PhoncipleBone
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You left out superhero fatigue as a reason.
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Wkd Box Office 0522-2415 - Disney's house is clean, Tomorrow lands @ #1
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ViewtifulJC
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Man of Steel/Nolan "real film" fans FROM THE RAFTERS OUT OF NOWHERE BAH GOD KING
People were very excited for this movie, you can tell the excitement diminished greatly after the movie. The real test of the MCU is what comes next, will Ant-Man do IM3 numbers post avengers? Time will tell.
Civil War can be good though, I loved Winter Soldier (until the very end, which went dumb) the Russos do make good movies.
Seems like a bad weekend across the board numbers wise. Jurassic World should have released memorial day weekend against competition this weak.
Everyone I know thought Tomorrowland looked terrible from the trailers. What is it about? I still can't tell you after watching every trailer. I thought Ghost Protocol was great, but Brad Bird messed up choosing this to be his second movie.
Everyone I know thought Tomorrowland looked terrible from the trailers. What is it about? I still can't tell you after watching every trailer. I thought Ghost Protocol was great, but Brad Bird messed up choosing this to be his second movie.
It's was ok. I'd give it an 8/10 that's fair. But it certainly wasn't as good as Avengers 1. It's one of the weaker marvel movies for me.
Ya, Superheroes are done.
Last year, superhero films based on Marvel properties earned $3.5B worldwide. This year, superhero films films based on Marvel properties will earn $2-2.5B worldwide.
Based on my extrapolation of this trend, Marvel, Sony, and Fox will be paying audiences $500M-2500M in 2018 to see their superhero films.
Meanwhile, based on the same trend extrapolation, Furious 9 will be earning $4.3B in 2019. I expect Universal to use their Fast and Furious money to buy Disney by 2025.
You can't argue with the math!
Why on earth would you expect Ant-Man to do IM3 numbers? AoU could do 2 billion and Ant-Man wouldn't do IM3 numbers.
I doubt Antman will make IM3 numbers. C'mon now. Then again, Guardians...
Best to ignore him. He hates Marvel films and hates people who like them.
BronsonLee
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Wait, so Mad Max is >200m now?? I'm happy.
Ant-man will only need about a third of what Iron Man 3 did to be in a break-even position.
Marvel's not going to score $700M on every film they make, especially on the new properties. If the name brand can keep films from bombing outright, they have a fairly risk free method of establishing new franchises.
There's a reason why WB is doubling down on superhero films. Look at the hit to miss ratio of $150M+ superhero flicks compared to $150M+ original properties.
Marvel's not going to score $700M on every film they make, especially on the new properties. If the name brand can keep films from bombing outright, they have a fairly risk free method of establishing new franchises.
There's a reason why WB is doubling down on superhero films. Look at the hit to miss ratio of $150M+ superhero flicks compared to $150M+ original properties.
BronsonLee
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What If Mad Max Was Part Of The DCU Cinematic Universe?
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I foresee Thor numbers. Between 400-500 million.
Worldwide? I wouldn't. Cap 1 made like $370M.
The last 6 superhero films have each made more than $90M in China alone. The only major ($100M+ budget) superhero film that has missed the $100M domestic mark in the past 10 years was Green Hornet (which is better know as a 60s TV hero than a comic book character), and even that miss was by less than $2M.
Chances are, even on the low end, Ant-Man will clear $200M between the domestic and Chinese box offices alone. It's not hard to make $170M in the rest of the world, especially when most of Asia and Latin America are very receptive to superhero properties. A lot has changed since Thor 1/Cap 1.
Probably, but domestic is becoming a poor barometer of success taken in isolation.
I would say Worldwide will be 400-500mil. So it's not entirely off. But Thor 1 would be comparable.
I doubt Sony's spider-verse will ever see the light of day.
Never.
True, the Need for Speed movie unperformed here but did gangbusters internationally. Hence it's getting a sequel.
exmachina64
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You mean I can earn more than minimum wage by watching superhero movies?!
I'm so hype!
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You want mad max to be successful you need to take all your loved ones with you, and teach them about the values of watching good movies. As it stands, we're all doing a terrible job.
