Wkd Box Office 04•01-03•16 - BvS has 'worse legs than Barbara Gordon' -- Sibersk Esto

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Bobby's avatars over the years didn't give it away?
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I imagine the meetings WB execs are having right now all look exactly like a replay of the pig roast scene in Lisa the Vegetarian.

Why are you assuming Warner execs care to or even know how to do their jobs?! This studio rewards failure! Speed Racer craters? Here's another 150 million for Jupiter Ascending thankyouverymuch!
 
I would never take my kid to see BvS. It is simply too dark and adult themed.
And there in lies the problem.
 
Problem with BvS isn't the adult themed or seriousness. It's that it doesn't make much sense.

Well, that's the big thing for adults. You can do adult themed. The Dark Knight was adult themed. But most of it doesn't make any sense.
Can you even remember what the hell Eisenberg was on about aside from putting candy in someone's mouth?
I was watching intently, and had no idea what the fuck he was saying the first 2 minutes he was on screen.
How's your average, non-invested viewer supposed to follow it? Let alone the children in the audience.
When your big centre piece of the story, the one thing that ties it all together, is unintelligible and wacky, you have a problem.
 
Well, that's the big thing for adults. You can do adult themed. The Dark Knight was adult themed. But most of it doesn't make any sense.
Can you even remember what the hell Eisenberg was on about aside from putting candy in someone's mouth?
I was watching intently, and had no idea what the fuck he was saying the first 2 minutes he was on screen.
How's your average, non-invested viewer supposed to follow it? Let alone the children in the audience.
When your big centre piece of the story, the one thing that ties it all together, is unintelligible and wacky, you have a problem.
Hell, how about the fact that we have no idea what Lex's motivation for hating Superman is! Is he working for Darkseid? Did he only find out about Darkseid at the end in that deleted scene? Is he just super insecure? Is he doing this to defend humanity or prove his superiority?

Either this is a fault of the editing, or he is just as poorly conceived as Superman in these movies in that we don't know what it is these characters want or believe in. Y'know, beyond how "Devils come from the sky" and "power is innocent".
 
Well, that's the big thing for adults. You can do adult themed. The Dark Knight was adult themed. But most of it doesn't make any sense.
Can you even remember what the hell Eisenberg was on aside from putting candy in someone's mouth?
I was watching intently, and had no idea what the fuck he was saying the first 2 minutes he was on screen.
How's your average, non-invested viewer supposed to follow it? Let alone the children in the audience.
When your big centre piece of the story, the one thing that ties it all together, is unintelligible and wacky, you have a problem.

Aren't we saying the same thing?

Forget everything else, I don't even know why Lois and Superman love each other so much from the movies.
 
Did you take your kids to see TDK?
The Dark Knight was 8 years ago... would the kid even have been born at that point if he's worried about this being too adult oriented?

Aren't we saying the same thing?

Forget everything else, I don't even know why Lois and Superman love each other so much from the movies.
It really is insane. That relationship comes out of fucking nowhere. They never have a real conversation to get to know each other outside the topic of him being a symbol, or an alien. They just kinda wanna bone eachother after like two scenes.
 
How much was the first Monday again? $15M?

So that's almost an 80% drop. Makes sense since yesterday was a regular Monday. How did F7 do comparatively in its 2nd Monday?

For comparison sake to

Fast 7 (I think April 13th (2nd monday):
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=fast7.htm


$3,639,980

-76.2% / -74%




Age of Ultron: (May 11th)
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=avengers2.htm

$5,398,779

-76.2% / -59.2%



Iron Man 3: (May 13th)
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=ironman3.htm


$4,615,742

-77.8% / -59%
 
Why are you assuming Warner execs care to or even know how to do their jobs?! This studio rewards failure! Speed Racer craters? Here's another 150 million for Jupiter Ascending thankyouverymuch!

Hey now, maybe WB execs are rightfully SR fans and thought the Wachs had another totally awesome in them.

They were wrong of course.
 
$3.1m is prstty terrible. Deadpool is going to close the gap by over $1M a day all week.

Actually, I don't remember, what was Deadpool's second Monday? I was waiting to see it in the comparison posted earlier.
 
It's not really small kid friendly much like the Nolan series. I don't see that as a problem at all. Marvel has that covered.
Problem is adult aimed movies are much more reliant on word of mouth and reviews to bring adults in unlike films kids want to see.
 
$4.5 million.

And that's $1.4 millions Deadpoll erored from BvS's advantage just on Monday, then.
It's totally going to tie BvS, release-aligned, in less than two weeks, isn't it?
 
Problem is adult aimed movies are much more reliant on word of mouth and reviews to bring adults in unlike films kids want to see.

TDK was pretty much a blockbuster out of the gate. So, no. Kids movies are just as reliant on WOM and reviews because adults bring the kids. Any movie needs WOM.
 
