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Wkd Box Office 0612-1415 - It's Jurassic World, we all just live in it, dino-might!
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Charles Foster Kane
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I think Avatar is unmemorable and mostly mediocre, but JW is even more so. Avatar's mediocrity is mostly due to characters and story.
There is no way the action in JW is better than the one in Avatar.
There is no way the action in JW is better than the one in Avatar.
The action in Avatar trumps Jurassic World. Cameron knows action. He knows pacing, building tension, building set pieces, and pay off. And he proved it with Terminator 1 and 2, True Lies, Aliens, and proved it again with Avatar. Unfortunately, aside from the action and the special effects, everything else in Avatar was a huge huge disappointment. Jurassic World, if we are going to do this, was more fun than Avatar, but that depends on your love for dinosaurs. I loved the finale of Jurassic World more than Avatar due to my lifelong love of dinos. And this is why JW is making so much cash: the nostalgia and it hitting the innate love of dinosaurs from people all over the world. I just want Cameron to do something outside of Avatar. Or at least make the Avatar world interesting.
BronsonLee
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Wait WHAT
BronsonLee
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Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
I don't see how anyone could say it's better.
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SCULLIBUNDO
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When people say everything else in JW was better outside of the action and effects, are they using the word 'effects' so they don't have to admit things like production design, art direction, the score (and this is coming from somebody that habitually gives Horner shit for recycling and loves Giacc), editing, sound effects and basically just the overall direction?
Because we get it. You don't like the story. Plenty of people don't. But Avatar destroys Jurassic World in every other department without question.
And even then I still think Avatar's trope-filled story is better.
Because we get it. You don't like the story. Plenty of people don't. But Avatar destroys Jurassic World in every other department without question.
And even then I still think Avatar's trope-filled story is better.
Nah bro. Cameron tried too hard.
cartoon_soldier
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I enjoyed JW more than Avatar. I would say as a whole it is a better movie (JW).
*shrugs*
*shrugs*
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
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Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Yeah.
ViewtifulJC
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Sculli, jett, Dead, Ryutaro's Mama...who's the other guy/girl, I'm forgetting one
(Avatar > JW btw)
Discotheque
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If only we could have replaced sam worthington with not-fat chris pratt. Casting in that movie is mad questionable tbh, like why was that dorky looking sloth from dodgeball in it?
That and also the fact that I don't find the creatures or navi anywhere near as aesthetically appealing as the dinosaurs in jurassic world (not a fan of cameron's Tye-dye vision for Pandora tbh)
But the action and setpieces eclipse jurassic world by a huge magnitude. Hell I don't think a big Hollywood action sequence topped that climax for years until fury road hit imo
Everything in avatar is better than jurassic world (even story and acting because while it is simple it isn't done poorly) except for Art design
That and also the fact that I don't find the creatures or navi anywhere near as aesthetically appealing as the dinosaurs in jurassic world (not a fan of cameron's Tye-dye vision for Pandora tbh)
But the action and setpieces eclipse jurassic world by a huge magnitude. Hell I don't think a big Hollywood action sequence topped that climax for years until fury road hit imo
Everything in avatar is better than jurassic world (even story and acting because while it is simple it isn't done poorly) except for Art design
crisdecuba
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Jurassic World has dinosaurs. I enjoyed JW more than Avatar (which is not to say Avatar was bad).
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It's easy enough to walk away
The only time I got banned was talking about... early release of a DC DTV many years ago
Good thing went completely legit
Which one would that be? lol
This is like trying to prove which pop song is better.
Avatar just wasn't fun to me and even the action sequences didn't make much impact; it became more evident over time. I liked the big tree falling down (done better in Titanic with the ship splitting in half), and that was about it. The flying around, explosions, and mech knife fight left me completely cold; but a lot of it could be because I found the movie itself to be like trudging through mud. I'm generally a huge James Cameron fan too. T2, Aliens, Titanic, and even True Lies are classics in my book. Avatar though, not for me at all.
I like JP dinosaurs more than I like Disney-esque Pandora. I found the general tone and action to be better presented. JW was leaner, and better paced, and I even liked the cast better.
Jurassic World was an effective movie with the same flaws many action films have. But to me JW didn't feel its 2 hour length at all, but Avatar was a 2.5 hour film that felt like a 3 hour slog.
Avatar just wasn't fun to me and even the action sequences didn't make much impact; it became more evident over time. I liked the big tree falling down (done better in Titanic with the ship splitting in half), and that was about it. The flying around, explosions, and mech knife fight left me completely cold; but a lot of it could be because I found the movie itself to be like trudging through mud. I'm generally a huge James Cameron fan too. T2, Aliens, Titanic, and even True Lies are classics in my book. Avatar though, not for me at all.
I like JP dinosaurs more than I like Disney-esque Pandora. I found the general tone and action to be better presented. JW was leaner, and better paced, and I even liked the cast better.
Jurassic World was an effective movie with the same flaws many action films have. But to me JW didn't feel its 2 hour length at all, but Avatar was a 2.5 hour film that felt like a 3 hour slog.
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The one that a few people have to evangelize for every time it's mentioned anywhere.
