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Wkd Box Office 08•22-24•14 - Guardian of the Box Office, it's just not Miller time

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Squalor

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Harrison Ford and Tom Cruise are the most impressive on that list, considering that neither of them have endless amounts of animated movies and supporting roles to pad their resumes. Cruise also has only one real franchise to milk.
They're most impressive because the bulk of their gross didn't come when movie tickets were nearly $15 a ticket.
 
Screen Digest posted this list recently. Some of you may be interested

THE 20 BIGGEST OVERSEAS MARKETS

1. China $3.6B
2. Japan $2.4B
3. United Kingdom $1.7B
4. France $1.6B
5. India $1.5B
6. South Korea $1.4B
7. Russia $1.4B
8. Germany $1.3B
9. Australia $1.1B
10. Mexico $0.9B
11. Brazil $0.9B
12. Italy $0.8B
13. Spain $0.7B
14. Argentina $0.4B
15. Netherlands $0.3B
16. Turkey $0.3B
17. Taiwan $0.3B
18. Sweden $0.2B
19. Switzerland $0.2B
20. Malaysia $0.2B

- This counts both foreign grosses of Hollywood movies AND local films (as should be evidenced by India's standings since Hollywood films make shit all there)

- Germany and Australia are going to fall out of the Top 10 in a year or two, as both Mexico and Brazil are seeing big annual growth.

- China's film market has been growing by 20-30% each year. If that rate keeps up, it might challenge the domestic box office as the largest market within a decade(Currently $10.5-11B including grosses from Canada).

I'm surprised that Australia is that high considering that there's less than 24M people here. But interest in cinema was been decreasing here - people are prefering to watch movies at home more and more, especially with the overpriced tickets.
 

jmdajr

Member
Can you look up how many movies Nic Cage has done?

Wow 55. I thought it be more! He's coming close though to Sam Jackson numbers.
 
What's so weird, is that when the Sin City trailer was dropped, I linked it on Facebook and tons of my friends responded really positively. "Aw shiiit, fucking finally!".

A bunch of us is going to see it this friday when it drops in Sweden, maybe it will do better overseas.

People talk about how no one has cared about a sequel, but I've been spending tons of hours every year just keeping track on the movie. It even got to a point on imdb when SIn City 3 had an estimated release-date before Sin City 2. When they did finally announce to filming Sin City 2, it did feel like I had spent one year too long waiting and keeping track of it.
 
I believe from what I know is Disney can use those characters for Meet & Greet for WDW. However the master license agreement for characters at Universal mentions they can't use the Marvel name in advertising. So Disney is doing what it does best re-appropriating.

I find that (and all of the other contractual restrictions Disney + Marvel has film-wise) incredibly strange.

You would logically think that, since Disney completely owns Marvel, they could freely utilise Marvel branding and Marvel characters.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
Samuel Jackson is gonna be the all-time top grossing actor after the Avengers releases next year. He has a bunch of movies coming up, too. It doesn't say much given how many movies he does, but it will be a feat nonetheless.

From BoxOfficeMojo.com

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Ford will leap frog him after Star Wars runs in 3 movie course, so long as he's apart of all 3.
 
My hype for Sin City 2 was from 2005-2008. And unless it's a really beloved movie franchise (Men In Black, Indiana Jones, etc) you're asking for trouble releasing a sequel (although the stories in SC2 are prequels of the first film's stories I believe) almost 10 years after the original. That, and I'm sure the advancements in film making and technology didn't make this film stand out to summer movie goers. It probably would have been smarter to release this later in the year.
 
Ford will leap frog him after Star Wars runs in 3 movie course, so long as he's apart of all 3.

Oh, but Sammy will be in Avengers 2, Captain America 3, and he might also be recruiting the new heroes as well, (Capt. Marvel, Black Panther, Dr. Strange), and then after that there is Avengers 3, and maybe a Black Widow/Hawkeye movie so I don't know if leapfrog is what he'll be doing.
 

X05

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Oh, but Sammy will be in Avengers 2, Captain America 3, and he might also be recruiting the new heroes as well, (Capt. Marvel, Black Panther, Dr. Strange), and then after that there is Avengers 3, and maybe a Black Widow/Hawkeye movie so I don't know if leapfrog is what he'll be doing.
That BOM list is kinda weird though, I understand not counting IM1, Thor and Ep1, but it's for some reason not counting his role in Jurassic Park or Ep2 which is quite strange to me.
 