And that's $1.4 millions Deadpoll erored from BvS's advantage just on Monday, then.
It's totally going to tie BvS, release-aligned, in less than two weeks, isn't it?

If things dont pick up this weekend, its going to be a close race to $300M. If BvS ends the week on Sunday with $293M, it will hit $300M next Friday. Deadpool was $550K short of $300M that Friday.

In that scenario, Deadpool takes the gross to date lead by the Sunday of Jungle Books launch.
 
TDK was pretty much a blockbuster out of the gate. So, no. Kids movies are just as reliant on WOM and reviews because adults bring the kids. Any movie needs WOM.
TDK was huge out of the gate partially because of word of mouth from Batman Begins. Without the strong word of mouth of BB over 2005-2008 TDK wouldn't have done nearly as well. BB didn't set the boxoffice on fire but word spread that it was great and did very well on home video which helped give TDK the launch pad it bad.
 
TDK was huge out of the gate partially because of word of mouth from Batman Begins. Without the strong word of mouth of BB over 2005-2008 TDK wouldn't have done nearly as well. BB didn't set the boxoffice on fire but word spread that it was great and did very well on home video which helped give TDK the launch pad it bad.

TDK also had the publicity of Heath Ledger's tragic demise.
 
What if people are just bored with super hero movies?
And
Civil War
makes less money than this?

Oh yeah Deadpool nvm.
 
WB forcing this shared universe shit before actually making a decent comic book movie is gonna kill their Marvel aspirations.

Love or hate the Marvel movies, they put in a ton of world and character building before getting to a huge event like Civil War. WB coming out the gate with Man of Steel and jumping right into fucking Batman vs. Superman was supremely dumb.
 
What if people are just bored with super hero movies?
And
Civil War
makes less money than this?

Oh yeah Deadpool nvm.

Superhero fatigue doesn't explain shit legs. The film had the 4th best opening of all time for a superhero film. If people were getting sick of these films they wouldnt bother going in the first place.
 
WB forcing this shared universe shit before actually making a decent comic book movie is gonna kill their Marvel aspirations.

Love or hate the Marvel movies, they put in a ton of world and character building before getting to a huge event like Civil War. WB coming out the gate with Man of Steel and jumping right into fucking Batman vs. Superman was supremely dumb.
I'm not sure. Look at Civil War. Was there any introduction to Spider Man? Nope. Black Panter? Nope either.

I don't think it'sabout world building. The Batman v Superman set up worked well on it's own as jumping point for the whole franchise. None of those superhero characters is complex enough to require full movie of their own before team up. The quality of the movie is the only problem. If they would make a good BvS nobody would care about very fast pace of world building.
 
Kinda the perfect gaf name for this post tbph

People say this all the time but because movies are expensive, this is actually a huge disappointment in many ways.

Nah. It's just this one that's extremely expensive. Most superhero movies make very good money with 700 mln.
 
I'm not sure. Look at Civil War. Was there any introduction to Spider Man? Nope. Black Panter? Nope either.

I don't think it'sabout world building. The Batman v Superman set up worked well on it's own as jumping point for the whole franchise. None of those superhero characters is complex enough to require full movie of their own before team up. The quality of the movie is the only problem. If they would make a good BvS nobody would care about very fast pace of world building.

Spidey at this point doesn't need an introduction story any more though. For all we know, Black Panther could get a brief origin in the movie.

Meanwhile BvS tries to tell a Superman story while also introducing Batman & Wonder Woman, and also teasing Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman, and future Justice League stuff. BvS was so stuffed with "shared universe" stuff that even Iron Man 2 looks tame in comparison.
 
Spidey at this point doesn't need an introduction story any more though. For all we know, Black Panther could get a brief origin in the movie.

Meanwhile BvS tries to tell a Superman story while also introducing Batman & Wonder Woman, and also teasing Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman, and future Justice League stuff. BvS was so stuffed with "shared universe" stuff that even Iron Man 2 looks tame in comparison.

Guaridans managed to introduce five brand new characters nobody knew before in a single movie. And Batman needs even less introduction than Spiderman.

Cameos from small players on their own also aren't anything bad. They were just shoddily done. But honestly, if the core of the movie was good, nobody would give a damn. People would just think "this movie was awesome and they teased future awesomeness down the line.

People are overthinking the whole thing. BvS is having troubles because it's simply weak movie. Even today, in the era of constant world building and shared universe, in the end all that matters if it's a fun movie or not.
 
Looks like 3.1m for BvS on Monday.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Doubt that, bad movie is a bad movie, and WOM can kill any movie momentum..

in this age of social media, word of mouth spreads faster than ever. when those reviews come out and the reception is overwhelmingly negative, EVERYONE that is one social media is going to know about it. fast. and then they tell their friends who aren't on social media.
 
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