PhoncipleBone
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And don't post pics from sites that might change to goatse. That is how I got got years ago. My only ban. And it was in a Roger Ebert thread of all things.The moral of the story is to avoid getting into heated arguments about race, gender, religion, politics, or sexuality on GAF. State your opinion. If someone gets under your skin, abandon the thread. That's my strategy for ban-free living
Right here, buddy!
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
wut? lol
SCULLIBUNDO
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What's a ban?
Did Bobby get his ego checked again?
Did Bobby get his ego checked again?
BronsonLee
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...Jurassic World?
Will we ever get another big dinosaur IP?
Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter and Narnia are kind of in a challenge
Pixar and DreamWorks had that same same but different run
Hunger Games has Maze Runner
and there is Star Trek/ Star Wars/ Alien and a bunch of others in space.
But dinos? There was that cartoon, the Dinotopia TV series. Thats pretty much it.
Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter and Narnia are kind of in a challenge
Pixar and DreamWorks had that same same but different run
Hunger Games has Maze Runner
and there is Star Trek/ Star Wars/ Alien and a bunch of others in space.
But dinos? There was that cartoon, the Dinotopia TV series. Thats pretty much it.
igordennis
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The Land Before Time.
cartoon_soldier
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Chris Pratt doesn't become a dinosaur in JW to save the dinosaurs
BronsonLee
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Did you just spoil the damn movie for me?!
cartoon_soldier
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which one...*whistle*
Gambit 1138
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JW does circles around that predictable, bloated and pretentious piece of shit known as avatar
BronsonLee
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SON OF A
Got relegated to DVD shovelware. Not really big anymore.
Did Avatar also cater to a niche audience?
Wafflecakes
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I bet a full reboot would do very well.
A lot of people have very fond memories of the original film.
If it weren't for its insane box office gross, which inevitably causes it to be mentioned in threads like this, I'm certain Avatar wouldn't be discussed at all. For all the talk about how competently it was made, or how incredible its action sequences were (they personally did nothing for me), the movie ultimately had no impact on the movie going public.That is really the most amazing thing about it: how few people give a shit about it.
cartoon_soldier
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Didn't have anything GIF worthy basically
The Good Dinosaur is coming this November.
I'm starting to get a bit tired of the Mad Max fan wank. It's a phenomenal film in just about every respect but it's almost too well balanced. The action is leagues ahead of most modern films from a technical point of view but the movie isn't very suspenseful and the action lacks marked highs and lows.
And that's not even a mark against the film because I don't think that was Miller's aim. He wasn't trying to make an action thrill ride, he was trying to tell a story and build a world with action set pieces supplementing the plot. I don't think the action in Mad Max was the driving (heh) force behind the film at all. To put it another way, I wouldn't sell someone on Mad Max by describing the action as the hook, I'd describe the world building, complex characters, and impeccable editing. This is why people jerking off over the action in Mad Max confuses me, because it's like they didn't take the time to think about the film at all. It's like because Mad Max is arguably the best film so far this year, it obviously has to also have the best action. I simply don't think that's true.
Land Before Time is equal to Jurassic Park for me, nostalgia be dammed.
And that's not even a mark against the film because I don't think that was Miller's aim. He wasn't trying to make an action thrill ride, he was trying to tell a story and build a world with action set pieces supplementing the plot. I don't think the action in Mad Max was the driving (heh) force behind the film at all. To put it another way, I wouldn't sell someone on Mad Max by describing the action as the hook, I'd describe the world building, complex characters, and impeccable editing. This is why people jerking off over the action in Mad Max confuses me, because it's like they didn't take the time to think about the film at all. It's like because Mad Max is arguably the best film so far this year, it obviously has to also have the best action. I simply don't think that's true.
Land Before Time is equal to Jurassic Park for me, nostalgia be dammed.
Wafflecakes
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I chalk that up to its lack of lore and universe building.
One of the things that keeps people engaged in a series is the story and larger plot. The lack of this hurts interest when compared to properties like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, etc.
I feel like if they had made a concerted effort to build the Avatar Universe after the movie it would have far more buzz.
It's funny as hell people using Jurassic World of all movies to prop up against Avatar. People sure like their dinosaurs. Fake-ass "dinosaurs" in this movie's case, anyway.
No doubt. When you think about James Cameron, first thing that comes to mind is "Man, that James Cameron sure is pretentious."
And you're totally right. Colin Trevorrow, an absolute nobody, crafts and executes action sequences better than the pretentious douche responsible for Aliens, Terminator, Terminator 2 and True Lies. That Colin Trevorrow, what a genius, that guy. He will user a new era of cinematic revolution, I say. A Pre and Post-Trevorrow age, if you will.
No doubt. When you think about James Cameron, first thing that comes to mind is "Man, that James Cameron sure is pretentious."
And you're totally right. Colin Trevorrow, an absolute nobody, crafts and executes action sequences better than the pretentious douche responsible for Aliens, Terminator, Terminator 2 and True Lies. That Colin Trevorrow, what a genius, that guy. He will user a new era of cinematic revolution, I say. A Pre and Post-Trevorrow age, if you will.
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