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles took in $15.5 million, bringing its total to $93.2 million. It has yet to open in most major markets.

TMNT will do really well when it expands to the rest of the major markets. Not surprising.

Lucy

Production Budget: $40 million

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $114,042,815 52.5%
+ Foreign: $103,000,000 47.5%
= Worldwide: $217,042,815

Lucy is making good money.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
That BOM list is kinda weird though, I understand not counting IM1, Thor and Ep1, but it's for some reason not counting his role in Jurassic Park or Ep2 which is quite strange to me.

Maybe they have to be consider a lead or co-lead for the list? Somehow I didnt even know Jackson was in Jurassic Park until it was pointed out to me. I thought it was just a random no name actor, its so different from his normal role.
 
The wife and I saw The Giver last weekend. Based on reviews and being fans of the book, we anticipated it would make for good dinner/wine conversation to rip it apart. However, after the movie ended, we looked at each other and simultaneously said, "You know, I actually really enjoyed that."

1. Jeff Bridges as the Giver is great casting.

2. Several major reviews (Slate/The Guardian) via Rotten Tomatoes reference a love triangle. Well, there simply isn't one. There is more romance compared to the book, however it's no Hunger Games and is essentially the C-plot.

3. A large part of the movie is in B&W unlike the trailers imply.

4. It's an appropriately tight 90 minutes. Just like Katie Holmes' ass.

I will not say it's the ultimate adaptation the book deserves, but it still gets the job done well. Would recommend.
 

Toth

Member
The wife and I saw The Giver last weekend. Based on reviews and being fans of the book, we anticipated it would make for good dinner/wine conversation to rip it apart. However, after the movie ended, we looked at each other and simultaneously said, "You know, I actually really enjoyed that."

1. Jeff Bridges as the Giver is great casting.

2. Several major reviews (Slate/The Guardian) via Rotten Tomatoes reference a love triangle. Well, there simply isn't one. There is more romance compared to the book, however it's no Hunger Games and is essentially the C-plot.

3. A large part of the movie is in B&W unlike the trailers imply.

4. It's an appropriately tight 90 minutes. Just like Katie Holmes' ass.

I will not say it's the ultimate adaptation the book deserves, but it still gets the job done well. Would recommend.

Totally agree. I think they did a great job adapting the book and adding to the world Lowry established.
 
It's not a surprise to see Sin City so low. The previews and trailers made it look baaaaad. And guess what? It was bad. And strangely enough as a big fan of of the first one I wasn't bothered by that. Word of mouth, bad reviews, ten years to come out and none of the trailers looked good at all? It was always going to fail, sadly.
 

aerts1js

Member
I disagree; The Giver wasn't TERRIBLE but felt unfinished and was largely forgettable. I haven't read the book so I don't know how close it matches..but the journey to the mountain took like 5 minutes in the movie and felt just TOO far fetched carrying
the baby
all that way.
 

Dram

Member
Question to those who read and saw The Giver. It's been awhile since I read the book, but was their society always that technologically advanced? The trailer had motorcycles and planes and I don't remember any of that from the book.
 

ahoyle77

Member
That BOM list is kinda weird though, I understand not counting IM1, Thor and Ep1, but it's for some reason not counting his role in Jurassic Park or Ep2 which is quite strange to me.

I think a better list would only count movies that the actor was a lead or co-lead in. That would eliminate Sam Jackson from a list like this, at it would eliminate all the Star Wars and almost all the Marvel films (I'd give him credit for Winter Soldier). Its not a fair comparison to have actors like Morgan Freeman compared to Tom Cruise in lists like this, as Cruise is almost always the draw.
 

MDSLKTR

Member
I enjoyed sin city and the theater was fairly crowded on a cheapy tuesday. Hope it does well on dvd and bluray sales
 
I disagree; The Giver wasn't TERRIBLE but felt unfinished and was largely forgettable. I haven't read the book so I don't know how close it matches..but the journey to the mountain took like 5 minutes in the movie and felt just TOO far fetched carrying
the baby
all that way.

I agree the end was the weakest point in the movie. The illogical choice to send
Asher
alone was a head scratcher. It was done to create a better arc for that character, but I think it failed in the end. Considering the fantasy setting, the implausible journey was never my nit, however.
 
Question to those who read and saw The Giver. It's been awhile since I read the book, but was their society always that technologically advanced? The trailer had motorcycles and planes and I don't remember any of that from the book.

