The idea is actually not that bad. Updike's last book was 'Widows oft Eastwick', the sequel to Witches which plays 30 years later. The Witches film will be 30 years ago in 2 years.
Go for it.
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Wkd Box Office 0522-2415 - Disney's house is clean, Tomorrow lands @ #1
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The idea is actually not that bad. Updike's last book was 'Widows oft Eastwick', the sequel to Witches which plays 30 years later. The Witches film will be 30 years ago in 2 years.
Go for it.
Nappuccino
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The movie went over budget way early into filming as well. MMFR was known to be a troubled shoot from nearly the beginning.
I think if they made another, they could probably knock the budget down to 100mil and be almost as good.
Corpsepyre
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To be honest, even if they decide not to make another Mad Max, I'll be Ok with the decision. I never expected them to make another Mad Max EVER, or that this would ever come out even considering all the shit the movie went through. Let it be a single, one time only slap on a Hollywood action director's face. A big one.
TacticalFox88
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Tomorrowland with 190 million budget?!
Literally NOTHING on the screen screams this had a high budget. It was 100 million at best. AT BEST
Literally NOTHING on the screen screams this had a high budget. It was 100 million at best. AT BEST
agreed. No compelling reason for me to be interested in this film based on the teasers and trailers I've seen. Mediocre reviews aren't helping either.
Corpsepyre
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An argument can be made that excessive trailers would ruin a movie's plot, like they normally do.
WyndhamPrice
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Even if Mad Max isn't some massive financial success it's already made a fairly sizable cultural footprint which is more than a lot of "blockbusters" can say.
They should at least establish a premise. I still don't know what it's about. A girl picks up a pin, George Clooney appears and takes her to the future? No conflict or anything, it's just nonsense. Making trailers with a bunch of random, disconnected images doesn't work unless your movie is Star Wars.
Yeah the trailers made me not interested, and I was like 'sure why not' when other people wanted to go see it.
WyndhamPrice
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Fury Road took so long to get made he wrote a screenplay for another sequel (called "Mad Max: The Wasteland") and a treatment for a potential 6th film.
Haven't seen Tomorrowland, but always a shame to see an original film that is not a sequel or reboot not doing well. I think it looks very interesting and I like that the trailers for Tomorrowland are keeping a lot under wraps imho. Too many trailers for films reveal the whole plot already and spoil big setpieces.
Spy is up there in terms of horrid marketing. Difference being giving the wrong clues instead oft none.
WyndhamPrice
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I think in Tomorrowland's case the "mystery" backfired big time. Nobody knew what the movie was actually about or supposed to be.
Sin Tun-tun, ya no quiero ver esa película.
What "cultural footprint" are you talking about? I watched it based on all the positive reviews and thought it was meh. I haven't seen the 80s movies so I'm probably missing some back story, but Mad Max didn't really do anything for me.
Think that's what doomed them at the end. I know you don't want to reveal key moments but keeping Tomorrowland a mystery might have backfired.
Dat Tomorrowland bomba
Ant-man coming up too..... ( ‾ʖ̫‾
No, we're not playing this game.
Alright boys, go watch it a 3rd, 4th, or 5th time.
God yes, that is a solid day at the movies.
See Ex Machina first, though, or you'll leave feeling really heavy.
Right. The big issue is that they went too far with the mystery box aspect of the trailers. I know that's how a lot of the Bad Robot alumni operate, but this was excessive even by their standards.
Worldwide Updates:
Furious 7 - $1.499B
Avengers: Age of Ultron - $1.264B
Mad Max: Fury Road - $212M
Pitch Perfect 2 - $187M
Cinderella - $526M
The Maze Runner - $344M (I think this finally opened in Japan)
Home - $360M
Tomorrowland - $59M
EDIT: Beaten to most of these by Xaosslug's update!
