good chance at 100M, but definitely it'll beat the current February record.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Oh I'm sure V-day will drive numbers, but after that it might die.

Yeah, I definitely agree with that. It'll likely see a huge drop second W/E.

 

[Oersted]

I had it in my mind that it did pretty well. Not sure why... Must have been thinking about a different movie.

Thanks for the info though. I'm stunned it did so little.

The more apt comparison is Sex and the City, also Rated R and pretty much same demographic. And those 2 did rather well. I can easily see Shades being in the same ballpark.

 

[Secret Fawful]

hearing from? surely not critics

and about Paddington, it is impressive, heck I'm English and I wasn't even sure people would have been interested here, yet it made enormous bank. It's been a positive surprise indeed!

I keep seeing positive impressions online, and general defense of the Wachowskis, but I can't say it's a substantial amount. Just enough to get me curious about Jupiter Ascending.

 

[Prototype]

I knew Jupiter would bomb. Channings gotee, eye makeup and ears told me.

 

[MIMIC]

Channing Tatum was in "Jupiter Ascending"? From the trailers I've seen here and there, I vaguely remember seeing Mila Kunis, but not Channing. I could swear that the guy I saw was Robert Downey, Jr.

 

[kswiston]

A blockbuster book having legs doesn't translate into the movie having legs. Actually, it seems to be the opposite. See Harry Potter, Twilight, the Da Vinci code etc. None of them had particularly good legs. All were front loaded for their era.

 

[Toth]

I hope people see The Last Five Years next week. It's an excellent musical with a powerful story and even better music.

 

[Ridley327]

I had it in my mind that it did pretty well. Not sure why... Must have been thinking about a different movie.

Thanks for the info though. I'm stunned it did so little.

It was an NC-17 film. $4 million is practically Marvel numbers for that rating.

 

[Nikodemos]

I knew Jupiter would bomb. Channings gotee, eye makeup and ears told me.

Yeah, what's up with those? His eye make-up makes him look like an actor from the days of silents. And his prosthetic ears are too big, and tend to sit too far from his head giving him a somewhat floppy-eared look.

OTOH, there's an underlying problem with the film's marketability. It is still socially unacceptable for young girls/women to like science-fiction (even the more fantasy-ish kind, which is a problem John Carter encountered as well). Which is why ads turned out the way they did (emphasizing the shootbang stuff to attract boys/young men).

 

[kswiston]

It was an NC-17 film. $4 million is practically Marvel numbers for that rating.

I guess that makes Showgirls the Avatar of NC-17

 

[Matt_]

Is there a reason why nc-17 films do so shit?
It's the equivalent of an 18 rating in the UK and they do fine

 

[kswiston]

Is there a reason why nc-17 films do so shit?
It's the equivalent of an 18 rating in the UK and they do fine

Major American cinema chains refuse to play them. Same sort of deal that exists with AO games on Consoles. They don't want to be associated with porn.

 

[Nikodemos]

I guess that makes Showgirls the Avatar of NC-17

The difference is that Shame was made on Jerry Bruckheimer's monthly hook- erm, escorts and blow budget.

 

[Toothless]

I hope people see The Last Five Years next week. It's an excellent musical with a powerful story and even better music.

I doubt it'll be wide enough for it to make an impression. I'd see it but no way will it be in my theater.

 

[JdFoX187]

I'm sad to say I'll be contributing two tickets worth of admission price to that damn movie. Girlfriend read the books, didn't like them, but still wants to see it. I just don't understand...

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

Another Wachowski bomb.

How they keep getting HUGE money to make movies is beyond me.

I'm willing to bet this is the last time. M Knight Shyamalan was forced to go low budget with his latest film. I suspect the Wachowskis will follow suit.

The only way I can see them getting a big budget again is if they do another Matrix film out of desperation. Which I imagine they will.

 

[J10]

The Wachowskis made one good movie In the first Matrix and have produced nothing but shit since. Why do they keep getting money? They are the hackiest of hacks.

Jupiter Ascending is the only bad movie they've made though.

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

Hope we get another good Matrix movie now.

Unlikely! We haven't had a good Matrix film since the first.

 

[BlazinAm]

Antidotal evidence but the movie theatre where I work already have multple sell-outs for 50 shades since like Friday.

 

[Discotheque]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4puUo4OYViE

this scene was in one of wachowskis shitty films. they need a lot of help on the scriptwriting front but their visual sensibilities have never been lost.

 

[brianmcdoogle]

JA has always looked atrocious and the story details that I gathered accidentally make it sound awful. At this point, I'd like to see the Wachowski's do something small and on a budget just to see if they can survive without convoluted and bloated ideas/production.

 

[jett]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4puUo4OYViE

this scene was in one of wachowskis shitty films. they need a lot of help on the scriptwriting front but their visual sensibilities have never been lost.

The Wachs have undeniable talent and a great eye for visuals, they're the only reason I gave JA a chance, despite having little to no interest in the actual movie and not liking a single trailer

JA is just something that wasn't properly thought out before it entered production.

 

[SFenton]

God I'm so looking forward to Kingsman. The 2nd and 3rd trailers were just expertly made.