From the POV as someone who doesn't demand perfect interpretation of books when brought over, the movie does depict a more technologically advanced society than I imagined when reading - however the changes are not a betrayal of the book's setting.

I'm not calling The Giver a stroke of genius, but it deserves defense as the trailers and marketing really misrepresented this movie, with a focus on action and future technology. The bikes are still there, however a motorcycle is used in the
end chase scene
. Injections are used vs pills, hovercraft make an appearance, and people communicate periodically via hologram. These are featured, but not focused on in a 'gadgetry porn' type of fashion - ala iRobot, Minority Report, etc.
 
Samuel Jackson is gonna be the all-time top grossing actor after the Avengers releases next year. He has a bunch of movies coming up, too. It doesn't say much given how many movies he does, but it will be a feat nonetheless.

From BoxOfficeMojo.com

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Disneys hands are on so many of these movies/actors it's insane.
 

kswiston

Member
Guardians of the Galaxy passed $500M worldwide yesterday.

It will become the highest grossing domestic film of the year on Friday.
 
Guardians of the Galaxy passed $500M worldwide yesterday.

It will become the highest grossing domestic film of the year on Friday.

What's your take on GOTG's ROTW performance? Does it still have a lot of markets to open in or was there perhaps not much of a marketing push or something? ROTW seems low for it
 
The wife and I saw The Giver last weekend. Based on reviews and being fans of the book, we anticipated it would make for good dinner/wine conversation to rip it apart. However, after the movie ended, we looked at each other and simultaneously said, "You know, I actually really enjoyed that."

1. Jeff Bridges as the Giver is great casting.

2. Several major reviews (Slate/The Guardian) via Rotten Tomatoes reference a love triangle. Well, there simply isn't one. There is more romance compared to the book, however it's no Hunger Games and is essentially the C-plot.

3. A large part of the movie is in B&W unlike the trailers imply.

4. It's an appropriately tight 90 minutes. Just like Katie Holmes' ass.

I will not say it's the ultimate adaptation the book deserves, but it still gets the job done well. Would recommend.

I look forward to this movie when it hits netflix
 
What's your take on GOTG's ROTW performance? Does it still have a lot of markets to open in or was there perhaps not much of a marketing push or something? ROTW seems low for it

GOTG has yet to open in Germany, Italy, Japan, and China...all key markets for International box office grosses.

Release dates:

Austria - 28 August 2014
Germany - 28 August 2014
Greece - 4 September 2014
Bangladesh - 5 September 2014
Cyprus - 5 September 2014
Japan - 13 September 2014
China - 10 October 2014
Switzerland - 22 October 2014 (Italian speaking region)
Italy - 22 October 2014
 

kswiston

Member
What's your take on GOTG's ROTW performance? Does it still have a lot of markets to open in or was there perhaps not much of a marketing push or something? ROTW seems low for it

It doesn't have a ton of overseas openings left, but Germany, Italy, Japan, and the smaller European countries are probably good for at least $25M. Holdover business is good for at least another $30M based on last weekend's $20M international gross. That gives you $300M overseas before China. I have no idea how the film will do in China, but $50M is probably a conservative estimate, bringing the total to $350M overseas. If China blows up, than you could see upwards of $400M overseas.

With the projected domestic gross, we are probably looking at $650-700M worldwide for Guardians. In the same neighbourhood as Man of Steel, with roughly the same Domestic vs Overseas split.
 

kswiston

Member
Thanks. It's always nice to hear others take on it.

Being a non-sequel, I don't think the domestic/overseas split is that unusual. GOTG 2 will likely get a big overseas boost like any well received blockbuster what skewed domestic the first time around.

Also, considering most of us were expecting a $400-500M gross a few months back, I think Disney will be more than happy with this start. It will be the highest grossing MCU debut film to date.
 
Samuel Jackson is gonna be the all-time top grossing actor after the Avengers releases next year. He has a bunch of movies coming up, too. It doesn't say much given how many movies he does, but it will be a feat nonetheless.

From BoxOfficeMojo.com

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I am surprised that Tom Cruise biggest domestic movie is WOTW.
 
Guardians of the Galaxy passed $500M worldwide yesterday.

It will become the highest grossing domestic film of the year on Friday.