Furious 7 - $1.499B
Avengers: Age of Ultron - $1.264B
Mad Max: Fury Road - $212M
Pitch Perfect 2 - $187M
Cinderella - $526M
The Maze Runner - $344M (I think this finally opened in Japan)
Home - $360M
Tomorrowland - $59M
EDIT: Beaten to most of these by Xaosslug's update!
At least it made back its budget.
NealMcCauley
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Kinda shrugged Tomorrowland off when I read a blurb saying it was Disney's potential Harry Potter. Even in the few cryptic ads I saw it looked like a rip off.
alfredofroylan
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Please remember, movies don't take 100% of the box office money. In the USA they took a bigger chunck than the international market (again sometimes they just got 30-40% of the box office there)
The studio is only going to receive 40-45% of the worldwide take.
At least the US take should end up being pretty good given its opening. By the end of tomorrow it will be at ~$95M, so a finish in the $135-150M range looks doable.
It has to clear the marketing budget, which I can't imagine to be insubstantial at all. I think it'll be an unfortunately disappointing outcome, but not one where it's going to ruin careers.
Looks like Home did good, thank god.
Corpsepyre
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You're a minority, but that's cool.
You answered your question in the sentence right after.
Mad Max could have a had a relatively okay WW run if they had managed to release it in China. At this point I think it's looking at 350M WW which considering the budget isn't that great. Not a disaster but doesn't really give me hope for a sequel.
Also Home badly underperformed in overseas market, kind of a meh results overall. I'm not sure Dreamworks is very happy with it.
Who's the second one? Brad Bird and? I'm blanking on a recent Disney bomb from another Pixar alum :|
Also Home badly underperformed in overseas market, kind of a meh results overall. I'm not sure Dreamworks is very happy with it.
Who's the second one? Brad Bird and? I'm blanking on a recent Disney bomb from another Pixar alum :|
SmackAttack
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Poor Tomorrowland. The initial trailer showed some promise. I'll still see it, but after I see Mad Max (tomorrow finally, for my dad's birthday) and AoU again.
Andrew Stanton with John Carter
Mad Max Fury Road is a fantastic movie that does extensive characterization and world-building without extraneous exposition while still having a laser focus on its main plot. The action scenes are visually astounding, using creative set pieces, great practical effects, and steady camera-work. The movie has tons of subtle touches that add thematic depth and let you notice new things on rewatches. The pacing is exquisite, never dragging in the same way some other action movies do.
Oh yeah, and it's ABSURDLY BADASS.
It's a real shame it isn't doing better, but I'm telling everyone I see to go see the movie.
alfredofroylan
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Andrew Stanton with John Carter
of Mars¨
Well they might be able to sell a sequel by focusing on how much better production will go the second time around.
Good to know
Good to know
You don't need to know anything about the previous films to see Fury Road is a good movie. The only explanation needed is that not every movie works for everyone.
The Auxiliary
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Looks like DVD sales and the awards season might have to step up to save Mad Max's sequel prospects if it doesn't make enough money at the box office.
Charles Foster Kane
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I have never seen any of the other Mad Max movies, and until I couple of weeks ago I didn't even know they existed. I thought it was great. I don't think it requires any prior knowledge to be appreaciated.
I'm sure it will at least do great on DVD. My hear twill break if it is another Dredd situation.
I don't think he's the type to leave animation for even one film, but I hope that Pete Docter doesn't find out the hard way if he ever does.
alfredofroylan
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It really helped with Dredd and Edge of Tomorrow..... well not really. This whole DVD sales is a tricky thing, the only movie I remember that got a sequel due excellent DVD-Blu ray sales recently is Kick Ass and that only because they keep a small $28M budget for the film.
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The death of Paul Walker played a lot into this.
Yeah, pretty safe bet Fury Road will be a cult classic for years to come. Dredd has a vocal following too but that film didn't just bomb at the BO, it cratered.
I agree. Maybe it comes across as a cheap excuse to wave away its success but it's pretty clear it ended up boosting the movie.
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