The Kula Shaker song from the trailer has been my jam for the last few days. Hope the film does well- critically, it's tracking a little better than Kick-Ass right now, which was also from Vaughn, and I loved.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Channing Tatum was in "Jupiter Ascending"? From the trailers I've seen here and there, I vaguely remember seeing Mila Kunis, but not Channing. I could swear that the guy I saw was Robert Downey, Jr.

they took a guy who's best asset is probably his looks and made him look like something out of Space Cases

 

[kswiston]

they took a guy who's best asset is probably his looks and made him look like something out of Space Cases

Is that the Black Ranger on the left?

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

Is that the Black Ranger on the left?

Yes.

Antidotal evidence but the movie theatre where I work already have multple sell-outs for 50 shades since like Friday.

Anyone who thinks 50 Shades isn't going to make bank opening weekend is crazy. It won't have strong legs, but it'll double it's supposed 40 million budget immediately.

 

[March of the Crabs]

Glad Spongebob is doing well. It was a genuinely hilarious movie (thanks to the fact that it had the writers from seasons 1-3) and the fact that it is 80% 2D warms my heart. If you liked the first 3 seasons of the show, go see it.

 

[John Harker]

Jupiter Ascending is the only bad movie they've made though.

How was it bad?
I don't get it, it looked great and had the right amount of silly and a decent amount of subversion to it's intellect. Was rather enjoyable.

Awkward marketing though

 

[Dabanton]

I can't see this movie doing well. It's one think to read a BDSM book and no one will know. It's a complete other thing to go out in public and be seen buying a ticket and going into a theater for it.

I do think it will do crazy sales on home media for this reason.

Lol this isn't the 1950's. This stuff is mainstream now.

 

[AdventureRacing]

I don't think the problem for jupiter ascending was just the awkward marketing so much as the lack there of. I remember seeing trailers for it at the beginning of 2014 (and maybe late 2013 can't remember) but that's about the last i heard of it. This is coming from someone who probably went to the movies 80+ times last year. This is basically a silent release, anyone i ask about it has no idea what i'm talking about.

 

[vareon]

How was it bad?
I don't get it, it looked great and had the right amount of silly and a decent amount of subversion to it's intellect. Was rather enjoyable.

Awkward marketing though

I enjoyed what I saw, but the love story was embarrassing.

 

[John Bender]

The Wachowski pile-on in here is hilarious. I guess I live in an alternate reality where Cloud Atlas was a terrible movie.

Cloud Atlas was pure garbage!

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

50 Shades was doomed the minute they didn't cast Kristen Stewart and Robert Patterson.

 

[E the Shaggy]

Oh my God, the sheer nerd rage I've been seeing from people talking about how no one saw Jupiter Ascending, and how everyone deserves "shitty remakes and sequels" because of it, is absurd.

Yes, I want to see more original movies, but not shitty ones.

 

[Fox Mulder]

I knew Jupiter would bomb. Channings gotee, eye makeup and ears told me.

It was Mila Kunis for me.

 

[Korigama]

Is that the Black Ranger on the left?

Yes.

In additional trivia, the rainbow-haired girl later went on to reappear in Firefly and Serenity as Kaylee.

It was Mila Kunis for me.

Same. I simply didn't buy Mila Kunis as the lead in a sci-fi story, let alone a space opera. And apparently, no one else did either.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

I saw SpongeBob and it was far better than I expected, even liking the show.

I only watch the show sporadically as my kids watch it, and I thought later seasons were pretty bad. But the movie is pretty hilarious.

 

[Bizazedo]

Speed Racer was great in the theater, but I have no idea how it would be any good at home. The visuals and sounds demanded a huge theater.

 

[BronsonLee]

Cloud Atlas was pure garbage!

How dare you

 

[MoeDabs]

How was it bad?
I don't get it, it looked great and had the right amount of silly and a decent amount of subversion to it's intellect. Was rather enjoyable.

Awkward marketing though

Goofy visuals, awkward dialogue, action set pieces that existed soley to have suspense and explosions. Thats just off the top of my head. I don't regret watching it, but I can't see myself recommending it or watching it again.

 

[Busty]

“The Wachowkis have an incredible history of making fan favorite films,” said Jeff Goldstein, Warner Bros. distribution executive vice president. “This didn’t hit the wide audience their films have in the past, but they’ll do better in the future.”

Wachowski Siblings doing a new Matrix trilogy or DCU project for Warner Bros confirmed.

 

[BronsonLee]

Wachowski Siblings doing a new Matrix trilogy or DCU project for Warner Bros confirmed.

I'd make them do DCU stuff for a while to earn some goodwill back and reign them in creatively, because fucking Jesus

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

I have a feeling they'll try to give them something guaranteed to be a hit like a DC movie.

Wachowski Siblings doing a new Matrix trilogy or DCU project for Warner Bros confirmed.

I'd make them do DCU stuff for a while to earn some goodwill back and reign them in creatively, because fucking Jesus

Christ, it's like you guys want the DCCU to fail or something...

 

[duckroll]

Christ, it's like you guys want the DCCU to fail or something...

Don't need to want it. It'll fail on its own by virtue of being DC.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Don't need to want it. It'll fail on its own by virtue of being DC.

True, but adding the Wachowskis to the mix would only exacerbate the problem.