That's what I'm waiting for before I do another Guardians of the Box Office Update.

and for those wondering Guardians is ~$28M ahead of Cap 2 and ~$4.6M behind IM1 right now.
It's also ~$2.5M away from replacing The LEGO Movie as the #2 Highest Domestic Grosser of the year, which would then put it ~$2M more away from the #1 spot for the year. Friday is definitely the day it should happen.
 

kswiston

Member
Guardians fell a few million behind Iron Man due to Iron Man's fourth weekend being Memorial Day weekend. However, it is back to making more during the week, and will likely make up some of the lost ground this weekend due to Labor Day weekend. I think that Guardians will eventually start to fall behind, but as long as it stays within $18M of Iron Man 1, it will hit that $300M mark.
 
Guardians fell a few million behind Iron Man due to Iron Man's fourth weekend being Memorial Day weekend. However, it is back to making more during the week, and will likely make up some of the lost ground this weekend due to Labor Day weekend. I think that Guardians will eventually start to fall behind, but as long as it stays within $18M of Iron Man 1, it will hit that $300M mark.

I was wondering why IM1 had that huge spike that Monday, figured that must have been a holiday. and I did not realize that this Monday was Labor day.... nice. Maybe Guardians can take that lead back on IM1 afterall.

How is GotG tracking against Cap2? I remember seeing a chart of this year's big movies and their weekly numbers.

Look 2 post above yours. if you really want, I can chart it for you, but since no positions moved since the last one, I was going to wait till friday.
 
How is GotG tracking against Cap2? I remember seeing a chart of this year's big movies and their weekly numbers.

GOTG Domestic Week 4 LTD:

$251,456,069


Cap 2 Domestic Week 4 LTD:

$225,059,241




GOTG International Week 4 LTD:

$237,600,000


Cap 2 International Week 4 LTD:

$385,100,000



GOTG is more staggered internationally, though.
 

Road

Member
GOTG International Week 4 LTD:

$237,600,000


Cap 2 International Week 4 LTD:

$385,100,000



GOTG is more staggered internationally, though.

If we exclude China, Japan, Germany and Italy from Cap 2, the number drops to $264 million.

GoTG being at $238 million, it is behind only 10% in the same international territories.

Obviously, it doesn't mean it will finish 10% below Cap 2 foreign total in the end.
 

kswiston

Member
The November Man is a flop, and As Above/So Below had a Thursday preview that was about the same as Sin City last week (though it should do better over the weekend not being a sequel). As such, Guardians will likely take the weekend again.
 

BLACKLAC

Member
The November Man is a flop, and As Above/So Below had a Thursday preview that was about the same as Sin City last week (though it should do better over the weekend not being a sequel). As such, Guardians will likely take the weekend again.

Daaammmnnnn.
 

Road

Member
It will be interesting to see how will GOTG do in China.

But before GOTG in China, we have Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.

Based on early first day numbers, the movie can be another $100 million grosser there.

Worse case scenario in China and with Japan still left to open, Apes is pretty much guaranteed $650 million worldwide in the end.


And X-Men Days of Future Past is getting a Labor Day expansion this weekend. All you Americans are thereby obligated to watch it at least twice this weekend so it overtake X3 The Last Stand as the highest grossing in NA.
 
Another Guardians of the Box Office Update: The $300M Domestic March to #1 Movie of the Summer/Year

this is a launch aligned comparison, so that you can see how the movie is doing.

[Movie: Daily - Domestic Gross / # of Days (Total Domestic / WW Gross)]
GotG: $1,562,456 - $258,297,268 / 28 ($258,297,268 / $503,597,268)
Cap 2: $851,344 - $229,381,211 / 28 ($259,746,958 / $714,063,958)
IM 1: $1,389,865 - $262,625,072 / 28 ($318,412,101 / $585,174,222)

Current Domestic Top 5 of 2014 (as of Thursday Totals)
[#. Movie: (Domestic Gross / WW Gross)]
1. Cap 2: ($259,746,958 / $714,063,958)
2. GotG: ($258,297,268 / $503,597,268)
3. LEGO Movie: ($257,748,132 / $468,048,132)
4. Transformers: ($243,950,966 / $1,065,250,966)
5. Maleficent: ( $237,841,302 / $747,841,302)
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6. X-Men: DOFP: ($232,814,528 / $744,938,694)
7. Dawn/Apes: ($204,419,991 / $555,404,991)

Guardians become the #1 Domestic Grosser of the Year today, but we won't see those numbers till tomorrow.
The question now is, will it continue to have enough legs to cross that $300M mark? can it keep up with IM1?
 
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