I'd wager people are just not interested in the concept, it seems
Mad Max is doing incredibly well, the response with everyone here declaring it's bombing seems to come from people who don't realize this is a Tangled-style production with the budget artificially inflated thanks to several restarts. If Mad Max makes 135M DOM (which looks extremely likely), it's a hit for WB.
Also, LOL Tomorrowland will make less in four days than Mad Max made in three.
Also, LOL Tomorrowland will make less in four days than Mad Max made in three.
Boxofficemojo's current shitshow of a state is a sad thing to see. Fucking imdb.
Anyway...At least MM didn't tumble into some massive 60%+ drop, so that's a "win" there. Whatever. Hollywood has fucked up the tastebuds of the mainstream with their constant stream of liquid mediocrity. People can't even recognize when something great is unleashed upon them.
Anyway...At least MM didn't tumble into some massive 60%+ drop, so that's a "win" there. Whatever. Hollywood has fucked up the tastebuds of the mainstream with their constant stream of liquid mediocrity. People can't even recognize when something great is unleashed upon them.
ViewtifulJC
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We've banned talk of "fatigue" for films that make A BILLION DOLLARS WORLDWIDE
Like its such a nothing talking point. A movie might only be in the top ten highest grossing movies ever! Where did things go wrong? Do people just hate superhero movies now? Lets talk about this guyz
Who wanted an Edge of Tomorrow sequel?
twinturbo2
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After John Carter and The Lone Ranger, it seems like some kind of addiction on Disney's part.
twinturbo2
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I still haven't seen Fury Road (I don't know if I need to see the original trilogy to fully appreciate Fury Road), but movies in general would kill for that kind of drop.
WyndhamPrice
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While I did enjoy John Carter more than most people I honestly wonder what is happening on the creative side of Disney for live action stuff that isn't Marvel or Pirates of the Caribbean.
They seem to hire the right people and then just totally fuck up the landing with these movies.
You don't need to see the originals, but if you watch any of them I'd recommend The Road Warrior.
BronsonLee
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I haven't seen any Mad Max movies besides Fury Road. You're good.
Discotheque
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Don't give this place any ideas. Notthegiyuoukill already queuing up the thread as we speak
It's a god damn shame how high furious 7 and avengers is while fury road barely chugs along. It felt like a throwback to when action movies were well and truly great. I'm glad I got to see it in theaters tho for sure.
Miller might as well make a dc movie too just to clown on the shitty directors these days some more
Live action fairy tales are working out but Lone Ranger, Carter and now Tomorrowland I think can be blamed on marketing. Or Lone Ranger's case, editing.
twinturbo2
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Well, it's official.
George Miller needs to direct Fast & Furious 8.
George Miller needs to direct Fast & Furious 8.
You don't. I only watched the first movie and it has little to do with Fury Road. Fury Road works fine as a self-contained story.
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You are my favorite poster in MCU threads
Messofanego
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How can Tomorrowland be aimed at kids when the rating classification is 12 and above? I don't see what's kiddy about it. None of the characters are even kids.
Looking for stuff about ratings, I found this website that gives parents guides for movies and it's pretty funny:
https://www.commonsensemedia.org/movie-reviews/tomorrowland
WyndhamPrice
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I was thinking about marketing too. They either have zero confidence in the actual content of the film (John Carter) or too much confidence (Tomorrowland's mystery box) and either way the audience doesn't have enough information and doesn't know why they should be seeing the movie.
Lone Ranger actually has a lot going for it but you're right, it's half an hour too long. What a waste of an amazing train chase
Can Crusher
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I'm sorry but there was no fucking way MM was ever going to be a major hit, which was reason enough for WB to not fuck with it and let the R happen. At best they hope for enough commercial success and a lot of critical praise, so that those involved have a reason to let Miller make another one.
Movie didn't exactly redefine the genre, despite how great of an action movie it is. Expecting some sort of cultural phenomenon from it seems naive, even for the most hardcore action fan out there.
It's rated PG in the states, and a lot of the later marketing went after families.
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